Please Assure Me That Everything Will Be Better and That I Will Enjoy the Music Festival

Discussion in 'Support' started by Kar4, Oct 18, 2016.

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    1. Kar4
      Not worthy

      Kar4 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      I am going to visit a music festival this weekend. Two days of hard underground music. Would like to say I am looking forward, but...
      There is no problem with loud music, I will protect my ears of course and I know I will bear it.
      I am feeling depressed for last couple weeks. Having the worst time of this year, (or maybe of last few years). Tinnitus on a highest level, troubles around. I am not able to feel like I am looking forward to anything.

      What I need from You (and why I am posting this) are words of hope. Please assure me that everything will be better, I will enjoy the show, let troubles behind and things will turn back to normal.
       
    2. gotyoubynuts

      gotyoubynuts Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Concert
      just know that music festivals have made some people permanently worse even when wearing ear protection.

      don't come complain if your tinnitus worsens!
       
    3. MikeP505
      Curious

      MikeP505 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Ontario Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Punishment for being so darn good looking!
      Everything will be better and you will enjoy the music festival.
       
    4. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term NIHL and recent acoustic trauma
      You will enjoy the music festival - no question

      The problem will start as soon as you leave the hall and find out that you have even louder T - at why which point the enjoyment part ends abruptly

      That is if you have noise induced T
      If not then yes no issue protect your ears and it will be fine after that too
       
    5. Sam Bridge

      Sam Bridge Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music/gigs probably
      I am sure mine is noise induced, went to two concerts in march with alpine musicians plugs. No change in T.
       
    6. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term NIHL and recent acoustic trauma
      He did say hard underground concert

      Just because you had no issues doesn't mean much either ..that's a silly advice
       
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    7. Sam Bridge

      Sam Bridge Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music/gigs probably
      Just sharing my experience thats all. I didn't advise anyone.
       
    8. Kar4
      Not worthy

      Kar4 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      My T never gets louder after listening live music with protection. It only changes time to time without any noticeable reasons.
       
    9. Kazue

      Kazue Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/19/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I would invest in some pelton x5a if you're that concerned. It offers up to 30-35 NPR protection. I'm not sure if you can wear earplugs under them though. If the music is 120 db then it can easily go down to 90 db and then to 80-70 db with earplugs under them. It's still loud but it's only a one time thing and you can be exposed to it longer.
       
    10. James White
      Anime

      James White Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Toulouse, France
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe loud music. Not sure.
      Well i've had very loud events these last few years and it did absolutely nothing to my tinnitus, with or without earplugs.

      I'm seriously starting to think tinnitus is just random, you never know.

      I feel like your question is like asking if you're going to have a car accident because you had one a few years before. If you have earplugs, what can you do more ? :)
       
    11. Foncky
      Doubtful

      Foncky Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      An explosion, music, and fate.
      Wait a few years. You will find out that T is not so random after exposure to loud events.

      And he can do more : he can avoid the show. Maybe switch to acoustic jazz or something ? ;)
      But Kar is certainly aware of the risks so... His decision.
       
    12. RAY
      Lurking

      RAY Member

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus in left ear
      Your Tinnitus was caused by Acoustic Trauma and your going to a concert its your decision of course, but I would steer clear it would seem a strange decision to make if you went ahead
       
    13. Jomo

      Jomo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      9/4/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      going for a rim shot on the snare drum.
      Ok for reference you have musicians out there that still perform..the lead singer from coldplay has T....the lead singer and drummer of metallica have T...they all continue to perform...now i know everyone has diff levels of T and hyperacusis is the trump card...make sure you know how to properly fit the ear plugs...i think you will be ok but stay away from speakers and the stage..please let us know how it goes...also if tou have time look into custom fitted pluggs if you can...i just ordered mine last week...takes 3 weeks
       
    14. Julien87
      Balanced

      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Exposure to loud sound (concert)
      Up to you to take the risk or not. But you have to know that this kind of event can worsen your T for life.
      This weekend may be a turning point in your life..

      Sorry, this is probably not what you wanted to hear but I really think it's the truth.
      And don't be depressed because of that, you can live a happy life without listening to loud live music for a full weekend ;)

      Although, if you are really sure and decide to go there anyway, just enjoy and try not to think of potential issues...
       
    15. LadyDi
      Busy

      LadyDi Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Barotrauma/airplane
      I think a lot of the advice here is pretty good, @Kar4 -- even if its not exactly what you want to hear.

      Will "everything be better," as you asked? Yes, hopefully, it can be. But you need to take responsibility for helping to make that happen. I would say that going to an "underground" music concert, even with ear protection, isn't going to send you down the improvement path longterm. And you do have a choice here. It's not like needing surgery but not wanting to have anesthesia because anesthetics can induce tinnitus.

      Still, others have a different opinion and the choice is yours. My wish is that if you do go, you relax and enjoy it. Make it worth the risk, at least.
       
    16. Hopeful1
      Depressed

      Hopeful1 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music
      Let me be blunt....it will damage your ears for sure......if you are lucky you may not see any noticable difference...if you are not then you will have to suffers months before you get used to the new high!

      Choice is yours....would would want to take the risk.....are ear not others things in life to enjoy like walking in woods...watching wildlife...etc?

      You say you dont know why you got your T......well it is not difficult to tell....have you been loud clubs before? Or had antibotics which are toxic to there for long duration?.......if the answer is yes to any of the 2 then that is the answer.

      It does not matter why you got T in the first place it will get worse with noise...ther is member here who did not get T from noise but from antibiotcs but aggavated it by going to club one day.

      Hope i made you change your decision...did I???
       
    17. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      long term NIHL and recent acoustic trauma
      Noise is the "silent killer" until it becomes the "silence killer" -

      damage happens and is hidden , cumulative and not noticeable at first until you go to that last one concert/club at which point the T pops up louder and there is no way back by then it's too late.

      And if you go, don't use those so called musician earplugs - those let the damaging high frequencies in so you get more damage than good foam plugs like the moldex meteor..
       
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    18. Karl28
      Wishful

      Karl28 Member

      Location:
      Melbourne
      Tinnitus Since:
      2001 bad since 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music via headphones
      Sounds kinda risky....

      Is 2 days of fun worth days or weeks or forever louder tinnitus?
       
    19. Greg Clarke

      Greg Clarke Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Wicklow, Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, Live Music
      A lot of the advice is coming from people who don't attend concerts and in my opinion is very negative.

      I'd go to the festival, just be careful, take many breaks, wear ear plugs and don't stand too close to the stage.

      I have been to many concerts since I have gotten tinnitus and I'm doing ok. I have tinnitus ten years and aquired it by acoustic trauma. I could have spent the last ten years not going to gigs but music is a huge part of my life so I cant give it up.

      Make your own decision. Don't base it on opinions of peole that don't have experience with it.
       
    20. Hopeful1
      Depressed

      Hopeful1 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music
      So we dont have any experience or knowledge.....you are the only one who has experience that counts.

      Since your experience is different from others our experiences are not real....how logical???
       
    21. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise..no idea.. unicorns?
      All of this is purely based upon DBs. Get a few apps for your phone, and monitor the app. Wear good plugs, and if its starting to regularly hit an average above 90DB make sure your plugs are in tight and take breaks :)
       
    22. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Go for it, if it gets worse, at least you have some good times to remember while you suffer. I rember the night I made my T worse and developed H, was a awesome night !!
       
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    23. Hopeful1
      Depressed

      Hopeful1 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Music
      We dont know for sure what levels are safe and how accurate are apps...i wuold only trust a proper sound meter.

      Current audiogram cannot test many things like loss of high thershold fibers....ability to hear in noisy environment as a result OHC damage....so no one knows exactly what levels will cause damage....and succeptabiliy of partially damaged synapsis......no way to do it risk free.

      And OP want to it 2 days straight that is exposing to further damage before the hair cells and synapsis can fully recover from the first night!!!!
       
    24. Jason C

      Jason C Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      29 May 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Burgler Alarm
      It obviously depends how much damage was done by acoustic trauma, I can't even listen too music as it all sounds broken let alone think about going to a festival.
       
    25. Foncky
      Doubtful

      Foncky Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      An explosion, music, and fate.
      You're right. No one has experience with a worsened T because of noise here.
       
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    26. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise..no idea.. unicorns?
      I agree. I suppose if you use a few different apps, you can form a genuine guide. I personally think 2 days might be a bit much as stated here; but if the OP wants to go all we can do is provide practical advice to lessen the chance of issues :) It's also very obvious to say that because we are tinnitus suffers we probably at times because over/extra cautious about many situations that would probably never actually cause damage. I was in a restaurant the other day for a few hours which was probably not over 50DB and freaking out!! haha.
       
    27. Philemon

      Philemon Member Benefactor

      Location:
      France/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild NIHL
      @Bobby B To my understanding, musician earplugs stop the high frequencies almost as they stop other frequencies (that's what they are designed for, to provide an even reduction of Db across freqeuncies, i.e. to preserve the nature/quality of the sound), Look at charts like the figure 3 here :

      http://www.hearingreview.com/2014/07/high-notes-musicians-earplugs/

      In fact, it is more the other way round, it is conventional earplugs that reduce sound more in the high frequencies than in the low and mid frequencies, which makes music and voices unclear and unnatural.

      So if the idea is to have some kind of protection while still being able to enjoy the music, it is easy to choose between the two kind of earplugs.
      Furthermore, if it is true that the deprivation of some frequencies (because of hearing loss) makes the brain needs to compensate for this loss by generating tinnitus, I can't help to wonder if blocking more the high frequencies than the other ones (knowing that generally tinnitus is high-pitched) is really a good idea, especially for daily protection for example. I mean, according to this 'theory' of brain compensation for the frequencies you don't hear well enough, further deprovationcould presumably makes your tinnitus worse, if your T is high-pitched
       

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