Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Support' started by Teresa1958, Dec 1, 2014.

    1. Teresa1958
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      Teresa1958 Member

      Location:
      Alberta, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/06/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      stress/uncertain
      Has anyone tried Alpha-Lipoic Acid for their tinnitus? Does it work to bring the volume down? How much to take?

      Thanks.
       
    2. jimH
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      jimH Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      30 years+
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      I've been taking it for years. Only because it's supposed to be a powerful anti-oxidant. I currently take 100 mg. I've also used several different brands. It's never had any effect on my tinnitus.
       
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    3. Yowzerman
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      Yowzerman Member

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      01-2014
      I also take it daily, 150-300 mg. No noticeable effect on my tinnitus.
       
    4. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      If you decide to take ALA, you may want to take it on an empty stomach. The directions on the ALA container don't mention this.

      "Gastrointestinal absorption is variable and decreases with the use of food. It is therefore recommended that dietary LA be taken 30–60 minutes before or at least 120 minutes after a meal."
       
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    5. David S

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    6. Óscar PP
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      Óscar PP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Coronavirus
      Snake oil I believe.
       
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    7. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      ALA is one of the most powerful anti-inflammatories. I wouldn’t say it’s snake oil as much as it is good nutrition. It’s a double blind, placebo controlled study.
       
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    8. Óscar PP
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      Óscar PP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Coronavirus
      But is ALA any good for tinnitus?
       
    9. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

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      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      Dude, read the study.
       
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    10. David S

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      I will try it for some weeks. I will add a multivitamin and Vitamin D.

      I will report back.
       
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    11. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      I took a lot for a long time and I all got was a wallet ache.

      Ditto Taurine and most other proteins etc that come up in tinnitus whitepapers.
       
    12. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      karma
      70 patients, they found an average of -14 dB reduction in the antioxidant group, but also found a -6.7 dB reduction in the placebo group. This means that people in the placebo group, on average, reported that the placebo cut the subjective volume of their tinnitus by nearly half. (Sound energy doubles every 6db, perceived volume is closer to 10).

      Does anyone believe that taking a placebo would cut their tinnitus in half?

      It is worth noting that this study used 2x300 mg a day; another study I've seen which found no difference, only used 60 mg a day. So, if I was going to try this, I'd shoot for 300 mg a day, but I did try it and meh.

      This was several years ago, and I am a sucker for new whitepapers, so, I will do a trial using the study protocol here -- 300 mg on an empty stomach, twice a day, for a month. This will cost me $30 since I'll use Thorne, I trust their supplements.

      I will report back a month from Friday ;) My tinnitus is pretty well handled by other drugs at the moment but I would still definitely notice a significant reduction in volume or pitch.
       
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    13. juliob
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      juliob Member

      Location:
      Brazil
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Antidepressants / Loud Sound Exposure
      Is ALA safe to take? I've read that due to its chelation properties it can really cause problems.

      How should I take it? Is it safe to take daily?

      I am on some meds (Luvox, Pregabalin, Valium) and I wonder if ALa is still safe to take.
       
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    14. tpj
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      tpj Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      probably noise
      How are you going with the Luvox?
       
    15. juliob
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      juliob Member

      Location:
      Brazil
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      03/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Antidepressants / Loud Sound Exposure
      Still didn't find my sweet spot for OCD, but I guess my tinnitus is the same in general with the exception if/when I wake up in the middle of the night it is clearly louder to me.

      I wonder if it's due to taking it before sleeping or due to the sleep interruption by itself.
       
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    16. tpj
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      tpj Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Are you going to keep taking it?
       
    17. juliob
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      juliob Member

      Location:
      Brazil
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      03/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Antidepressants / Loud Sound Exposure
      Yes. I have no options to treat OCD despite SSRIs I guess. My doctor doesn't want to prescribe Riluzole to me.

      I am going to updose slowly and see if there is any influence of Luvox on it.

      EDIT: I am more than 10 weeks on my current dosage. I quick tapered off from Zoloft so I have a confounding factor I guess.
       
    18. Lane

      Lane Member Hall of Fame

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      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
      Hi @juliob -- i would respectfully disagree. Although I don't have OCD myself, I've discovered a supplement called Inositol that helps me a lot. It can have a remarkably calming influence on the brain, and is often prescribed by non-conventional health care practitioners for OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). Here's a link to a pretty amazing article on how it became clear it could successfully treat OCD. -- LISTENING TO INOSITOL: CLINICAL NOTES
       
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    19. DebInAustralia
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      12/2013
      How'd you go with ALA?
       
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    20. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Maybe it does something?

      If so, it's pretty minimal.
       
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    21. David S

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    22. DebInAustralia
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      Does this quieten tinnitus?
       
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    23. Nick47

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      2015
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      Viral/noise
      I started 3 days ago. You should look to replicate the study, which includes using pharmaceutical grade supplements, that are exact matches, from the same company that donated them for the study.

      That company is Lamberts in the UK. The vitamin and mineral supplement is the over 50s one.

      Also, although a good study, it had a moderate size group (63 participants after dropouts) with many exclusions such as acoustic trauma, sudden hearing loss and Meniere's.
       
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    24. Óscar PP
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      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Coronavirus
      I tried it, it did nothing.
       
    25. Nick47

      Nick47 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      UK
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      2015
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      Viral/noise
      @Óscar PP, did you use the supplements from Lamberts?

      Did you take 300 mg x2 day on an empty stomach?

      Did you use the same multivitamin and mineral formulation used in the study?

      It may make no difference to you, however, for point of trying to replicate the results, you must replicate the method.
       
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    26. lymebite
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      2013
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    27. Óscar PP
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      Óscar PP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Coronavirus
      No, I took the one from Source Naturals, 300 mg, timed release. One pill a day with lunch for 30 days.
       
    28. AChapinHealth

      AChapinHealth Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stimulant use/Brain tumor
      I tried Alpha Lipoic Acid. It changed my life immediately and moderately for the better. Tinnitus went from a daily 5/10 buzz to a hissing sound. Trying desperately to understand exactly what it is doing so I can hopefully increase the positive effect.
       
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    29. yeezysqueezy

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      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TBI? + concerts + naproxen
      ALA is used very successfully for things like diabetic neuropathy. My mom uses it for neuropathy in her feet from a spine surgery that probably hit some things it wasn't supposed to and it's been great for her. I've always wondered if it could be helpful if you have any auditory neuropathy going on.
       
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    30. Tim123

      Tim123 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I used ALA for 2 months, 1 tablet every 2 days, and it didn't do anything for me.
       
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