Are YouTube Hearing Tests Reliable?

Discussion in 'Support' started by RonnieCarzatto, Jul 23, 2017.

    1. RonnieCarzatto
      Cynical

      RonnieCarzatto Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb 01 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild head injury maybe... but who knows...
      Specifically this one:

      *Just warning, it produces some loud tones, if you click on the link, make sure volume is way low!*

      Was thinking recently about Hidden Hearing Loss. I clicked on the above link while browsing around the internet, as the knowledge I've learned from here that audiologists and ENTs only test up to 8khz was really bothering me.

      If there are any experts on the subject or anyone with a good knowledge, are the above tests as reliable as one conducted at a hearing test centre?
       
    2. Paul10

      Paul10 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress
      As far I know, YouTube only allows audio that goes up to 15,000 Hz; so anything over that you won't hear regardless. I think there's hearing tests you can get done professionally that go quiet high but they'd probably take a bit of searching to find. Hope you're doing well Ronnie!
       
    3. Tinker Bell

      Tinker Bell Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL from virus
      I don't think they're accurate. I score better on any online tests than I do on the actual tests performed by audiologists.
       
    4. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise or maybe... unicorns!
      I've found most of the tests kinda garbage online and through apps. Best to find a good audiologist that will test past 8,000hz.
       
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      RonnieCarzatto
      Cynical

      RonnieCarzatto Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb 01 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild head injury maybe... but who knows...
      I'll keep searching then. Unfortunately most audiologists and ENTs around my area only test up to 8k. Thanks y'all.

      @Paul10 Was doing well but had a bunch of random spikes that set me back. Still hangin' in there.
       
    6. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise or maybe... unicorns!
      I had the same problem. I spent half the day on the phone ringing around trying to find one!
       
    7. Rubenslash

      Rubenslash Member

      Location:
      Brussels
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several
      Please read about the definition of hidden hearing loss. You want to test is your high frequency hearing treshold, which is something else.
       
    8. AUTHOR
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      RonnieCarzatto
      Cynical

      RonnieCarzatto Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb 01 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild head injury maybe... but who knows...
      @Rubenslash
      Well the only definition I have been given is from various posts on this forum. I mention that every audiologist I have seen, three so far, tells me I have great hearing.

      Then I am told my tinnitus is probably caused by hidden hearing loss and the only thing mentioned is that most audiologists only test up to 8khz. I'm told people with hidden hearing loss cannot differentiate speech in a noisy environment, but I can no problem. This is all I have been told about the matter, well that and my ENTs dismissed this "fewr mongering theory" (his words, not mine). So I'm trying to get to the bottom of this but options are very limited where I reside.

      If I am missing something then please enlighten me because I am trying to find out what is causing my tinnitus since nobody in the medical community can give me a straight answer and all I am told online with the evidence presented is "hidden hearing loss", and all I have been told about that is to grt my hearing tested past the speech range and the aforementioned noisy environment example.... yet I don't seem to fit the bill...
       
    9. missingsilence
      Depressed

      missingsilence Member

      Location:
      Hell on Earth
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Who am I kidding, its got to be noise :/
      YouTube does weird compression magic and keep in mind that your speaker or headphones will likely not be calibrated or have a flat frequency response. It is unlikely that it will be accurate. You could try a frequency generator and audiophile grade headphones with a flat frequency response that goes to 20khz, but measuring the volume levels and thresholds will be difficult.
       
    10. cspc
      Studious

      cspc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      My ENT told me that I may have hidden hearing loss due to acoustic trauma. The standard test they do is up to 8Khz.

      You don't have trouble to understand speech in noisy environments because either the person you are talking because only one of ears has greater hidden hearing loss than the other. My hearing is normal (0-20db) in the standard test but I find myself struggling to understand speech in a noisy environment and I usually turn my "good ear" towards the person that is talking.
       
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    11. cspc
      Studious

      cspc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I do not trust youtube hearing tests. I have tried some of them but I believe that they might do more harm than good. e.g very low and very high frequency tones must be listened at extremely low volume.

      Also, I don't recommend listening music with headphones. In windows 10, when you plug in your headphones or change volume and even sometimes when you just hit play on windows media player or youtube, a static electrical current develops which sounds like loud white noise 8Khz (masks my T by far), it's fairly audible, fairly loud above the music, even with system volume 2-3 and windows media player volume 8.
       
    12. Ed209

      Ed209 Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2015
      The problem with doing audiograms yourself is calibration. You ideally need a set of balanced headphones, with a flat response, so that all frequencies are represented equally and accurately. And the same applies for the source of the sound.

      You also have to be sure that you are really ‘hearing’ the sounds at the lowest decibel levels because it’s easy to have auditory hallucinations at such quiet levels. Audiologists confirm the accuracy of different frequencies by revisiting them to verify the measurement. You can’t do this if you’re on your own. There’s an app called mimi which is probably the closest you’ll get.
       
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    13. Jordyn
      Angelic

      Jordyn Member

      Location:
      Ontario
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 10/17 - in remission, late July/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown - possibly earphones.
      do you use headphones? i have all the same symptoms and non symptoms as you. I am pretty sure it was from ear buds but the good news is that it went almost completely away as of now.... the bad news is that i can never use those buds again. my GP was confident it would go away.


       
    14. 1MW
      No Mood

      1MW Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008 but cured and relapsed from benzos
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ssnhl/benzos/unknown
      If you know how to make the test it is reliable as screening test and some cases more reliable than standard audiometry up to 8khz.
      To do the test you need good headphones & a healthy 18 years old person with good hearing without T to compare hearing with yours.18 years old with good hearing will be able to hear about up to 17-24khz.
      I bought audiometer machine to test my hearing every day because i have observed that T has correlation with
      hearing thresholds.I have observed that 1-3dB hearing reduction cause or worsen T.
      The hearing is never stable there are temporary thresholds and permanent thresholds.
      Most ENTs say that 10-15dB loss is normal hearing the truth is that it is NOT normal.
      normal is from +5dB to -5dB
       
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    15. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      Same Same
       
    16. Yoshi
      Wishful

      Yoshi Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Earphones, Sensitive Ears
      Absolutely not. My speakers fail to produce anything lower than 250 Hz and anything higher than 15,000 Hz. When I asked the audiologist to test 125 Hz it came up as normal. If you want reasonably accurate results you're going to have to find an audiologist that tests above 8,000 Hz.
       

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