Hearing Loss in Addition to Tinnitus After Microsuction to Remove Ear Wax

Discussion in 'Support' started by Cape crusader, Oct 4, 2018.

    1. Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      About a week ago I had microsuction procedure done to remove earwax at ENT.

      As soon as he was done I noticed a big amount of hearing loss, almost like pressure being in the airplane.

      I went to see the ENT next day and he prescribed Prednisone.

      It’s not working and I still feel my hearing loss.

      The machine was really loud. I hope to God I didn’t get permanent hearing loss.

      I go in for more tests next week.

      Has anybody had the microsuction procedure done with side effects?
       
    2. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      hearing loss and tinnitus almost always go together.
       
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    3. Deamon22

      Deamon22 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head Trauma
      I had slight problems, it got better after 1-2 days. I would not do it again.
       
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    4. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      The problem is that my hearing in both ears were effected immediately after the procedure. That’s why I am fearful because of the very loud noise it creates. Any thoughts?
       
    5. Deamon22

      Deamon22 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head Trauma
      How long did the procedure last?
       
    6. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      About 5 minutes on each ear
       
    7. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      that's enough time to do damage. I advise people not to do microsuction. Manual ear wax removal is the best way to go.
       
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    8. Deamon22

      Deamon22 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Italy
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head Trauma
      In general microsuction is a safe procedure, but of course there can be side effects. Mine lasted just 5 seconds in each ear and i got moderate hyperacusis and louder tinnitus for 1-2 days.

      I can‘t really give you any advice what to do now. If you had a lot of wax in your ear it could take a while for the tinnitus to fade. Has your tinnitus gotten any worse? You could maybe do an extended audiogramm.

      I think you should follow your doctors advice and give your ears a lot of rest.
       
    9. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      all temporary hearing thresholds cause some permanent damage when cochlear ribbon synapses die.
       
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    10. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      T is the same. Yes I have an audio gram set up for next Monday and a follow up ENT MD Wednesday. I think it also caused H. I was in a supermarket today and had to leave.
      Never had that before. Needless to say I’m really pissed and scared. Thanks for all you help everyone
       
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    11. Redocooking

      Redocooking Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Genetics possibly
      Personally I would write down everything that's transpired and try to gather evidence as well.

      You'll recover, don't worry, you just need to eat more healthy and let your ears rest and recover from the incident.
       
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    12. Dginobile

      Dginobile Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown, Satan perhaps?
      The most important thing is NOT to panic. I know it’s hard but this will only cause worsening of tinnitus and hyperacusis! I believe it may be temporary and will fade as your ears heal from the procedure, never panic in the beginning give it time and try to remain positive ❤️

      And don't google or read horror stories! Worst thing I ever did to myself!
       
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    13. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      It’s been a week now and my hearing is totally muffled. I had no hearing issues before the microsuction procedure. I really think the noise caused damage in both ears. It happened right after the procedure was done and still with me one week later. I have an appointment next week. Please pray for me that will clear up. I’m in the broadcast business and audio is my life. please pray for me that will clear up. I’m so desperate
       
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    14. Jack Straw
      Balanced

      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      1990s
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      Stay positive @Cape crusader . It can sometimes take a couple months for things like this to clear up and heal. There is a good chance this isn't permanent so don't panic or worry. You are very fortunate to have taken Prednisone right after you noticed the issue this will likely help in the recovery.

      What does your ENT have to say about this whole situation?
       
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    15. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      He said he never has seen this happen after using the procedure on many patients. I’m wondering if it’s some kind of nerve damage? We’ll have to see. Thanks for all your positive words. I need as many as I can get. Bless
       
    16. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      audio grams unless they check for various speech and frequencies with competiting background noise are extremely inaccurate.It is common knowledge on thsi forum that a trip to the average audiologist/ENT is a laughtable experience. the only reason you should see an ENT is to check for hidden tumors, and possibly get a predisone steroid.
      http://hyperacusisfocus.org/innerear/#hiddenloss
       
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    17. Smartone202

      Smartone202 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Very low since2004/Went haywire in 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise in 04/Wedding dance floor and flying(?) in 18
      You did not get hearing loss from mircrosuction.
       
    18. Jack Straw
      Balanced

      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      1990s
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      Interesting that he said that. I don't really believe he has never heard of this happening to patients. It is just a quicker way to remove wax than manually doing it by hand.

      I think you will make a full recovery if you rest your ears.

      If you go for a hearing exam, please make sure they do not play any loud noises into your ear. There is a test that tests the muscle inside your ear by playing a very loud noise to see if it contracts. Tell them ahead of time to NOT play any loud excessive noises into your ear not matter how short it may be. They will know exactly what test your talking about so make sure to avoid it.
       
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    19. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      I agree 100% Stay away from Acoustic Reflex!! It is extremely dangerous and it causes hearing damage.
       
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    20. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      Thank you all. I will mention to to avoid the Acoustic test and loud noise testing.
      To answer Smarttone, yes the hearing loss (muffeled -plugged up sense) happened immediately after the microsuction procedure one week ago today and no change.
      Bless you all for your feedback.
       
    21. uae96
      Thinking

      uae96 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/14/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Hey, do you also have hyperacusis?
       
    22. Dginobile

      Dginobile Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown, Satan perhaps?
      I did in the beginning, it was terrible driving in the car was a nightmare, the sound of a plastic bag even hurt my ears. But I used mindfulness to overcome that. I told myself over and over that these sounds were not going to hurt me or my hearing and eventually it went away.
       
    23. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      Microsuction is LOUD ENOUGH to cause hearing damage. I dont understand why dumb ENTs put stuff into people's ears. We are not supposed to have a 110db sound in our ears, it can cause damage for sure. God, I cant believe they are so stupid.
       
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    24. Deandy0110

      Deandy0110 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan/Feb 18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unilateral tinnitus
      Cape crusader did your problem resolve or what happened ..ive just had microsuction n also have muffled hearing ..im scared :(
       
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    25. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      @Deandy0110
      No, 16 months later, hearing loss still there. I now have hearing aids and suffering from high pitch tinnitus 24/7. Microsuction should be outlawed.

      How’s yours?
       
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    26. martinberryhorse

      martinberryhorse Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Aug 5, 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      One hard cough
      I had one ENT tell me he has given multiple patients tinnitus from using a suction machine. He couldn't have cared less, he even went and said "It's not even that loud" blowing off the fact he ruined lives. He switched it on and looked at me like "See?" and I couldn't believe how loud it was nor how utterly stupid and callous doctors can be. Terrifying. I hope you sue the crap out of them.
       
    27. The singer

      The singer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/03/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      MICROSUTION OF EARWAX
      I am a SINGER and I went to an ENT almost 2 months ago to have my ear wax removed and she used a suction machine. She did not offer any other method to remove earwax! The sound was SOOOO loud that after she did the removal my ear was blocked in the Eustachian tube and water or fluid was filling the cochlea in my inner ear.

      Then loud tinnitus set in. I went to the ER four times because of it! They did not do anything to help since the doctors in the ER are general medicine and not specialists. The loudness partially subsided but now is a constant hissing and ringing in my right ear.

      Ear wax suctioning IS NOT SAFE FOR YOUR INNER EAR!!! It can kill or bend the cilia hairs in the inner ear inside the cochlea (the snail like part of the inner ear) and can inflame or irritate the auditory nerve. Fluid can also build up in there and cause the tinnitus and dizziness which I did experience.

      NO ENT should be using a suction machine that is SO LOUD that it reaches the maximum decibel threshold point to cause noise trauma. I am now seeking to sue the doctor on malpractice and the manufacturer of the ear suction machine if this does not go away. It should not be used! I do not care how convenient it seems to be for the doctor. I will kick their A**!

      Sound is measured in decibels (dB). A whisper is about 30 dB, normal conversation is about 60 dB, and a motorcycle engine running is about 95 dB. Noise above 70 dB over a prolonged period of time may start to damage your hearing. Loud noise above 120 dB can cause immediate harm to your ears.

      Trauma to the ear

      As the microsuction ear wax removal procedure involves a tube being inserted into the ear canal, there is a small risk that some damage or trauma could occur in the ear canal or ear drum. This can occur from sudden movements by the recipient. In extremely rare cases, the eardrum can become perforated.

      Noise damage
      The equipment used during ear wax removal does generate some noise, which some find to be very loud. In minimal cases, this can cause temporary short lived hearing loss, known as a temporary threshold shift. This occasionally happens when tiny muscles contract to protect the ear against noise. There is also an extremely rare chance of tinnitus being caused, or existing tinnitus worsened.
       
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