TMJ / TMD and Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Support' started by I Hate T, Jun 8, 2015.

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    1. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      I have had nonstop ringing in my ears for quite some time. While I am an avid headphone user, which includes listening to music and video game audio, I have not had enough time to develop.

      I do have a mild case of TMJ / TMD and I have read and heard from a doctor that, that can be the source of the sound.

      I am rather curious about the feeling in my ears. At times I can feel liquid in my ears, though there is none. I feel a dull pain within my ears all the time, perhaps a repercussion of inflammation? At times, my ears have this spike of pain in them, which goes away rather fast (pain occurs in silent areas, so it audio induced pain is factored out). When I move my jaw, I can feel pressure being released off my ears, and when I open my mouth as wide as I can, the frequency of the sneering / ringing is toned down just a bit.

      Hearing tests yield the condition of my hearing to be excellent and factor out the possibility that my T is the cause of acoustic trauma.

      For those of you who have T due to ear damage, do your ears exhibit these symptoms? And, if you have TMJ / TMD, do you ears do the same?

      Thank you! :)
       
    2. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      I have those symptoms all the time as well, in the ear where my TMJ is very badly worn out (the panoramic X-RAY was very conclusive even to the untrained eye the probably was very obvious). Many people on here do in fact. It seems like common symptoms for damaged ears I guess.

      I also experience a feeling like some liquid trickles down or melts inside my ear altough I do not have inflammation/fluid in the middle ear.

      As far as my hearing goes it is 0 db all across the board in the 250-12000 hz region and some 30 db hearing loss at 16 khz (I did high frequency audiogram)
       
    3. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Hmm. I am not too sure about what to think. It is possible that my T is induced by damage, but then I have to ask, "Is majority of ear damage T very, very loud?". My T is only mild and easily ignorable, besides when I am trying to sleep. The only thing that makes it bad is OCD.

      Everyone I know with ear damage T complains of extremely loud noises.
       
    4. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      Tinnitus loudness is subjective and has never been correlated with the amount of hearing loss/hearing damage.
       
    5. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Hmm, interesting to know.
       
    6. Yes I have TMJD and yes I have experienced all of those symptoms.
       
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    7. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Sweet? That lightens my mind riddled with fear. Is your T extremely loud or is it permissible?

      I hope you are couping well with it, by the way.
       
    8. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Oh and another question, at times when you move your jaw, do you feel a tickle in your ears?
       
    9. Thank you!! :)

      I'm coping just fine with my T atm. I also have hyperacusis that is more debilitating. My T varies with pain and flares..I'd say it's mild to moderate..just depends on my pain.
       
    10. Yes. My ears do all sorts of crazy things. They are messed up!
       
    11. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Sorry, for my OCD and anxiety sake, is that an affirmative response to my question? Or, are you saying yes they are messed up in general?
       
    12. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Jeez, hyperacusis does not sound like fun! I am hypersensitive by nature, but I cannot imagine the pain of hyperacusis!
       
    13. Np :) Ya sometimes..and sometimes sharp stabbing pains that scare me. Advil and heat takes care of that.
       
    14. Yea dude it sucks.
       
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    15. I would find a good neuromuscular dentist and get evaluated. Ear issues require a splint or TrP therapy or both.

      TMJD can pretty difficult to treat and costly depending what route you go...Ear issues are said to be last to go.

      I read a positive story last night of a lady who had TMJ induced hearing loss and after 2 years of splint therapy her hearing was finally coming back! I thought that was pretty cool.
       
    16. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      I have already met with a doctor. I am getting treatment as soon as possible. I was told that the ear issues would go away last, sadly. But, at least it will, hopefully! :D
       
    17. I hope it does! Just be patient and do lots of research :)
       
    18. I Hate T
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      I Hate T Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Haha, I have done nothing but research since this condition plagued me. I hope it goes away. *fingers crossed*
       
    19. ugh no doubt! 2 years of research for me..but 11 years of tmjd.
       
    20. Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      If I may ask, what are your LDLs?
       
    21. Well last year when tested..65 in right ear and 75 in left. They have flucuated since that test but I'd say now are probably the same on good days and very low in setbacks... (can't tolerate my voice or any conversation )
       
    22. ruben ruiz

      ruben ruiz Member

      Location:
      Tucson, AZ
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I believe it was meds and stress
      Lynn 35 sorry for your pain. You appear young and maybe some relief or a cure is coming.
      I had H pretty bad than I managed to quit trazadon amd tapering venlafaxine the H got a little better.
      Bless us all.
       
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    23. Uri38

      Uri38 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      I thought I would chime in to this thread and hopefully can help the author.

      Back in March, I woke up one day with buzzing sounds, the next day a bad ring which seemed to come from the left at times difficult to point out. Within a 2-4 days I noticed a clicking on the my left tmj when chewing, especially in the morning or when trying to open wide, there was no pain though. Then neck and should pain, on the left side, and limited range of motion in the neck. Went to see an ENT who said my ringing could be due to alergies was on flonase for 3-4 weeks with no help, went back he said it could be an E tube problem and would take months to solve. He did run a audio test all good. Anyone I didn't buy it so went to a different ENT said I could have an infection, took 10 days of antibiotics, nothing. My regular doc ordered a brain/brain stem MRI with contrast as well as ears, nothing found.
      By then I had developed a few other symptoms, dull ear aches that would come and go not lasting very long. Very itchy ears, at times my ears would feel "cloggy" a mild sense of fullness.
      I was desperate, went to see another ear PA (not an MD nor ENT) he said I had some symptoms of TMJ. By then the clicking in the jaw was better, didn't really hear it anymore, my neck was feeling better.
      He send me to a dentist specialist and physical therapy. The dentist took some X-rays and examine me and said I did have a TMJ issue, my jaw was not closing evenly. He put me on a TENS machine for 45 minutes, next day I felt much better with almost no "noise". A few days later it came back though. I finally got the teeth splint, after 3 days using it I noticed an improvement the noise quieted down, about the only time I heard it was laying down.

      If I open my jaw even a little I can hear the tone change, if I move my neck down and up it also changes, if I put my fist under my chin with little resistance and try to open the noise increases.
      Not sure if this helps you, my TMJ case is mild as my joint doesn't pop out of the socket. My teeth especially a very high crown was causing a bad bite which maybe the cause of the TMJ issue.
       

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