Lidocaine. Did It Myself. Twice. Lowered Tinnitus from 7 to 1.

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by tinnitube, Mar 14, 2016.

    1. JasonP
      No Mood

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Since you are an MD, what do you think about the drug Riluzole? I heard there can be a glutamate ecotoxicity and this drug works on glutamate. My doc won't prescribe it for me since she is unfamiliar with it. We have a discussion on it here:

      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...iluzole-ignorant-stupid-or-worth-a-try.17437/

      Please let me know what you think. There is an article about it on Wikipedia.
       
    2. Quiet please
      Wishful

      Quiet please Member

      Location:
      Westchester County, NY
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I really don't know.
      Candy, I seemed to have developed TMJ after a broken tooth extraction from hell. My jaw joint slipped and I went through 18 months of TMJ treatment. Very expensive.
      The Tinnitus came after the TMJ. The dental specialist told me the Tinnitus might be related & it might get better. It never really did. The TMJ is generally solved, as the cat scan shows the jaw joint back in place, but the Tinnitus lingered. Afterwards, my hearing was impaired with SSHL & I now wear bilateral hearing aids. I also just started seeing a highly recommended holistic chiropractor & am getting cranial therapy work done. It's helping a bit so far. The t is quieter and the temporalis muscles are calmer. He's gently shifting my C1 and I feel relief & more energy. I'll let you know.
       
    3. Jamclem
      Fine

      Jamclem Member

      Location:
      Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flying then Sport (Probs)
      @tinnitube
      Thanks for the very interesting information. Lidocaine is definitely one to put on the "possible" list.

      How is your tinnitus now? Are you still taking Stresam (Etifoxine)?
       
    4. tinnitube
      Supportive

      tinnitube Member

      Location:
      Viña del Mar (CHILE)
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      damn virus
      hi all :) its being time since I was out of the forum , but ive always remember you . So I will update all ; here it goes . my life has resolve to normal :) im back to my old self . My T is like 3/10 . sometimes less , it doesnt bother me anymore thanks God , I was very bad at the begining so I know whay one can feel . In all , all medications I did try , as an Md , ( i dont care what other md might say) because 99.9% didnt help me . The only real ones that did help at a very noticeable level and consistently where ; lidocaine and Amitriptyline (12.5mg qhs). Etifoxine did help me , but with time the effect of calming my nerves when when out and the drug is not potent enough for consistent use , although I would recomend it for short term instead of benzo . Benzo is like playing with fire , in my clinical practice I recomend amitryptiline , the key of this is to take a low dose like 12.5mg , 12 hours bfore waking up . It will make you sleep very good , you will wake up in a good mood and the T will not affect you as before . This drug recommend me one ENT that "his father" used to traeat T sufferers with it , so he did the same . This ENT was the 0.1% that help me and understand me , he told me "sometime it goes away with ami" but if it doest go away in your case you will sleep good and be in a good mood . This last thing happen to me :) . Ive always now ask my patients "how are you ears do you feel any ringing?" and to my surpirse many , many says to me "yes shure , in the night" I have met two or three patients that had T for like 2-3 years and then dissapear , I had one patient very young , like 28Years old who has catastrophic T from sudden hear loss and im trying to help him . So well thats all , I think T does get well itself with time , I don´t know the mechanism but it does get better . For me was 2 years . 1 year very bad and the other one starting to get better . I had H also , but it did go away . Lidocaine is good for the crisis , when the brain is suffering from the new type of sound and you are under panic mode , but the effect will go away soon , so its impossible to use it for "cure" , it doesnt cure . But I must say it did help me in the habituation process because each time I use it and the effect went away , the T was still there but bother me a litlle less , why ? I dont know . But please dont believe this is a magic bullet , it just help a little . Its very cheap , I mean really cheap so paying hundred dollars for this is just taking advantage of the pain of others . Please be aware of this business , I hope everyone will get better ASAP , let me know any question as this forum really help me at the begining of my T :)
       
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    5. Candy

      Candy Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unidentified
    6. Quiet please
      Wishful

      Quiet please Member

      Location:
      Westchester County, NY
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I really don't know.
      Update: I've had 3 chiro-cranial therapy sessions. My pain & T is reduced. I signed on for a 12 week - once weekly treatment. The first day, I had 4 hrs of relief, 2nd day, about 8 hrs & my 3rd was yesterday, so it's about 12 hrs to far. He very gently is adjusting my spine, traps, neck, shoulders, jaw, temporalis muscles & many areas of the head. Very gentle smooth movements. From the first adjustment, I felt lighter & a sense of relief. Will update again.
       
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    7. Marlino
      Cowboy

      Marlino Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      @tinnitube:

      I'm currently switching from low dose remeron 7,5mg to amitryptilin. My tinnitus is very much fluctuating, some days good (well let's say ok) but then for a couple of days bad again. Since this setbacks happen weekly to every 2weeks and are very painful, I try to find improvement.
      Currently I take 20mg amitryptilin every evening for 6 days now and my situation couldn't be worse. I hoped it would maybe lower tinnitus, but instead I feel tired, tensed and tinnitus is top level. My mood is suicidal.

      I'm thinking about to quit it. @Tigo had also only bad experiences after 3 weeks taking it.
      I know for depression amitryptilin is recommended to be taken at least 4 weeks at 50mg or more.

      How long do I have to take it in this scenario to possibly see improvements?
      It it possible that it aggravates symptoms first (t and related depression) and makes it better then?
       
    8. iftah

      iftah Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hyperacusis primarily - unknown
      so just to summarize - no one in this forum has gained any benefit from lidocaine except the author of this thread?
       
    9. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      That may be true, but he may also be the only one in this forum to have tried IV lidocaine.
      There are research papers/studies that document lidocaine's effectiveness (again, it works for some people, not everyone), but it's just not practical to keep IV'ing yourself with lidocaine all the time, and we don't know exactly what the long term side effects would be.
       
    10. Marlino
      Cowboy

      Marlino Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Update from my side:
      I feel quite sleepless from Ami. Even though its said to make tired it makes me only confused but not really sleepy.
      Also either I get sick or I get slight heat flushes from it.

      Anyway. T is down today again to low base line. So at least it doesn't seem to make it worse. Now it just have to make my T disappear!
       
    11. tinnitube
      Supportive

      tinnitube Member

      Location:
      Viña del Mar (CHILE)
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      damn virus
      yes Iftah , I think im afraid Im the only one , but the only also MD that has used IV that I know , but its not practical to use it all the time , impossible . Some posts report same anecdotal experience also , like when going to the dentist and get a shot of lido , almost same effect . Note that I tried "parches de lidocaine" you called them lidocaine patches , but the absorption is almost null , because its only superficial . I think some clinic at US do the same at a very high cost , I cannot do it to other patients here because here , its out of protocol . But out of my desperation I did my self because I was on hell .

      Merlino , so sorry you are having that harsh time . Yes Ami does that , one has to take it and be prepared for sleep , like in 2 hours , I mean you have to go to sleep It will not knock you out like other kind of drug like hypnotics . Also keep an eye of yous sleeping habits , TV , cel phone is out of question but so basic many patients do this things without noticing is has effect , you have to have a good habit before sleeping also , reading a book , taking a long shower etc . It will begin fixing your sleeping pattern then your mood could be better and your find strength to face the day :) , some persons may have a bad experience taking it I agree , I think you give it like 3 weeks knowing the least dose to do the best effect on you , if you're not taking any advantage of it , you must comment this to your Doc , but 20mg its not a high dose , but you have to keep it the lowest possible . In some people the effect is notorious immediately on other it takes longer , just reflecting that medicine is not "an exact science" in the real world . Do everything in your hands to take your mind to a relaxed state , this also helps , this battle you have to win it from every possible point of help . Ami is only one point that help , please keep in mind that also . As sound is connected to the lymbic system , T affects mood in a critical way , this is very important to understand , I tell patients "just the same if hearing a lyion will make you have fear" T works the same , it takes down your mood and aggravate a depression or take you there . So is this part that Ami is good at fixing .
       

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