If an Individual Has Tinnitus Does That Mean They Can't Get a Proper Sleep Anymore?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Filip, Aug 9, 2016.

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    1. Filip

      Filip Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud earbuds music
      I heard that with sound going on the brain is processing the information, so does this mean I can't have a normal sleep to recover from stress, muscle growth and hormone changes. I sleep in complete dark and also complete silence except for airplanes passing by frequently (also tinnitus). I been wondering deep down because lately I been not able to sleep straight 9 hours like I use to. I mostly sleep for 6 hours straight than wake up , but than going back again to sleep after only 1 or 2 hours passed I wake up again. I been getting more dreams Everytime I snooze these 1 to 2 hour naps. It's surprising how much the dreams go on for its like many hours passed but only 1 hour or 2 passes. Anyone a expert on sleep stages and rem sleep? I hope doesn't mean i miss out on sleep benefits from others.
       
    2. GregCA
      Crappy

      GregCA Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      T is definitely known to affect sleep.
       
    3. Vaba
      Shitfaced

      Vaba Member

      Location:
      New New York
      Tinnitus Since:
      Unknown
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown. Gradual, Progressive
      I go to bed dizzy, unbalanced and exhausted, and that's how I wake up.
       
    4. Daveyrvancleef

      Daveyrvancleef Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dont know.
      If you're bothered by your tinnitus, yes your sleep is going to be affected. If you're less bothered by your tinnitus, your sleep will be less affected.

      So I presume the answer is no, having tinnitus does not mean you can't get a proper sleep anymore.

      I have bad nights and good nights of sleep, and I know I can sleep with my 8/10 tinnitus if I'm relaxed and my mind is not racing. Anxiety is the only thing that is affecting my sleep. Anxiety can come from that annoying pitch, a bad day, and panic attacks.

      The less you focus on your sleep, the better it will become.

      BTW if you're dreaming, your probably past stage 1 & 2 in the sleep cycle.
       
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    5. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Hi @Filip,
      recently came off Amitryptaline after 12 years and now my sleep is very poor from no sleep to 2-3 hours.
      I have now been put on melatonin 2mg to help my sleep and will start it tonight for insomnia and help sleep with tinnitus.
      Anyone taken it and does it help?.....lots of love glynis
       
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    6. Natalie Roberts
      Depressed

      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      Regardless of how bad my T is during the day, when I lay down at night I no longer (after initial onset) have difficulty sleeping. However, I don't feel as rested as I did before my tinnitus onset.
       
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    7. Richard zurowski

      Richard zurowski Member Benefactor

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      27/12/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection.
      @glynis-harbron . Hi Glynis why did you stop taking amitriptyline. I haven't taken melatonin so I can't comment on that drug. I'm on 100 mg of amitriptyline because my mood has taken a dive. And finding it hard with my tinnitus at this time.
       
    8. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      I take melatonine / l-theanine sleep gummies every night. Mixed results. Definitely better than nothing.
       
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    9. Lorac

      Lorac Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sudden profound hearing loss in left ear.
      I love sleep. It's the only time I get away from the noise. Sleep is my escape.
       
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    10. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      @Richard zurowski ,
      I was on Amitryptaline 100mg for many years and put on it by the hospital for ostio arthritis and tramadol.
      After not taking tramadol for a while the doc and myself decided to wean down to 50mg amitryptaline and then I started with depression after 10-12 years on it for pain.
      Instead of increasing it again this time my doc said he would put me on a better one with less side effects as now it was for depression after my brain was use to the drug for pain.
      So I ended up on 50mg amitryptaline with 75mg of venalafaxine for two years.
      Now weaned off amitryptaline about 6-8 weeks ago and venalafaxine increased so now on one medication.
      The only thing is now with being on amitryptaline over 12 years it has totally recked my sleep pattern and going nights with no sleep to only 2-3 hours if im lucky and im shattered.
      Doctor put me on something begining with c but it's another name for melatonin 2mg so god I hope it works as start it tonight.

      The Amitryptaline will help you as it builds up in your system and lift your mood for you and should help sleep I took it at night.
      I now am on l50mg of venalafaxine and just need to sleep.....lots of love glynis
       
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    11. undecided
      Fine

      undecided Member

      Location:
      Greece
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown.
      Venlafaxine is the biggest brain fu**er of all ADs. Also does nothing for any pain management.
      I'm shocked that your doctor cold turkeyed you from Amitriptyline (a mostly harmless tricyclic with some bad side effects, some very beneficial ones as well) on to some hardcore brain --> mustard converter. Also, venlafaxine will negatively impact your sleep, that's why it should be taken early in the day.
      I'm not saying that Amitriptyline is angelic dust or anything but it is a tried-and-tested drug for a number of conditions.

      Also be wary. Venlafaxine will eventually affect your ears (not in a good way). I am a living example, don't need to quote any sources. Thank God I was left with half a brain to realize that before it was too late.

      Edit: you say you also got a drug beginning with 'c'... Is that Circadin? That's melatonin, and it only comes in 2mg doses. Which would put to sleep a medium sized bunny. So you need something else for your sleep.
       
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    12. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      @undecided ,
      Thank you for your input as it's fairly new to me.
      It's been so hard to sleep since came off Amitryptaline so hope melatonin helps get my sleep pattern back for me.
      Doing ok on Venlefaxine so far but it's one or the other keeping me awake and it's hard going .
      ......lots of love glynis
      @undecided yes it's circadian.
      Hope I sleep soon or will need go back see him
      ...knock me out with a rolling pin please...lol
       
    13. OnceUponaTime
      Facebooking

      OnceUponaTime Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New York
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/11
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Allergies or Acoustic Trauma, Stress
      @glynis-harbron I hope you get some sleep. I took 3mg melatonin and gave me horrible nightmares. :( But my husband takes it and helps him to sleep. Go figure, everyone is different. He says that liquid melatonin works better for him and faster. The pills not so good. Feel better soon. Will pray for you. :)
       
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    14. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Thank you @OnceUponaTime .
      I know I will be fine when I sleep better so fingers crossed.......lots of love glynis
       
    15. Fangen
      Monday blues

      Fangen Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Stockholm, Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2nd, 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma (loud concert for 1h)
      T affect your sleep? Yes, but that has to do more with the anxiety rather the noise.
      Our brain always hear noises during sleep, that is why you wake up if someone is knocking on your door, someone making noise in the kitchen (etc, you get it). But we usually sleep through most of the noises anyway, even before T. Now that you are stressed and anxious about the T, that makes it hard to sleep rather the noise itself. Of course, the noise is the source of the stress/anxiety but having T does not equal to bad sleep. I was fortunate to not have my sleep affected after the onset of T, and now that I have a cold, I have fallen asleep so damn fast and don't even wake up when my partner makes noises. But that is because the body is too tired to bother with anything else than recovery from the cold. Same thing with you, once your stress goes down a bit, your mind and body will learn that the noise is nothing to bother itself about. :)

      Best wishes!
       
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    16. Steve H
      Creative

      Steve H Director Staff Benefactor Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      @Filip Tinnitus hasn't particularly stopped me from sleeping. Anxiety has disrupted my sleep before and if I wake up in the night I often struggle to get back to sleep but these were pre-tinnitus issues also.

      It is never a self fulfilling prophecy, you may struggle sometimes or you may not, I believe it is usually your state of mind that dictates that, rather than the tinnitus itself. I had convinced myself in the early days that tinnitus would disrupt my sleep, that my patterns of sleep were due to tinnitus rather than just being broadly the same as they always had been. I didn't succeed in embedding that thought pattern and I've not been particularly affected.
       
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    17. undecided
      Fine

      undecided Member

      Location:
      Greece
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown.
      Sleep will be harder when you first get t.
      It gets better with time. Actually it gets very much better.

      Don't overdo it with drugs if you feel panicked in the first weeks. Getting a couple of hours each night will have to do, eventually you'll find coping mechanisms. Just staying in bed relaxing with your eyes closed listening to some low volume music that you like is better than running around the room panicked. You'll be a bit zombified in the morning but that's what you get. If you can go like that for some months, you'll be set, your sleep will start improving as your brain accepts the noise.

      If you get 0 sleep or you're the real panicky sort, it's time for drugs. Try herbal shit for starters. Melatonin, maybe Valdoxan, Valerian, Passionflower, Kava Kava. You'll sleep for a couple of nights, then you develop tolerance and that's it (except Melatonin/Valdoxan, they actually work indefinitely for some people).

      And when you're ready to jump off the balcony, go to the doc and he'll fill your bathroom drawer with benzo candy you can suck down as needed (and when you just feel like it).

      Then develop massive benzo addiction and register with benzobuddies and spend more time on the computer. Hooray.
       
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