What Happens After Someone Suicides or Dies?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jdjd09, Apr 6, 2016.

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    1. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      So, my question is what do people think happens ? Also is there any studies or good evidence that gives hints what happens?

      I know a university in Virginia has done 1000+ case studies on reincarnation, and it done by medical branch of the university.

      Just curious is all.
       
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    2. attheedgeofscience
      Uninvolved

      attheedgeofscience Member Hall of Fame

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      Nothing. The end. Forever after.
       
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    3. Zora
      Kick ass

      Zora Member

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      I mean...like you said there are tons of Theories. And I Do wish that there was an afterlife with all the people I love so much. It is hard to believe that there comes nothing afterwards, people are scared of that. and thats how churches sell themselves to people and say they have answers for it. which they dont.
      no one has 100% proven answer
      But I believe there comes nothing after. nothing.
       
    4. aniketpatil
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      aniketpatil Member

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      Nothing we are just dead. Unless somebody takes out your DNA and do some cloning stuff . You will be alive again.
       
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    5. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

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      I like to think of a beautiful place full of love and laughter and having friends and family their to welcome you with open arms ......lots of love glynis
       
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    6. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      While I can appreciate everyone going to the default of we don't know so there for nothing, I think this isn't studied enough to say that, just as one can't really say something without evidence either.

      I can see life happened here. So who is to say that can't happen again in some form or another? There are case studies that hint it does happen too, at the university I mentioned. Is it 100% proof? No. But it definetly needs to be studied more.

      Does anyone know of any other studies on this?
       
    7. snow86
      Surrender

      snow86 Member Benefactor

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      You're not gonna stop with these threads are you?
      In every thread you open on TT you are lookin for the "OK" to kill yourself, based on some internet posts.
      In your other thread you asked for advice, people took their time and posted you super long answers and you dont even read them. Even if these answers came from people who where in your shoes (people of your age with T& hearing loss, hearing aids) But you chose to ignore it and just went on opening more threads.

      This is your second thread about suicide within a week (The last one was "how many people on TT commited suicide) or so and you made it pretty clear that you dont even have debilitating tinnitus and some medium hearing loss.

      seeing your senseless posts make me even more mad because a TT user with a debilitating T and a condition which made her bedridden (sadly a real reason wanting to die, unlike you) probably left this world the last days (I hope not).


      @Markku Can you stop this nonsense please? Jdj09 needs to stop this.
       
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    8. eldudebro
      Doh

      eldudebro Member

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      The only certainty is, you'll be dead.

      If there is anything after death, well that is unknown. How could we know?
       
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    9. undecided
      Fine

      undecided Member

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      What, you mean like my grandparents are gonna be there all happy that I died and stuff?
      "HEY UNDECIDED, GREAT TO SEE YOU BEING DEAD AND ALL, GIVE OLD GRANDPA A HUG EH?"
      Whatever, it sounds noisy. Better have some earplugs handy.
       
    10. bill 112
      Studious

      bill 112 Member

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      I'm getting tired of seeing these suicide threads now,seriously Jdjd give it a rest.Im borderline right now and seeing this shit pop up everyday is not good for my or anyone's self esteem.
      I get it believe me I do,I've done the very same thing your doing now,endlessly looking for proof of something better after this life,and guess what,I'm no wiser now than I was then.Asking people here isn't going to hail any answers,unless of course Jesus is a TT member that is.I wish you the best man,I really do but please get help,pm me if you need someone to talk to.
      Bill.
       
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    11. glynis-harbron
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      @undecided,
      My thoughts are my thoughts and hope their is life after death ...... I can but hope ....lots of love glynis
       
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    12. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      I'm asking a legit question...I'm not saying I'm doing anything...if you don't like the thread then don't read it.
       
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    13. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      Sorry you're having issues, but I'm asking out of curiosity. It's a legit question and I'm sorry the question bothers you, I would recommend ignoring the thread.
       
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    14. Alue

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      There is no evidence for any afterlife/reincarnation/etc. therefore the most likely conclusion is nothing. The burden of proof would lie on any claims to there being an afterlife.

      I wish reincarnation were true, if it was I would be tempted to roll the dice myself, but I am certain it is not. This is the only shot we got. I was dealt a pretty shitty hand in life too, not just tinnitus, but a lot of other things that have had a permanent effect on my quality of life.
       
    15. John G

      John G Member

      There is no reason to put suicide in the title of this thread.
       
    16. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      Actually, in this case, the burdon of proof lies in anyone saying any claim really. I would arge even those say "nothing", because really that is a theory of something in this case. Stating you cease to be consciously is a claim that is not nothing. I think people on both sides are a little too accepting of there own answers or conclusions without any serious study I can think of in the subject.

      Bu, then again, I may be missing some studies I'm not aware of.
       
    17. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      I'm listing one of the ways. Yes dieing covers suicides , car accidents, etc.. I just chose to include the world to put emphasis on it. Maybe there was a study or research done specifically on that type of death.
       
    18. Dubbyaman
      Angry

      Dubbyaman Member

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      There's a movie called "Heaven Is For Real" about a kid who dies for a time then comes back and tells his dad stuff he couldn't of known. A popular overnight radio program called "Coast to Coast am" has had people on from time to time claiming to have remembered past lives. A neurosurgeon wrote a book about dying and having an afterlife experience. Mediums claim they can talk to the dead and they can be scary accurate in some of their readings every now and then. All these are easy victims of nay say because there's no proof to back it up. I would probably take the chance if I knew for sure because this life of noise is crap. LOUD NOISE! My T measures at about 70db on a bad day.
       
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    19. Fangen
      Playful

      Fangen Member Benefactor

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      I want to tattoo in two sentences, not sure if I will do it since I have no idea where and if it will happen.

      "Memento Mori" - Remember that you will die / that you are deadly / remember your mortality
      "Memento Viviere" - Remember to live

      I wanted intially to have the first one only, to remember my own mortality or rather, vulnerability (since onset of T and all that comes with it).
      Then I saw some where, "Memento Viviere" and I realized that before you die, you have to live. So we should remember that we are deadly, not immune to being harmed, but we cannot let that take over, we still need to live and be alive before death eventually takes us (of old age!) :)
       
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    20. Zora
      Kick ass

      Zora Member

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      @Fangen why viviere? shouldt it be "vivere" ? thats the infinitiv. and the direct translation of "memento vivere" means "I remember to live". Sorry lol but I have just seen to many people tatooing wrong grammar on their bodies :D I am not too sure either, just wanted to make sure if you know ?
       
    21. Fangen
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      I think I mispelled :D Vivere is correct :)
      I don't know really, that is what I have seen everywhere so I would assume it is correct but you never know :)
      But the overall message is to remember to live, I think "I remember to live" works for me too! Not saying that I am going through the tattoo, since it took me like 5 years between my second one to my third one that I did last summer. :D
       
    22. Fangen
      Playful

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      @Zora
      Oh I found this! "Memora vivere" - that is acutally "remember to live" :D
      So Memento Mori and Memora vivere!
       
    23. undecided
      Fine

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      Why is everyone so intent on staying alive after dying.
      I mean, I'm a Bee Gees fan and all but after 90 I suppose I'll be glad to be checking out, unless I get to inherit Hugh Hefner's mansion or something.
       
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    24. Reinier
      Not amused

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      Think about eternal life. To start, we are not able to understand the concept of eternal.
      What will you do al the time? Some people are already bored in this finite life. The idea of eternal is infernal.
       
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    25. Dutchy
      Not worthy

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      *Pump up the volume*

      Who wants to go to heaven?sitting on a cloud all day,looking around and got shit to do.It's fucking boring.
       
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    26. matt89
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      matt89 Member Benefactor Team Tech Team Awareness

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      Agree.
      @jdjd09 watch the video below and please don't open any further threads about suicide and death.
      You can do it in other forums more appropriate to these topics like https://www.suicideforum.com/community/.
      This forum is here to support longstanding and new T sufferers.
      It should provide a possitive attitude related to the condition T and not information about suicide and death.

      Rock Church - Life Without Limbs - Nick...
       
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    27. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

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      Not yet had Nessus reached the other side,
      When we had put ourselves within a wood,
      That was not marked by any path whatever.
      Not foliage green, but of a dusky colour,
      Not branches smooth, but gnarled and intertangled,
      Not apple-trees were there, but thorns with poison.
      Such tangled thickets have not, nor so dense,
      Those savage wild beasts, that in hatred hold
      'Twixt Cecina and Corneto the tilled places.
      There do the hideous Harpies make their nests,
      Who chased the Trojans from the Strophades,
      With sad announcement of impending doom;
      Broad wings have they, and necks and faces human,
      And feet with claws, and their great bellies fledged;
      They make laments upon the wondrous trees.
      And the good Master: "Ere thou enter farther,
      Know that thou art within the second round,"
      Thus he began to say, "and shalt be, till
      Thou comest out upon the horrible sand;
      Therefore look well around, and thou shalt see
      Things that will credence give unto my speech."
      I heard on all sides lamentations uttered,
      And person none beheld I who might make them,
      Whence, utterly bewildered, I stood still.
      I think he thought that I perhaps might think
      So many voices issued through those trunks
      From people who concealed themselves from us;
      Therefore the Master said: "If thou break off
      Some little spray from any of these trees,
      The thoughts thou hast will wholly be made vain."
      Then stretched I forth my hand a little forward,
      And plucked a branchlet off from a great thorn;
      And the trunk cried, "Why dost thou mangle me?"
      After it had become embrowned with blood,
      It recommenced its cry: "Why dost thou rend me?
      Hast thou no spirit of pity whatsoever?
      Men once we were, and now are changed to trees;
      Indeed, thy hand should be more pitiful,
      Even if the souls of serpents we had been."
      As out of a green brand, that is on fire
      At one of the ends, and from the other drips
      And hisses with the wind that is escaping;
      So from that splinter issued forth together
      Both words and blood; whereat I let the tip
      Fall, and stood like a man who is afraid.
      "Had he been able sooner to believe,"
      My Sage made answer, "O thou wounded soul,
      What only in my verses he has seen,
      Not upon thee had he stretched forth his hand;
      Whereas the thing incredible has caused me
      To put him to an act which grieveth me.
      But tell him who thou wast, so that by way
      Of some amends thy fame he may refresh
      Up in the world, to which he can return."
      And the trunk said: "So thy sweet words allure me,
      I cannot silent be; and you be vexed not,
      That I a little to discourse am tempted.
      I am the one who both keys had in keeping
      Of Frederick's heart, and turned them to and fro
      So softly in unlocking and in locking,
      That from his secrets most men I withheld;
      Fidelity I bore the glorious office
      So great, I lost thereby my sleep and pulses.
      The courtesan who never from the dwelling
      Of Caesar turned aside her strumpet eyes,
      Death universal and the vice of courts,
      Inflamed against me all the other minds,
      And they, inflamed, did so inflame Augustus,
      That my glad honours turned to dismal mournings.
      My spirit, in disdainful exultation,
      Thinking by dying to escape disdain,
      Made me unjust against myself, the just.
      I, by the roots unwonted of this wood,
      Do swear to you that never broke I faith
      Unto my lord, who was so worthy of honour;
      And to the world if one of you return,
      Let him my memory comfort, which is lying
      Still prostrate from the blow that envy dealt it."
      Waited awhile, and then: "Since he is silent,"
      The Poet said to me, "lose not the time,
      But speak, and question him, if more may please thee."
      Whence I to him: "Do thou again inquire
      Concerning what thou thinks't will satisfy me;
      For I cannot, such pity is in my heart."
      Therefore he recommenced: "So may the man
      Do for thee freely what thy speech implores,
      Spirit incarcerate, again be pleased
      To tell us in what way the soul is bound
      Within these knots; and tell us, if thou canst,
      If any from such members e'er is freed."
      Then blew the trunk amain, and afterward
      The wind was into such a voice converted:
      "With brevity shall be replied to you.
      When the exasperated soul abandons
      The body whence it rent itself away,
      Minos consigns it to the seventh abyss.
      It falls into the forest, and no part
      Is chosen for it; but where Fortune hurls it,
      There like a grain of spelt it germinates.
      It springs a sapling, and a forest tree;
      The Harpies, feeding then upon its leaves,
      Do pain create, and for the pain an outlet.
      Like others for our spoils shall we return;
      But not that any one may them revest,
      For 'tis not just to have what one casts off.
      Here we shall drag them, and along the dismal
      Forest our bodies shall suspended be,
      Each to the thorn of his molested shade."
      We were attentive still unto the trunk,
      Thinking that more it yet might wish to tell us,
      When by a tumult we were overtaken,
      In the same way as he is who perceives
      The boar and chase approaching to his stand,
      Who hears the crashing of the beasts and branches;
      And two behold! upon our left-hand side,
      Naked and scratched, fleeing so furiously,
      That of the forest, every fan they broke.
      He who was in advance: "Now help, Death, help!"
      And the other one, who seemed to lag too much,
      Was shouting: "Lano, were not so alert
      Those legs of thine at joustings of the Toppo!"
      And then, perchance because his breath was failing,
      He grouped himself together with a bush.
      Behind them was the forest full of black
      She-mastiffs, ravenous, and swift of foot
      As greyhounds, who are issuing from the chain.
      On him who had crouched down they set their teeth,
      And him they lacerated piece by piece,
      Thereafter bore away those aching members.
      Thereat my Escort took me by the hand,
      And led me to the bush, that all in vain
      Was weeping from its bloody lacerations.
      "O Jacopo," it said, "of Sant' Andrea,
      What helped it thee of me to make a screen?
      What blame have I in thy nefarious life?"
      When near him had the Master stayed his steps,
      He said: "Who wast thou, that through wounds so many
      Art blowing out with blood thy dolorous speech?"
      And he to us: "O souls, that hither come
      To look upon the shameful massacre
      That has so rent away from me my leaves,
      Gather them up beneath the dismal bush;
      I of that city was which to the Baptist
      Changed its first patron, wherefore he for this
      Forever with his art will make it sad.
      And were it not that on the pass of Arno
      Some glimpses of him are remaining still,
      Those citizens, who afterwards rebuilt it
      Upon the ashes left by Attila,
      In vain had caused their labour to be done.
      Of my own house I made myself a gibbet."



       
    28. baz 22
      Alone

      baz 22 Member

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      01/2016
      In my opinion life is a test. There are many hurdles you have to overcome. If you commit suicide, you fail that test.

      There are many people with horrible afflictions in life. Yet they still go on.

      If someone kills themself, they throw away a gift called life. Where they end up I don't know.

      Hell, heaven, nothing. All i know is , I want to make sure I have done some good in my life before i go. Cause there is no turning back.

      :rockingbanana:
       
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    29. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      Is there any general scientific studies on reincarnation or what come s next. I know university of Virginia has a department dedicated on the study or reincarnation , and have lots of cases that provide evidence of for reincarnation for some people. Even a famous scientist stated the evidence from that college is so vast that hard to not take it as random advance and seemed to believe what the studies are showing.

      A reset button needs to get hit for me.
       
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    30. Beste
      Disappointed

      Beste Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/16/2016
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      Benzo/Clonazepam, Stress
      I do not know what will happen but I hope we will go to somewhere without any tinnitus cases.
       
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