Alternatives to Melatonin?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Jacob83, Sep 11, 2016.

    1. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      I don't have a problem falling asleep, I have a problem staying asleep and melatonin works great for that for me. The problem is melatonin gives me vivid nightmares without fail.

      Any suggestions? No benzos please.
       
    2. volsung37

      volsung37 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Phenergan (promethazine), mirtazapine (Remeron). I do take a temazepan once a week also.
       
    3. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise..no idea.. unicorns?
      Valerian Root
      Agar 35
      Magnolia Bark
       
    4. undecided
      Fine

      undecided Member

      Location:
      Greece
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown.
      - Valdoxan (a melatonin receptor agonist, not melatonin in itself).
      - Passion flower.
       
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    5. billie48
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      billie48 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
      Canada
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      03/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not sure
    6. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      thanks for the suggestions :)
       
    7. JasonP
      No Mood

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Hey, can I ask how much melatonin you were taking?
       
    8. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      5 mg. I've taken it on and off throughout the years and it's always the same effect. Sometimes I wonder if I took it everyday the vivid dreams would subside, but I don't want to try and find out.
       
    9. JasonP
      No Mood

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      I think 5 mg is way too much.... you might want to try .5mg and if that doesn't work maybe try 1mg. I wouldn't take it everyday though. It is possible that the dose is too high and that is why you are having very vivid dreams.

      Sometimes I will take .5mg to .75 mg and I have no vivid dreams but it usually helps me get to sleep.
       
    10. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      East Coast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1998
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      an alternative to consider is learning how to lucid dream and tackling this that way. I've learned to mostly enjoy melatonin nightmares. In fact, vivid dreams are the main reason I still take it sometimes...
       
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    11. Tamalak
      Volatile

      Tamalak Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      3/2011
      Vivid nightmares every time? I'm jealous. Love all intense dreams, even scary ones.
       
    12. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      I'm trying chamomile tea tonight. Hope it works.

      @linearb, I've pulled off a lucid dream once with melatonin and it was pretty fun. The dream that inspired this thread was pretty close to a lucid dream and may borderline have been. I won't write the whole story, but in the end I was drowning in a flipped bus in a lake, and when the water was up to my neck my last words were, "Ok, wake up!" and there I was laying terrifed in bed.
       
    13. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      I have very vivid dreams on the stuff. 3mg nightly. I don't mind it at all.

      Try half a Benadryl (25mg). It's much more boring but worse hangover
       
    14. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      Just wanted to post an update that I've had success with chamomile tea. Tastes great, too, especially with a splash of honey. I should have tried drinking it years ago.

      The bright side to those melatonin nightmares at least is that tinnitus doesn't exist in dreams. So even in the worst nightmare, you get to experience the silence again. Pretty cool, but I'll stay away...
       
    15. Stephen1144

      Stephen1144 Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1994
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      gun noise
      Hi Jacob - Thank you for the update. I posted a new thread about my experience with Melatonin.

      Question to you and all the members - Did the chamomile tea or any of the other mentioned substances have any effect on your tinnitus?

      Thanks again!
       
    16. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      @Stephen1144 , neither melatonin nor chamomile had an effect on my tinnitus.
       
    17. glynis
      Feminine

      glynis Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Nortryptaline 50mg works well for me.
      Melatonin wasn't strong enough...lots of love glynis
       
    18. Stephen1144

      Stephen1144 Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1994
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      gun noise
      Thanks Jacob for the reply.
       
    19. Stephen1144

      Stephen1144 Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1994
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      gun noise
      Thanks Glynis for the reply.

      I'll check out that Nortryptaline. My guess with this tinnitus thing, is that we are all 99.999999 percent alike, but that small DNA difference might mean the difference with something as baffling as tinnitus. So i'm beginning to understand that there likely isn't going to be a "one size fits all" solution to this thing. It's going to take some experimentation to find the best results. But the guidance from the good members in this forum certainly leads us into a good direction, and hopefully one day the right direction for us as individuals.

      If that made any sense? :)
       
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    20. Stephen1144

      Stephen1144 Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1994
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      gun noise
      Well, the moderator deleted my thread for some inexplicable reason. This will be my final post on this forum. Tinnitus is a big enough problem without getting helpful threads deleted, and being aggravated putting over an hour of time into writing it to help myself and help others. I mean tinnitus is aggravating enough, right?

      Goodbye...and best wishes and best of luck to everyone.
       
    21. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

      Location:
      Wisconsin
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud headphones
      @Stephen1144 , sorry to hear that. I did look for your thread but didn't see it. I've seen other compaints here about threads being deleted or renamed. Moderators are probably having a bad T day :) Good luck to you as well. There's more tinnitus boards out there, so don't feel discouraged to reach out if you feel the need
       
    22. glynis
      Feminine

      glynis Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      @Stephen1144 ,
      It may have been moved to another place if has a post already covering the same topic.
      I'm sure you would have been told why by PM.
      Not read your post ...lots of love glynis
       
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    23. fishbone
      Shitfaced

      fishbone Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud noise and very bad sickness
      Melatonin is natural and doesn't have the side effects, many other pills have. I take that each day and I sleep well. I rarely get nightmares, just get a good sleep.

      Other pills can bring on strong addictions and some horrible side effects....
       
    24. Coyotesheaven
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      Coyotesheaven Member

      Location:
      Utah
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/18/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Vascular
      Yes, Zquil or benadryl. Don't take it every day because you will encounter problems down the road. But you should try to avoid prescription drugs because they are even worse.
      Chamomile tea might also be good to get you really relaxed at bed time.

      Most importantly, if you can avoid blue light from electronics the minutes before you fall asleep.
       

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