Running (Exercise in General) and Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Support' started by RichT, Jun 1, 2013.

    1. RichT
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      RichT Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/09/2000
      Hi all,

      Does anyone have any experience of running causing their tinnitus to get worse permanently?

      I have read that running or any other high impact exercise should be avoided as it damages crystals in the ear (?), however, running makes me feel mentally a lot better and I seem to be able to cope better and don't dwell on my tinnitus as much after a good blast. I am not sure if this is making it worse or not as I have recently suffered a pretty major breakdown which I suspect to be the root cause.

      I seem to be over the worst of that but my tinnitus is worse than ever :( and I don't want to keep on running if it's exacerbating the tinnitus.

      Any advice appreciated.

      Thanks,
      Rich
       
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    2. Molan
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      Molan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Hi Rich, it's difficult to say really, high impact exercises can sometimes make my tinnitus worse but it's only temporary. I stopped jogging many years ago but I do sometimes do HIIT exercises using Kettlebells or very occasionally sprinting. That's does make it louder for a little while.

      Everyone's ears are different so what might effect someone could have no effect on somebody else. My friend's dad has been jogging his whole life and has competed in something like 20+ London marathons but he has perfect hearing and no tinnitus and is in his late 50's. Everyone reacts differently.

      Exercise does make people feel good in general so if you are worried that running might make your tinnitus louder on a permanent basis maybe you can try other types of exercises perhaps?
       
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    3. erik
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      erik Member Benefactor

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      Washington State, USA
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      04/15/2012 or earlier?
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      Hey Rich,

      I don't jog but I play a lot of sports namely basketball and soccer several times a week. It does usually make my tinnitus spike for the day but like others said it is temporary for me. The enjoyment and exercise I get out of it is worth it for me anyway. I am sure you will get better once you get thru this bad spell.
       
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    4. Karl

      Karl Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago
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      10/2011
      Rich T-
      I also run. I just ran a 5K last week. For me, it has no effect at all.

      The key to whether it effects your tinnitus, is whether running somehow excites the nerves associated with tinnitus. For most people, running increases endorphins, which make our mood better.

      My advice: Don't stop running. If it makes your tinnitus worse, it's only temporary. The benefits out weight a temporary spike.
       
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    5. Markku
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      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      My suggestion: go for a run, don't fear exercising, and don't actively listen to tinnitus during exercise nor after it.

      The less thought you can pay to your noise, the better. The perception of tinnitus changes the moment you start listening to it. It might have been "low" in your opinion, but once you look for it, you start to think something "increased" it, but nothing necessarily did; the sole reason may be the increased perception, or a temporary spike (and you shouldn't care about spikes, either).

      I wouldn't be surprised if it lowered to the previous level. Stress plays such a big part that in a while you should again feel your old self. I hope!

      Enjoy your runs,
      Markku
       
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    6. Map
      Balanced

      Map Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Czech Republic
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2003 (mild), 12/2012 (loud), 11/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      I started "running" (it is rather fast walking yet) after tinnitus worsening. I was never runner before, but now I need to do something active instead of sitting home and grieving over noise. So I am walking/running almost every day. It causes me spikes too, but I don't care about them, they are temporary. In fact, running makes me feel better, suppresses anxiety, I sleep better and has overall good impact on my condition.

      I always needed to lose some weight, and now I am finally doing it :) At least one positive thing, that came from my worsened tinnitus.
       
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    7. Petloy
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      Petloy Member Benefactor

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      08/2012
      Running or jogging may spike my tinnitus but it's always temporary, go ahead and run, you'll feel better and may sleep even better afterwards, I do... when I run outside I don't wear plugs, but when I run in the gym, sometimes it's louder there so I just place cotton balls in my ears while I run in the treadmill.
       
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    8. Sven
      No Mood

      Sven Member Benefactor

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      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      I run regularly and I have no negative side effects regarding tinnitus. I think it's good to keep exercising and I keep telling myself that it keeps my tinnitus. from getting worse. Don't run with music, though. It's easy to turn up the volume. Also, if you feel better in general it helps you to cope with your tinnitus.

      I'm 100% sure tinnitus caused by noise/loud music can't worsen with exercise.
       
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    9. yonkapin

      yonkapin Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Melbourne, Australia
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      March 2012
      Out of everything I've tried to treat my tinnitus volume, making sure I get a regular amount of cardio exercise into my schedule has been, by far, the most effective form of treatment for myself.

      I often forget how important this is actually. This past week and a bit I've been appling for new jobs and have been all over the city for interviews and what not, so I got a bit lazy and I wasn't getting my regular amount of cardio in. Immediately my stress crept up on me and so did my focus on the tinnitus, I felt pretty horrible - my ears were blasting off. So last night I got in a big session and immediately felt the benefits, the volume decreased significantly and my stress levels reduced.

      It's no miracle cure, and it takes alot of effort, but I recommend this to everyone, no matter who you or what type of tinnitus you have. Get moving! Whether it be running, rowing, biking, swimming, circuit training, etc - just start doing it, join a gym if you need to. Regular exercise = less stress (cortisol release) = less tinnitus.
       
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    10. Foamearplugssuck
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      Foamearplugssuck Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/26/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Doing concert photography
      Hey all.

      I've been dealing with tinnitus for the past two weeks, probably from going to concerts.

      I really used to enjoy jogging, and I would like to get into it again because I'm a bit sad and it makes me feel good. However, I really need to be listening to something while I run in order to keep myself motivated. I've read that earbuds are generally A Bad Idea with tinnitus, even while listening at a low volume. I think that circumaural headphones would be safer, but since I have to run outside [can't afford the gym], I feel like that would be the equivalent of wearing a huge sign on my back that says "I can't hear much! Please attack me!"

      Do you guys have any thoughts/suggestions? Should I wait to see if the tinnitus will go away before attempting to run again?
       
    11. Digital Doc

      Digital Doc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise induced
      Avoid the earplugs, as they can exacerbate noise induced tinnitus. In fact, if running near cars and traffic, be aware that noisy trucks are over 90 db's and can give further damage, so try to run where it is quieter or use hearing protection.

      I would say that running with ear buds is a bad combo in your situation. Even noise canceling headphones get mixed reviews here, although I don't have a set personally so have no direct experience.
       
    12. Michael B
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      Michael B Member Benefactor

      Location:
      San Diego, CA
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      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stupidity
      I am a runner and got tinnitus from running while using earphones. I like many discourage people from using them, especially if they already have tinnitus. There's definitely a difference between earphones and headphones, particularly with dynamic range, but I've given up on headphones as well. Not easy when you're used to running with them but I'd rather not take the chance of making my tinnitus worse.
      That said, my tinnitus does amp up sometimes after a run but in the long run I know it's good for me so I'll always run to some degree or another.
       
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    13. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      April /1996
      @Foamearplugssuck

      Running on hard ground or on a treadmill can make tinnitus louder and more intrusive for some people and it's not temporary, so I advise you to be careful. Due to impact that travels up through the legs into the upper body, head and auditory system.

      If a person find their tinnitus getting louder due to running, consider using an elliptical/crosstrainer as there is no impact with the ground.

      Michael
       
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    14. alanisnotadj
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      alanisnotadj Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1992 (got much worse in 2018)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure
      I am looking for some advice here regarding tinnitus and running. My tinnitus is pretty loud but bearable when I am not moving. However whenever I try to go for a run I give up as my tinnitus increases dramatically every time my feet touch the ground. My tinnitus is from an acoustic trauma & barotrauma about a year ago and I also have issues with my jaw.

      Is this increase in sound due to my jaw or the other traumas? And is running making everything worse in the long term?

      Any expert opinions would be much appreciated!
       
    15. Watasha
      No Mood

      Watasha Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Is there any reason to suspect that the impact of running on hard surfaces can cause damage to the auditory system resulting in tinnitus/exacerbation of tinnitus/hearing loss, etc?
       
    16. Tex

      Tex Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure
      Anything that jars the brain can exacerbate Tinnitus. I would not run with T. There are plenty of other good exercises that don't jar the body.
       
    17. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      1999
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      karma
      Suspect? Maybe. Is there any evidence that this has actually happened in a human? No. Is there any evidence that people like marathon runners or daily joggers have higher incidents of hearing loss? Not that I am aware of or have been able to find.

      Hearing loss from exercise is usually a result of:
      * perilymphatic fistula
      * severe dehydration
      * noise from gym
      * bombs, if you happened to be running in the Boston Marathon


      What do you mean by "jars the brain", and what are you basing this on?

      Since I've had worse tinnitus, I have probably jogged or run a couple hundred miles, also done all kinds of jarring high impact stuff (with earpro, of course) like cutting down trees, chopping wood, dirtbikes, etc. No temporary spikes, no long term changes that I am aware of. I've also had a couple blows to the head that made me cross my eyes, uh, a serious car accident, and god knows what else. I think my brain is probably dumber than it was 10 years ago but it doesn't seem to be louder...

      All that said, I think jogging is a p shit exercise because it shreds your knees. So I personally would avoid it on those grounds; I think it's a useful life skill to be able to sprint a mile if you absolutely have to, but beyond that I have no interest in building those muscle groups out past a point. Take anything I say about safety and exercise with a big grain of salt, though, since my preferred exercise is "double black diamond glade runs with a ton of trees and moguls".
       
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    18. TLT1998

      TLT1998 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss
      Hi all,

      So basically when I do high impact exercise at all during the day, the next day my tinnitus gets much worse and my ears become very sensitive to sounds and this lasts for 2 days.

      I am usually such an active bloke but this is hurting me.
       
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    19. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      1999
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      karma
      What do you consider "high impact exercise", and what environments are you doing it in?

      Have you experimented with intense, non-impact stuff that gets your BP & HR just as high to see if there's any impact there?

      Do your "spikes" always go away completely after 2 days?
       
    20. TLT1998

      TLT1998 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss
      The high-impact Exercise that includes running, jumping stuff that involves force to thefeet, knee and hips.

      I hadn't tried non-impact that gets my BP and HR just as high yet.

      The spikes do subside after 2 days.
       
    21. Star64
      Kick ass

      Star64 Member

      Location:
      Melbourne Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      2001
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Shreds your knees alright, especially once you get older, but I love to sprint a mile then I am done lol.
      Totally agree with your preferred exercise, nothing like taking on a mountain. :)
       
    22. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      1999
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      karma
      well, I would probably see if you can replicate this with other vigorous exercise (my ears go nuts and I also get pulsatile T if I start working out and sweating really hard). Also if it always goes back to baseline 100% with no weirdness I probably would not be that concerned, but that's me. I played dodgeball for like 3 years with this stupid condition, ha, I remember taking a shot right in the ear once.
       
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    23. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @linearb - Agree - Exercise is usually not a problem.
      There are many articles about Pulsatile tinnitus, including ones about sinus thrombosis that say limit exercise. Spontaneous intracranial hypotension a rare form of pulsatile tinnitus from a traumatic event, such as from jet skiing, or sometimes from head/neck associated pulsatile hyperactive activity can be a problem. Dehydration is never a good thing.



       
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    24. TLT1998

      TLT1998 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss
      Thanks very much. It's just more so the ears become very sensitive to any noise like me talking sets it off.
      I'll 100% try other exercises to match the HR.
       
    25. TLT1998

      TLT1998 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss
      I've haven't had dehydration for awhile. Always got water with me. I've got no idea but yeah running, jumping, soccer, basketball etc set it off for 2 days
       
    26. TLT1998

      TLT1998 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss
      I've been doing like 10-15 minutes of exercise that gets my HR up and the next day the sensitive ears and spikes aren't really there
       
    27. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      I just started running again and Epstein didn't kill himself.
       
    28. mikki_

      mikki_ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress / Mild hearing loss

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