I like you a lot @Watasha , but come on man;) Social Democracy cannot be equated to Soviet Communism. It's actually considered pretty moderate in Western Europe and from a historical perspective made live generally better for many people & increased social mobility. Creating that promised ''City on a Hill'' has so far not been a success
under Republican administration, e.g. promising jobs with no future (''Trump digs coal''), trickle down economics (only enriched the rich), union busting policies (to negotiate an appropriate living wage so that everyone can live with dignity). The American working class deserves better, don't you think:)
@Tanni Nina is practically one of the old-school Social Democrats who firmly believes in solidarity for all and not a typical career politician who only says things if it has been focus-group approved, if you know what I mean;) Anyway, do you mean that Labour candidates are too posh or out of step with their electorate?
@Christiaan I do know what you mean :) That's a pretty rare breed of politician, especially on the left!
In my opinion: Out of step, and just pretty weak. They're floundering about, haemorrhaging support all over the place. Corbyn was a strong, socialist candidate but they ousted him from the party because they thought their base wanted them to go in a more central/moderate direction.
That, so far, has turned out to be wrong. So now they are completely directionless, unable to tell what their base actually wants. Many people despised Corbyn, but at least he had strong values that weren't swayed by opinion polls etc. I don't know what the current Labour leadership stands for.
@Tanni It's indeed a shame that Labour has not shown effective opposition so far. It is actually quite telling that a famous footballer managed to convince the Tories to keep providing free school meals to children living in poverty or that Neville gained relatively more news coverage for his sharp remarks about BoJo's culture wars (e.g. ''taking the knee'')
than anyone from Labour. With the recent shake-up in Starmer's office, time will tell if they have learned their mistakes after the fall of the Red Wall. I don't know if you share the same idea, but I think it's a huge loss that they've sacrificed Angela Rayner after the Hartlepool loss. She seems to be more aligned to the (former)
traditional working class heartlands in England and has personal qualities that would make her a great leader some day. But for now, it seems that Blairite, London-centric centrists have won the war within the party
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