For All You Habituated Veterans

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    1. Sailboardman
      Frustrated

      Sailboardman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sensorineural hearing loss right ear.
      Here's some questions for all you habituated veterans, that my help us newbies.

      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room
      or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?

      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?

      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?
       
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    2. conbsgc

      conbsgc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      october
      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room
      or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?

      Sometimes at night I hear it but it doesn't affect me, sort of how the sound of your own breathing doesn't affect you at night, you hear it and you don't process thought into it, its just a sound.

      I only hear tinnitus if I look for it... before I realized that buzzing I would hear sometimes was tinnitus, I would barely pay attention to it whenever I heard it.
      When I did notice it, I thought it was static electricity in the atmosphere, or the sound of an electronic, or just silence meant to sound like this.

      Once I found out I had tinnitus thanks to the fucking internet, I freaked out and had anxiety and my tinnitus spiked and I couldn't sleep at night because it was disturbing and I was busy checking for it CONSTANTLY!!! every little fucking buzz, beep, tic would freak me out and send me into panic mode.... now I look back and think, MY GOD I WAS SUCH A FUCKING MORON!


      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?
      yes, when you habituate u don't hear tinnitus!!! you're hearing your tinnitus because YOU'RE CHECKING FOR IT!!! when you're not checking your tinnitus sort of vanishes in the background while you occupy your mind with other stuff! I feel normal, I even forget I have tinnitus 90% of the time.


      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?
      Habituation is not a magic trick that just happens, its not a "CLICK" that just occurs out of nowhere, you simply refocus your mind on other stuff and the tinnitus thoughts start to fade in the background until they completely lose relevance in your mind!! Sort of like how you get over about an old girlfriend, at first you obsess with her and cry, and panic and think your world is over, and as your mind becomes busy with other stuff, you sort of get over it and forget she even existed!!

      I started to FORCE my mind to think about something else, at first the obsessive tinnitus thoughts come back right away, but then u hit back with some other thought, like a ping pong game....

      DAY 1) I was playing ping pong with my mind.... 100 times probably I had to force myself to think something else, it was kinda hellish!

      DAY 2) I was still playing ping pong but I noticed I was starting to allow other thoughts to come in naturally, I would often check to see if this ping pong thing was working just to make sure and this would bring tinnitus thoughts back, so I would have to force my mind again.

      DAY 3) I was playing ping pong but probably 70% less than before!!! Tinnitus thoughts were back mostly when I would be in silence and then I would have to force my mind to think something else.

      DAY 4) I started to truly relax, 90% improvement

      DAY 5) I actually probably had to force my mind once the whole day.

      DAY 6) heard tinnitus in silence once but forced myself to move on

      DAY 7) I actually don't think I remember thinking about tinnituS

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?
      few days, the point is you HAVE to make your mind busy!!! my problem is that I have a sort of obsessive mind.

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?[/QUOTE]
      all of it is back, come on you didnt suffer a stroke that left you with cognitive loss or anything!!! I am like I always used to be, its just ringing in your ears and you don't even notice it, even in the silence of night I don't even notice it and I do I just go like oh yeah my old friend Tinnitus and then start thinking about other stuff naturally.


      I am alive, I dont wanna hear silence, I'll get to hear plenty of silence when I die!!!
       
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    3. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      Here's some questions for all you habituated veterans, that my help us newbies.

      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room
      or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?
      Still hear it....and I do not care anymore

      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?
      Yes no problem at all

      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?
      It was sudden ...just one day my brain said...enough of this and after that it went better and better

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?
      1.3 Years and still getting better

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?
      Not much at the moment still got an anxiety problem that stayed. I think it had build up with T and other issues. I'm working on that now, but T realy does not bother me anymore.
       
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    4. Valery

      Valery Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/01/1990
      1. Can still notice T when it's totally quiet, but it doesn't give me the anxiety it once did.
      2. TV, radio, music no problem.
      3. Habituation was gradual. T nearly drove me insane initially!
      4. Months. Though I don't think T fades, I think your attention to it fades.
      5. I would say that MOST (99%) of the time I don't notice T anymore, only when very quiet or I'm thinking about it (like now!). The biggest change in my life due to T is that I rarely have it totally quiet around me now. Have to have TV, radio or music playing, even softly, especially when I'm going to sleep. I miss being able to experience silence, but consider it a small price to pay for the relative peace I have now.

      I would just add that I do think stress and anxiety can make T worse. Habituation is really just accepting the fact that you have T and trying to move on. Try to keep your mind busy with other things as much as possible, to get it off of T. One day you will realize that you haven't noticed your T as much, and then it will start getting better.
       
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    5. Jesse Pinkman

      Jesse Pinkman Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2011
      Another question of interest I would add is: How bad, loud was your T before you habituated?
       
    6. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      VERY good responses here. Mine are mostly the same.
       
    7. Carlo
      Balanced

      Carlo Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2013
      Ok, I am not a veteran. Anyway:
      1- Yes. Doesn't bother me anymore
      2- Yes. I prefer watch TV wearing headphones (at low volume, helped me a lot)
      3- Gradually. I stopped checking obsessively T
      4- I'd say around 6-8 months
      5- 99 %. 1% is related to being careful taking not ototoxic medicines, protecting ears in loud places
       
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    8. Carlo
      Balanced

      Carlo Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2013
      The same
       
    9. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room
      or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?
      Still hear it....and I do not care anymore

      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?
      Yes no problem at all

      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?
      It was sudden ...just one day my brain said...enough of this and after that it went better and better

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?
      1.3 Years and still getting better

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?
      Not much at the moment still got an anxiety problem that stayed. I think it had build up with T and other issues. I'm working on that now, but T realy does not bother me anymore.

      6- How bad, loud was your T before you habituated?
      Could hear it over everything and my ears hurt like hell. They felt full , dull you name it.... on the loudness scale it was 9/10... after a while I thought it became less , but now I know it did not... when I stick my fingers in my ears it's still the same noise, but when I do not do that I hardly hear it because my mind seems not to care about it anymore. One thing that helped me was stop putting my fingers in my ears and stop coming here to often and go on with everyday life. I stopped talking about it to everybody otherwise I could not forget it. Somebody asked here how long you do not think about your T. I do not think about it anymore....only when I visit this site , but other than that not much. I don't want to give it energy otherwise it will become louder. But this goes for all thing that desturb you, The more thought you give it the harder it is to forget it. Even my hyperacusis became less ...I still have it though, but I do not think about it to much...when I cannot stand a sound I just do not care anymore and walk away from it but do not react as a caged monkey anymore.
      I did not became a happier person from all of it.....but more of a realist. First I planned everything...now I live day by day ......but I have a nice family that gives me energy so life ain't all that bad ;-)
       
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    10. MikeA
      Curious

      MikeA Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?
      Yes. Faucet masks, but I hear it now over a small floor heater with fan plus television. Not bothering me much these days. Probably contributes to a more stressful existence, but there are other thing in past and present which intrude into 'peace'.

      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?
      I often don't think about T at these and other times. Sometimes it will intrude. When it does I acknowledge that I've noticed it, and then move on. Similar to suggestions on how to deal with distractions during meditation.

      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?
      Gradual over a period of several months after a spike up early last year. I'd guess sudden is rare.

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?
      For 20 years rarely thought about it, except to put in earplugs. After an annoying several weeks early last year with insomnia, upset, etc, the loudness seemed to fade much and I readjusted. Took about 4-5 months to feel somewhat normal again (~7.5 hours sleep).

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?
      As a percent, hard to say. Much more than I'd expected. Let's say a 'statistically significant' proportion w/ better sleep; ability to concentrate; lower anxiety; sense of perspective.

      How bad, loud was your T before you habituated?
      Prior to spike, a 1-2 on 1-10 scale. Following first onset many years ago it took several months to adjust. For recent spike it seemed like a 6-7, noticeable sitting right next to a loud whirling white noise maker. But that sound lasted only a few weeks as sleep improved and anxiety lessened.
       
    11. billie48
      Sunshine

      billie48 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Research

      Location:
      Vancouver, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2009
      (Simulating RicoS' reply format above)

      1-Do you hear your T when in a quiet room
      or location? And does it bother you still, or do you have peace?
      Still hear it but it will be faded out of consciousness when I do something else like reading something. Yes, don't give a dime when I hear it though.

      2-Can you watch TV or listen to music without T intruding all the time?
      Yes no problem at all

      3-When you crossed the line from non-habituation to habituation, was it sudden or was it subtle? Or did you even notice the change?
      It was gradual, with many setbacks and ups & downs. Any time I learn to use a new skill/approch or hit a light bulb in thinking, I made leaps in improvement, like learning acceptance, willing to peacefully co-exist with T, learning the approach of 'finding joy amid the pain', the need to focus & live the moment positively instead of the future, learning CBT concept of cognitive distortions and how to counter them, learning to apply the analogy with people working with loud jobs, learning mindfulness meditation, etc.

      4-How long did it take to become habituated? Did your T just fade into the background and that was that?
      2 Years+ and then T just faded into the background when I am not paying attention to T or be mentioned of T like being here. Support for me can bring T back to focus and I can hear it screaming and resonating in my whole head as I am typing. But I just don't care about it and it will fade out of consciousness once I am watching the NFL playoff games, LOL.

      5-What % of your life, did you really get back?
      99.9% or more, I can do anything I used to do and enjoy and T makes me treasure the joy of redoing those things more. I don't know if there is anything 100% with T, lol, but T makes me aware that bad things can hit you and cripple your life in a short time, so I do try to travel more since T (like Aaron) and treasure the time with family and love ones.

      6. How loud was your T before you habituated?
      It is an ultra high pitch dog whistle with such condensed energy like a laser beam in a night sky. It can cut through anything and it can still be heard above jet noise, river rapids etc recently. I won't say mine is the most severe form, but when I played a video matching my dog whistle T to my family, they all screamed instantly, cover their ears and ran away, LOL. This T (and H too) used to overwhelm me and turn me into a mess but no longer. My brain is now hardened to this high pitch scream and it just won't react as if it is accepted as part of my being. Time,acceptance and positivity perhaps have rewired the neural path way somehow.
       
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    12. Mark McDill
      Curious

      Mark McDill Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Papillion, NE
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Likely stress, anxiety, an antibiotic and nsaids

      Sailboardman
      Good questions.

      I can hear my T over everything almost all the time; but that doesn't mean I pay attention to it. In fact, when I'm busy doing just about anything my T doesn't really register with me. When in a quiet room I can easily make the common error of paying attention to it; but even then it doesn't really bother me that much

      Yes, I can do anything I want and it no longer intrudes (and by 'intrude' I mean how it affects my focus, mood, etc.)

      Relatively sudden; in other words I had basically habituated but I didn't realize it until about a week or two had gone by.

      It took me most of a year to habituate -- no, T (at least my T) will never fade into the background; although I get quiet days (thank God)

      100% (with common sense adjustments); I do anything I want to, anytime I want to but I pay attention to my ears


      I gather (or derive) from your questions you are asking about the nature of habituation; it is simply the point you reach when you no longer react to your T. Once in that state, you can do pretty much anything you want to do (protecting your ears, of course) and T no longer affects your mood or steals your focus. For instance, I still run with ear buds on but not excessively loud, I play racquetball with ear plugs in, etc.

      Oddly enough, I habituated shortly after a really bad (long) spike. I guess I just got sick of reacting to it and, frankly, bored of the whole topic and I stopped reacting to it. It was not so much a choice (singularly), but a choice available to me at a certain time in the process -- and I chose to no longer react.

      Of course, the idea of T still bugs me (I'll never like it) but T is no longer the boss of me.

      Mark
       
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    13. Sailboardman
      Frustrated

      Sailboardman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sensorineural hearing loss right ear.
      Thanks mark. Yes I'm trying to habituate to my T. It's going on 9 months and I still have difficulties accepting it. It still controls me and not the other way around. I do understand it's a long process but want to get there faster, with knowledge from you veterans.

      Thanks for your response!

      Sailboardman
       
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    14. I who love music
      Cheerful

      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      1- Total peace.
      2- Yes
      3- After 40 years of loud T, I noticed the change alright.
      4- My habituation took a couple weeks, which to me was sudden.
      5- Got it ALL back.

      I didn't invent this, I just did it ... https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/back-to-silence.7172/
       
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    15. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      East Coast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1998
      I don't claim to be 100% habituated, but I call myself a definite veteran of this condition, haha.

      Of course I hear it if I think about it. When I'm doing well and am managing my stress/health, I don't actually think about it very much; I spend a lot of time sitting in very quiet rooms reading and working and stuff like that. I definitely have awareness of it float in and out of my consciousness, but on some level that's not very much different than being aware of hunger, or that my toes are slightly too cold, or any other homeostatic quirk.

      I watch a reasonable amount of TV and play video games; overall my awareness of my T will flit through my mind sometimes, but once again this is similar to any other distracting thought (again, barring times of severe anxiety/depression, which predate my tinnitus by a decade).

      I go through cycles of anxiety/sleep disruption/etc. When my mental health is overall impaired, then tinnitus is much more challenging than when I'm in a good state of mind. As before, I don't attribute that anxiety to tinnitus per se, as my history with challenging anxiety states is very long indeed.

      I would say that it fades in and out of my background awareness, again, based on how well I am managing my stress (and how much distress I'm in as a result of other, unrelated medical problems).

      That's sort of hard to put a number on. I don't go to industrial rock concerts, get staggeringly drunk or consume recreational stimulants harder than caffeine anymore, and that's all dumb stuff I did a a fair amount of in my teens/20s. Tinnitus was the thing that put a hard stop to a lot of that, but, some of it is also growing up.

      In terms of things that matter to me now, I'd say 80% or more. I don't really go to concerts anymore, but I go for hikes and go to work and hang out with my wife and friends and have lots of hobbies. I ride a motorcycle.
       
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