Why Is It So Loud?

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    1. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      What am I missing here?my hearing is normal. I don't struggle to hear over it. I can't hear it in a grocery store or restaurant, etc. Sometimes, i can't even hear it outside. Yet this t is so loud. In a quiet room it's like an alarm going off. I hear it loudly anywhere without background noise. I feel like it's getting louder, yet my hearing is not getting any worse. Do other people have this experience? I can't figure out what is going on here.
       
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    2. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Why is normal hearing? If you have T you have hearing loss.
       
    3. Mario martz
      Creative

      Mario martz Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      Im not quite sure, as far as i know i have a great hearing, i can hear pretty well.
      with both ears, i can even hear long distance conversations.
      and yes when im all alone in an quiet room, the noise can be so loud in my left ear like an alarm.
      its just so damn weird.
       
    4. Mario martz
      Creative

      Mario martz Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      Im not quite sure, as far as i know i have a great hearing, i can hear pretty well.
      with both ears, i can even hear long distance conversations.
      and yes when im all alone in an quiet room, the noise can be so loud in my left ear like an alarm.
      its just so damn weird.
       
    5. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Have you tried an extended audiogram? For example, one that goes to 12.5khz or 16khz? Most go to 8khz.
       
    6. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      No, I haven't. How would that help?
       
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    7. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      It might help. If you have hearing loss between 8 khz and 12 khz you can get an extended bandwidth hearing aid which may reduce the ringing. If so, you could put it on in quiet areas. The Siemens Pure Binax 7bx and the Signia Pure Primax 7px are two hearing aids that can be programmed up to 12khz. There may be others as well. Many places will give you a trial period on any hearing aids you buy. To get an extended audiogram you will probably have to call around to see who gives them or you might have to go to an ENT to get one. I don't know if this solution will help but it might be worth a shot if it is really bothering you. Another alternative is to put fountains or something in the quiet rooms of your house.
       
    8. RB2014
      Confused

      RB2014 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2014 became noticable
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loss of hearing and then stress and anxiety
      Agreed with JasonP. If you have good hearing, get some background noise going 24/7. Don't go looking for the T anywhere. Stay away from quiet places. If you can not hear it enough you may forget you have it.
       
    9. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Thanks. Well, this sound isn't higher than 8khz. I'd say it's somewhere between 1 and 2 kHz. That is if the sound corresponds with some sort of loss. We have an air filter running in our house which is pretty loud, so I can only clearly hear it in a few rooms. When I go in those rooms it's like I'm being hit with a wave of loud noise. I hear it when I am at other people's houses and anywhere there generally isn't too much background noise. If there isn't any background noise sometimes it:s as loud a someone talking. I could look into a hearing aid but they are really expensive. I guess I am wondering is this just what tinnitus is or is mine really bad? When people talk about their ears ringing this is definitely not what I thought they were experiencing.
       
    10. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Hmmm...you might want to call an ENT. What does your audiogram look like?
       
    11. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Why do say hmmm? I have an ENT, actually a neurologist. He doesn't know what is wrong with me. Idk how to describe my audiogram.
       
    12. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      So, what is normal tinnitus like? Maybe I'll post and ask.
       
    13. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Here is an example of an audiogram: http://www.hear-it.org/Audiogram-
      Is everything above 10 in your audiogram?

      There is various different sounds to tinnitus:
      British Tinnitus Association - Sounds of Tinnitus
       
    14. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      The article says that anything 25db and above is normal which I have heard before. The words on the chart are printed in the range of loss not where it starts. The numbers in my audiogram 20 and above, if that helps.
       
    15. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Ask if the hearing aid place can program a hearing aid to correct you to 0 since you have tinnitus and see if it goes away...another thing you could do is if that does not work is have them put a little extra amplification where you tinnitus is but make sure it can never be amplified above a safe level.
       
    16. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Seems worth a shot. I have asked about a hearing aid before but they act like I am crazy. I am deaf in the other ear so you would think that would make sense to them that I want to get the most out of what I have. I also wonder if my tinnitus seems louder because I don't hear out of the other ear. I have never had some of the problems associated with single sided deafness, such as not being able to separate background sounds from people talking. I wonder if my brain is just working over time to compensate for some tiny loss.
       
    17. Jesse Pinkman

      Jesse Pinkman Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2011
      Around 90% of tinnitus cases are connected to hearing loss. Tinnitus can have many causes. You can have tinnitus without any damage to the auditory system. For example brain tumors, neurological disorders etc.
       
    18. JasonP

      JasonP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2006
      Oh okay as long as the tinnitus is in the non deaf ear I think it would help. Go to a hearing aid specialist and tell them what you want and tell them you need it for tinnitus.
       
    19. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Yeah the tinnitus is in my hearing ear. My deaf ear is totally quiet. Proof that tinnitus is no measure of hearing ability;)
       
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    20. Alue

      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      II doubt it's 90%. If you look at the TRI survey taken here with over 5000 participants, the majority have little to no hearing loss.
       
    21. Gosia
      Balanced

      Gosia Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      earplugs/ hearing loss
      And the majority has never checked their hearing above 8khz, which means they only think they have no hearing loss. They may not have substantial hearing loss and be under the impression that they hear perfectly because we are not aware of the small hearing loss, yet it's enough for the T to appear. There 's no direct relation between the gravity of T and the gravity of hearing loss. You may have a tiny hearing loss and giant T and the other way round. Is it really 90% of cases related to hearing loss? That depends on which source you choose to believe. I don't think think there are ver precise data about it. I read that in majority of case the cause is not sure. You can only be sure that hearing loss is related when you get T as a result of acoustic trauma. All the other cases - who knows? And does it change anything for us ? I had the same hearing loss far before T appeared and after. What was the trigger ? I will never know.
       
    22. Alue

      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      O' I agree the severity of T is not related to the severity of hearing loss. I have fairly loud constant T (only the shower masks it) that was caused by a single acoustic trauma, but I have no detectable hearing loss and I've had fairly extensive hearing tests.

      The frustrating thing is, it's not even considered a hearing injury or disability (happened at work) unless there is hearing loss involved. I would rather have some hearing loss with no T than this.
       
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    23. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I so understand. Mine is getting so much worse. I can't even believe it.
       
    24. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      You T is same as mine...it can be masked easily but in a quit room it is loud. I took me 2 years to realize why?
      It is because my brain never had the change to get used to it because it was masked so easily. So when I entered a quiet room it came full force at me.
      What I did is make sure that I always had a smartphone with me with bird sounds on it. So I never was in a complete quiet room. Also you amygdala can be triggered the moment you enter a quiet room. You start to fear quiet rooms in your subconscious which make you T much worse the moment you get in a quiet room.

      My T was a 10/10 for sure and last months it was a 1 or 2 ...now it is a 3 or 4 on a scale of 10, but when I enter a quiet room my T is not 10/10 anymore like it used to be. I lost the fear for it and my brain adjusted so it knew it did not had to focus on my T the whole time in a quiet room. I am still not there and suffer from OCD...and that is not good if you have T also because I get periods I get completely obsessed about my T again which makes it louder.

      Is this normal T ...well yes I guess so....for most people I talk to it is much louder in a quiet room. For me it filled my whole head in a quiet room and it seemed it was getting louder and louder. And because I also have H...it happend to be that my own T was hurting my ears in a quiet room. :grumpy: But it all backed down a little...
      I am almost 3 years in now, but it seems like for ever with T. But important is to loose the fear, get rid of anxiety and for god sake do not monitor your T ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      And no this does not work for everybody...tinnitus can come from a lot of sources but if you recognize your T in what I have written this properly would help.
       
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    25. Jkph75

      Jkph75 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/27/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      @RicoS

      Yes, it sounds a lot like me. Do you take Zoloft for your OCD? If so, did it help the tinnitus?
       
    26. Mike TerMaaten

      Mike TerMaaten Member Benefactor

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 20, 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      2013 GMC Sierra pickup truck
      jkph75
      Have you ever been in a 2012 or 2013 GM Truck ? ( that can be a Chevy Silverado or GMC Sierra 2012 or 2013

      They had a Horrible high pitched electronic squeel coming from the Delphi Radio.

      Research GM Bulletin # PIT5166C

      Tinnitus caused by that is Hell in a quiet room

      Also, if you think your T. is getting worse, stop eating any Fast Food ( MSG )
      and control/ limit your exposure to electrical Audio

      If you got any questions, please ask..
       
    27. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      No I do not take Zoloft. I know it is an anxiety disorder so I try to overcome the fear of it. I do have Lexapro though, but I never took it. I keep making progress and I do not want to worsen my T with an AD. I know it is not a guarantee that it would worsen and perhaps even fix my OCD problems faster, but I am just scared because of all the horror stories about AD's, but than again...if you search the internet you can find horror stories regarding everything, but it is just what sticks with you. I start CBT on monday for my OCD but I guess I know a lot already, but it never hurts to get help.
       

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