My Audiology Visit

Discussion in 'Support' started by valeri, Mar 1, 2016.

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    1. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      All went well, hearing loss hasn't gone worse.
      Then he said lets talk about tinnitus: "Everyone has tinnitus!"
      "Ummm, nooooo, I disagree!"
      "It's clear to me you haven't done your research!"
      "I lived 37 years with no noises in my ear!"
      "That's impossible, few years ago they tested 200 young students and everyone of them reported hearing noises in silence, so it's normal, everyone has it"

      At this point I'm thinking should I really say what I mean and know, should I stab him with a pen and say how old school his opinion is.
      Meanwhile I'm thinking how much damage has that old fuck jastrebof caused with his stupid habituation shit!
      Bustard!
      And still to this day in 2016 audiology hasn't moved from his crazy concept.
      Good ol' doc was right, there will never be a cure! What's to cure when it's normal????
       
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    2. Sebastians

      Sebastians Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      13/10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Guitars, loud girls and guns
      It's not about hearing mild T in an anechoic room, it's about hearing your friggin T over 65 db ambient noise. Next time throw a bunch of firecrackers into his office before leaving and closing the door, let's see how normal he will feel after that.
       
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    3. snow86
      Surrender

      snow86 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006 - Extreme T since 12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      see "information" on profile page. Crippled by extreme T
      Shows how most people think that only one kind of mild T exists. (some people hear it in total silence? o m g ! )

      here is a compilation of consolation answers ( the classics):

      1) no need for such despair, there are people far worse off!1 (like people who have to read such answers)

      2) you could just stop suffering and enjoy your life. I see no reason why you should suffer one more day.

      3) just ignore it! you're gonna be happy in no time.

      4) I could barely hear it when I was falling asleep but It was a complete nightmare. Now im writing this amazing success story after 2 months, why cant you?

      5) TRT anyone?


      (sorry if any1 feels offended....this shit makes me sick)
       
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    4. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Glad your hearing has not got worse.

      Sorry the supporting medical professional /audiologist was not very supportive and caring regarding your tinnitus .....lots of love glynis
       
    5. Reinier
      Not amused

      Reinier Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Explosion starting engine
      Not very tactful, this audiologist.
      Down playing your tinnitus is adding insult to injury.
      I was without tinnitus before my noise incident. No doctor can convince me otherwise. I regard a few dB tinnitus not as tinnitus.
      I agree with @snow86.
      Here is another one: No worries, it will not kill you or damage your ears any further.
      Sorry: tinnitus and hyperacusis are high again today )-:
       
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    6. Reinier
      Not amused

      Reinier Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Explosion starting engine
      How fast would we have a cure if everyone had tinnitus?
       
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    7. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      It's not really normal to them anymore, though, when you tell them in tears just how loud it is. They dismiss you as crazy in a flash then. Valeri, we must do something for awareness in the medical establishment first and firmost. This is one of the most unfair situation I have encountered in this unfair life. A terrible, terrible malady minimized or, actually, not recognized at all. This is outrageous! Absolutely outrageous!
       
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    8. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      It does seem strange when people have tinnitus with no hearing loss. NOT saying it isn't real, it's just puzzling. Isn't yours low frequecy Valeri? You would think that you could see that on a regular hearing test? Is it possible that you have objective tinnitus?
       
    9. just1morething
      Benevolent

      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      barotrauma from airplane descent, noise exposure? ETD? TMJD?
      Next time stab him with a pen or bring your frying pan along.:) Knock some sense into that Bustard!
       
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    10. just1morething
      Benevolent

      just1morething Member Benefactor

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      barotrauma from airplane descent, noise exposure? ETD? TMJD?
      Indeed he has. Bustard!
       
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    11. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      I totally agree. Just wanted to quote the statement for which I gave the "genius" rating. The problem stems from here: maybe some people start hearing something when they are in an audiologist, soundproofed booth. By naming that tiny sound that doesn't interfere with their lives, as they were not even aware that they hear something when in complete silence, also as TINNITUS, the ones that have catastrophic TINNITUS are categorized as experiencing the same phenomenon as the first group, only they catastrophy something, the exact same thing, that the other hard working nice people do not make a fuss about.

      Yeah, present your excuses for telling the truth, cause you really need to apologize that you slipped something.
       
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    12. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      My hearing loss in the left ear, tinnitus in right one which has no hearing loss.
      Yes it's low frequency drone that's driving me up the wall.
      Subjective? Objective? It means nothing to me!
      I think Australia is still very behind in many things, audiology included, the "sound proof" boot was anything but that, I could still hear the aircon noise, audiologist said that's normal!
      Another place I went to they tested my hearing just siting in the office and was out those big ear muffs, that's how advanced things are here:(
       
    13. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      Audiograms mean next to nothing in regards to tinnitus. The inner ear can be damaged in ways that will not show up on a very rudimentary audiogram.
       
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    14. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Yeah fair enough. My tinnitus sits exactly where I have lost a bunch of hearing shown on my audiogram. It's just weird that some people can hear a pin drop or a beep with the hearing test through their T. As soon as I get into trying to hear the beeps around where my hearing loss and T are located T there is just no way, too much tinnitus noise and hearing loss. My audiogram fits my T perfectly, I guess everyone is different.
       
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    15. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      I'm saying that maybe you are hearing blood flow or something else coming from your body and not a phantom noise.
       
    16. InfiniteLoop
      Sunshine

      InfiniteLoop Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Redwood City, California
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure. Long-term microbial overgrowth?
      @valeri

      Audiologists/ENTs try to hide the lack of any treatment saying that is not a real problem. Luckily they did not try to push you a Neuronomics or any of those expensive sound therapies that have less value than many iPhone T apps that one can buy for $5. Unfortunately, habituation is the only treatment we can get in the early 21st century for chronic tinnitus, that is the sad truth.
       
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    17. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      It's a damn drone noise I hear in my head, what it is I have no clue:(
      But I've already had my run with 5 ENT and 3 audiologist and I'm not going down that path again. Waste of time and money!
       
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    18. Reinier
      Not amused

      Reinier Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Explosion starting engine
      You are correct. I should not apologise. What I wanted to point out was my more emotional than constructive post, reflected my mindset at the moment.
       
    19. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Very true. "Habituation" has a place, but overall I think it has delayed research into real understanding, diagnoses and potential treatments. "Habituation" has become the soft option, and when someone gets a license to treat an illness outside of the usual Medical model, then every problem is solved by the treatment you are licensed to give. As for the ENTs, (the couple who know in this God-forsaken medical black-hole called Australia), well simply shafting you off to an Audiologist gets you out of the surgery quick before you ask any uncomfortable questions.

      Val, if that Audio doesn't know the difference between physiological tinnitus and pathological tinnitus, then he's just ripped you off (assuming you paid him). That's the second time I've seen this kind of thing reported here coming from so-called "Specialists". God, there's a long way to go.
       
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    20. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      Believe it or not I got $50 to come and have my ears checked there.
      They moved from one place to another so it must be some government initiative to get more clients. They give another $5o for referring someone so I took my daughter along!
      Crazy!
       
    21. Atlantis

      Atlantis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2014
      You actually got $100 for these visits ( your daughter didn't need an audiology visit meaning you gamed the system to profit another $50 ), yet you complain about it! The nerve...
       
    22. attheedgeofscience
      Uninvolved

      attheedgeofscience Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      Childhood
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Head Injury
      Just tell your tinnitus to get off at the next bus stop. Problem solved.
       
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    23. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      Except that habituation is really not a ''treatment'' for tinnitus as a neurological disorder. It treats the anxiety/fear that come as a result of the tinnitus. As of right now there is nothing to treat the source of the noise. Of course TRT scammers claim tinnitus is thing of the past because habituation. Many people bought that unfortunately.
       
    24. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      Excuse me! How dare you!
      I did not game the system!
      The system offered me money and if you refer a friend or family member you get $50.
      How is that gaming the system?
      Btw this is my regular place for ear testing so please tell me you wouldn't use this offer!
      Please save me from your rude and meaningless attacks once again!
       
    25. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      State Government thing? In Victoria you can get free hearing checks, but no follow-up that I know of and in Queensland the hearing bus goes around dishing out free aids to pensioners and the Indigenous.
       
    26. Song interpreter
      Creative

      Song interpreter Member

      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Too much noise
      My audiologist ignored any reference I made to my tinnitus. I mentioned it a few times. He didn't hear it... Of course I didn't hear those tones in my tinnitus range, the ringing was louder! So now I'm supposed to see the ENT, but I'm not sure anyone is working on that referral. Then I can get my hearing aid. Perhaps filling in my hearing loss will prevent more ringing. I hope this hearing aid is programmable for tinnitus. I have no clue. The audiologist seemed only interested in getting me qualified for hearing aids, but only one ear had enough loss to qualify.
       
    27. MikeP505
      Curious

      MikeP505 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Ontario Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Punishment for being so darn good looking!
      Good Luck!!! Keep us posted.
       
    28. HiThere

      HiThere Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/01/1975
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Delivery by forceps? Childhood ear infections?
      I went to an audiologist a few years ago. My hearing is fine, better than average in one ear. My T is multi-tonal so it's hard to pin down a solid notch, but seems to be closest overall to 7500Hz. Everyone does NOT have T. My wife and kids do not have it. I have had it all my life.

      The audiologist I saw did exactly as you describe; she wanted to sell me a masking therapy device that looked to be a small MP3 player with headphones and apparently would come pre-loaded with some masking sounds. If I recall correctly, the cost would have been....between $3,000-$4,000 to me. I was not interested.

      I also have hyperacusis and she told me I should desensitize by purposely subjecting myself to loud and even very loud noises and that very loud noises, if exposure is in moderation is not harmful in any way including cumulatively. Of course, the audiology clinic mainly sells hearing aids so if she's incorrect about cumulative damage, I'm sure she'd be happy to sell me hearing aids?

      Chris
       
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    29. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Sadly, many audiology chains are really franchises for overpriced equipment that doesn't really address the real issue.
       

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