Gone for a Few Days... Back with Anxiety

Discussion in 'Support' started by Natalie Roberts, Dec 5, 2015.

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    1. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I stayed off this site for 2 days, mainly because I was trying not to draw attention to my T and "get on with my life" as my psychotherapist advised.. The last two days the volume of my T was very low almost inaudible and I was in fact able to "Get on with my life" without even being bothered by the noise. I wonder if its possible the noise is actually decreasing or if my reactions to it are decreasing? I'm about 7 weeks in. Is it even possible to be habituating this early?

      Then, out of nowhere last night my ears became super sensitive to sound. Even my own voice was too loud.. The TV volume turned very low caused my ears to react and the T was very loud.. I finally gave up and just went to bed because the anxiety was too much.. It continued ALL night and I didn't sleep at all because of the loud static sound, even with the sound machine.. This morning, so far it seems just as loud and I can feel the panic start to try and force its way back into my head.. I'm so frustrated. THe good days are really, really good and give me hope that I am seeing improvements and I am able to live a normal life again then BAM, out of nowhere the T rears its ugly head and is back with no warning. It's hard to accept this may be my life now. I'm desperately hoping its not the case.. My T seems to have a pattern of gone/drastically improved for 1-2 days then back to being intrusive for a day or so, then better for 1-2 and back for 1, etc..So far, other then stress I haven't been able to find any triggers but have been avoiding high sodium, caffiene and excessive sugar..

      My perinatologist suggested again, everything can resolve after pregnancy and hearing is often affected by it so to just try and ride it out and get a new audiogram after everything is over. Grasping those words desperatly this morning. Just had a bad night and needed some positive support to ride this one out. :cry:
       
    2. Gosia
      Balanced

      Gosia Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      earplugs/ hearing loss
      I can only write I understand you very well and that it also happens to me a lot. Some people have it stable all the time and others will have spooky spikes out of nowhere like you just described and can never be sure if today the night will be ok or it will spike again. Only in your case you have a high chance it will be better after pregnancy :)
       
    3. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Hi Natalie,
      Tinnitus does this for a lot of people as you have found out for your sound.
      I hope when your hormones settle after your little one is born that your ears settle too.
      Make the most of your good days and rest when you can.
      Sleep is a big factor to give us strength in the day and for a busy mummy and working and heavily pregnant lack of sleep and no sleep will really Impact on your day.
      Try to make as much "Me time" as you can and we are all here to give you a leg up ..... try stay relaxed as you can ....lots of love glynis x
       
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    4. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I was very stressed out on Thursday/Friday and my T remainded pretty low almost inaudible. Friday evening is when the bad sensitivity / T spiked up. Thursday we got some very scary news at the dr that I may have something called placenta acretia which is basically when the placenta grows through the uterus and often results in necessary hysterectomy to prevent excessive bleeding.. Its a very serious complication. Got news friday after a level 2 scan this is NOT the case and everything looks okay but I'm thinking maybe the added stress/worry from the previous 2 days caused a spike.. I'm not really sure. I haven't been able to sleep well over the last few weeks either and find myself just laying in bed listening to this stupid sound. :( Exhaustion is an understatement. I long for the "good days".

      @Gosia , yes I do think that I'm lucky that I don't have the ultra loud T / extra sensitivity all the time but the unknown is also just as scary as it changes all the time and the spikes can be very alarming. Just when I think I may be getting over this, I have a night like yesterday that throws me down again. You say your T is similar to mine, how do you manage yours?

      @glynis-harbron Unfortunately I have been SO busy. I think I try to keep myself as busy as possible so I don't focus on the T. I literally never rest. I do laundry, clean, cook dinner, tend to the kids, work, anything but sitting and relaxing because I'm afraid of where my mind wonders when I'm still. How I miss being able to just lounge and watch tv and take long naps on the couch.. Being 8 months pregnant that sounds like heaven.. but instead this stupid T has left me forcing myself to stay busy.. I do make time to do my meditation practices and get massages which help. I just am feeling a tad overwhelmed after 3 nights of not so good sleep and this high pitched screech is driving me a little bonkers today. :banghead:
       
    5. CarloZ

      CarloZ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      September 3, 2015
      Don't worry. Mine did this all time. I kept having low days and keep thinking " Hey I can get used to this". And then BAM! next think you know I'm back staying in my bed all day crying about my T. This happened a few days after getting somewhat used to the sound. Now I don't really damn about my regular original T. Just when it spikes for like an hour.
      And it sounds like you have hyperacusis. Don't know how severe yours is. But I got it as well 7 weeks in and it sucked. But it was VERY MILD compared to others on this forum. So mild it went away after 2-3 weeks.
       
    6. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Yeah, I've always had very reactive T (Television, car radio) and it now seems to be increased by other noises like my sink running, my voice sometimes, the keyboard even. Although it doesn't "hurt" it seems to increase the T unless it's super quiet. I don't really know how to deal with this. Its been this way since the beginning and seemingly getting slightly worse as time goes on, but it is all still very new. I would say if it is hyperacusis its probably on the milder scale to some of the other's here. I hope I get to the point where it doesn't affect me like this anymore. :(
       
    7. Karen
      Talkative

      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Hi, Natalie,

      I'm sorry you're experiencing reactive tinnitus. I have that, too, and there are several things that seem to set it off, most notably sounds at a certain pitch. However, mine has improved over time, so that I'm actually able to watch TV again. The best thing you can do is to try to ignore it (very difficult, I know!), and not let it upset you when this happens. Go do something quiet for awhile, and your tinnitus will settle down again.

      My reactive T has gotten better as time has gone on, so that now I can watch TV again. I usually watch no more than 1 hour of TV at a time, then go and occupy myself with a quiet activity for awhile.

      I hope yours begins to settle down, too. Remember, it's mind over matter with tinnitus. The less you focus on it, the better things will get.

      Hugs,
      Karen
       
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    8. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      THank you for your reply. It does give me hope that the reactive levels should settle.. Thats one of the most annoying things for me. Not being able to do what I enjoy because the T just gets so darn loud during.. There have been a few days I have been able to watch certain TV shows without too much annoyance but generally I don't even turn it on until my BF gets home. :( I'm worried maybe I'm making it worse for myself by watching tv anyway even though it reacts. Today it seems VERY reactive. Even the keyboard typing this is making the t slightly louder. I wonder if it's time to seek help from an audiologist.. T is so confusing and scary.
       
    9. Karen
      Talkative

      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Natalie,

      Yes, I think it will get better over time. And I don't think you're making your tinnitus worse by watching TV. Just do it in small doses. That's what I did, and things have really improved for me. I think that only really loud sounds can actually make your tinnitus worse, so be sure to keep ear protection with you at all times, especially when you go out. As you noted, even restaurants have loud music playing these days!!

      Going to an audiologist is a good idea, so that you can have your hearing checked to be sure there is no deterioration in hearing.

      Try not to be scared, and things will get better!! I am hoping for you that yours will improve after your baby is born.

      (P.S. -- Beautiful photo of you and your daughter!)
       
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    10. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I saw an audiologist briefly during my audiogram which determined I have mild- high frequency hearing loss which is "slightly uncommon for someone my age" (30). My dr suggested waiting for another audiogram until after pregnancy as pregnancy can change people's hearing anyway.. I think an audiologist just may be able to offer more local support and ideas in how I can cope with this .. Thank you for your kind words and advice! This is such a complex to have to deal with.. And thank you :) thats my "baby". She's two and a complete terror :)
       
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    11. InfiniteLoop
      Sunshine

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure. Long-term microbial overgrowth?
      My T has always been very fluctuating following a very similar pattern to yours. This pattern gave me the hope that something was evolving and perhaps improving, but almost two years later is about the same. It is also reactive to continuous noise: faucet, road noise, etc.... and that is very annoying. I had psychological H the first few months, but that faded as every day sounds did not seem to have any effect on the T. My affected T ear has hearing loss at very high frequencies 10-12KHz, and the audiogram looks similar to yours that is starting to go down at 8 Khz. My T loudness can go anywhere between 1 and 8, and that is mixed blessing since makes life difficult to plan.
       
    12. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Yours does sound very much similar to mine.. It's beyond obnoxious.. What have you done, if anything to try and treat it?
       
    13. I who love music
      Cheerful

      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      Hi Natalie,
      Sounds like me. Salt, sugar, and coffee.
      Like you, I was off this site from Oct to Dec last year, not wanting to think about my T. But during that time I was trying a method I learned here - and it worked, for me.
      I wanted to "Get on" with life too. But how? Right?
      Telling myself to get on with life was one thing, but actually changing my actions and making a new pattern of action, and creating a new response actually silenced my T by 99%. I no longer talk about T (except here), I don't worry about it, I don't panic about it, I don't dwell on it in the least. And I go days without hearing it. I'm not new to T. I've had it since 1974. The method is simple and only requires a new way of responding to it, and as these new responses fade, that means only one thing- T is not being heard.
      Sounds too simple, I know.

      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/back-to-silence.7172/
       
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    14. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I have read this post before and try SO hard to implement your technique as I have read you say it helped a lot of people. Thank you for your kind words
       
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    15. InfiniteLoop
      Sunshine

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure. Long-term microbial overgrowth?
      [/QUOTE]

      I tried many techniques, prescriptions, supplements, diets, etc...., but nothing will even touch the T. Only sound therapy in the form of masking can help with the spikes. Music helps to flatten the T sound and hide it. At the end, the game is about how your brain deals with the intruder. In my case, I am losing since T has affected my sense of reality to a limit I could never imagine, and I have not been able to recover even after this long time. I think my personality traits are not compatible with this T monster. You have a lot going on in your life and that will help you to stay rooted.
       
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    16. Zug

      Zug Member Benefactor

      Hey @Natalie Roberts I've been trying this method. At least for me it's not as easy as it looks, but I did find some improvement. We got nothing to loose, go for it! :)
       
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    17. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      @InfiniteLoop I'm sorry you haven't been coping very well with this.. I understand personality traits not working with T. I have OCD and therefore tend to have loud intrusive thoughts about the T or obsessively think / search for it etc. Thats a trait not compatible with T but I am hoping once things calm down in my body I will feel better.. I am, so far unable to find anything that masks my t without causing it to flair. Music seems to make it worse as does the TV. I try a sound machine at night on rain fall and that is good sometimes but sometimes it aggravates my T. I also found some variation of white noise tend to slightly mask but usually silence is what works best for me in making my T more tolerable oddly enough.. I've been practicing meditation and that also helps.. Have you tried that? I'm sure you have.. Just throwing ideas out there.. :huganimation:


      @Zug , this is similar to stuff I do in my meditation so I'm thinking I can incorporate it. So far I have been able to do it a few days a week and successfully ward off the anxiety that comes with the T which I mark as an improvement. When I don't feel anxious about it, it's much easier to ignore/manage..
       
    18. InfiniteLoop
      Sunshine

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure. Long-term microbial overgrowth?
      @Natalie Roberts

      I am in the very detail oriented, obsessive at times, and with tendency to the depression side. I used to love music and it used to be one of the main drives in my life. I used to think that as long as I have music I will be OK in life. Now music is distorted and lifeless. T is just pure poison that gets renewed every morning for my personality type.
      Ironically, before T, I was a yoga head and attending classes 4-5 times a week. I was in the best shape of my life and in a great inner mood. Enter T, and the yoga practice was the first thing that I could not go through anymore. All those random noises in what it used to be peaceful silence were unbareable. During the first year I tried meditation following the Dr. Gans Meditation Tinnitus Class (http://www.mindfultinnitusrelief.com), but it did not stick. I tried another 8 week meditation course at a local Buddhist Center, but it did not stick either. I understand the meditation route, but somehow I can not internalize the learning. Same problem for many other psychological methods to deal with T. It is like I am in an endless state of trauma.
       
    19. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.

      I'm sorry to hear about this ;,( I agree that T is poision.. It's been one of the most difficult things I've come to deal with so far. when it's on, it's really on and the effects are psychologically extremely difficult to manage. I wish they had a cure for this for all of us. I am very sorry to hear of your suffering. It makes me very sad when I hear these things because I value all of your posts so much it saddens me to know you're still suffering. :(
       
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    20. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      "TREATMENT FOR HYPERACUSIS
      There are no specific corrective surgical or medical treatments for hyperacusis. However, sound therapy may be used to “retrain” the auditory processing center of the brain to accept everyday sounds. This involves the use of a noise-generating device worn on the affected ear or ears. Those suffering from hyperacusis may be uncomfortable with placing sound directly in their ear, but the device produces a gentle static-like sound (white noise) that is barely audible. Completion of sound therapy may take up to 12 months, and usually improves sound tolerance.Because social situations are often painfully loud for those with hyperacusis, withdrawal, social isolation, and depression are common."
       
    21. randomuser

      randomuser Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      @Natalie Roberts hi, I've been reading your posts and your t is very similar to mine. It cycles a lot, but if you can get to a point where your mood is not depressive or anxious, the cycles will lessen a lot, it happened to me once... entire weeks with few spikes and a reasonably good mood. My t likes silence too. Mine got better, hope yours will too.
       
    22. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Reactive tinnitus is truly horrible...Mine only went with a keppra+trobalt combo, but I'm sure everyone knows that by now. I'm hoping that SF drug will help you all ^_^. I hate knowing you all suffer, I really do.
       
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    23. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Thank you. Unfortunately since I am pregnant there is really no medication they are willing to give to me right now. So basically it's visit an audiologist or wait it out. :(
       
    24. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Thank you. How long did it take for yours to improve? Mine has come and gone every so often . One day will be bad and two will be good then a bad day etc. today is particularly reactive. My dad just told me 'I've had tinnitus for as long as I can remember and you just learn to live with it. It's just a sound. Mine varies in intensity but is pretty much always there. So just forget it! You're giving it too much attention.' Sigh. If only it was that easy..I wonder why some people are able to ignore it and others struggle? :,( right now it's very, very loud. I can't even describe the sound other then loud static in my ears.. I know it's worse since I just filled up the bathtub for my kids.. Will take a while to settle. Then will flair back up in a little bit to some other stupid sound.
       
    25. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      They'd just give you wearable white noise generators which helps some people. Hopefully it helps you...I'm truly sorry you suffer.
       
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    26. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I've debating going. I've been dealing with it surprisingly well overall I think. I don't know that I could actually do the white noise generators because of my work. I'm required to wear a headset in one ear (911 emergency dispatcher). So I don't know how that would work with a device. I am taking maternity leave for 12 weeks so I could start the treatment then when I could actually wear them I guess. Or find a new job. :/
       
    27. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      You'd only need to listen to it for an hour or a few hours a day.
       
    28. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      @Danny Boy Oh really? I thought it was something like 10 hours a day. I work 8 hours a day from 6am-2pm so I could wear it 2pm-10pm at least 8 hours most days and longer on my days off if needed. I guess I should just go talk to someone!
       
    29. Engineer
      Creative

      Engineer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/20/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely acoustic hearing loss
      Natalie, the noise generators helped me tremendously, I even wore them while sleeping. Its possible to wear them under headphones too, but its up to you to decide if that helps or is necessary. Please check it out, you might find some significant relief or improvement, I certainly did. - Trebor
       
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    30. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Did you do the TRT or was it for hyperacusis? I really don't know much about how the noise generators work.. How fast did you notice relief ?
       

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