Advanced Scan at Dentist — Dental Cone Beam CT and a Periapical Scanner

Discussion in 'Health Talk' started by BreachOfEuphoria, Sep 27, 2018.

    1. BreachOfEuphoria
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      BreachOfEuphoria Member

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      07/2017
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      Unknown
      I have now had some health problems for quite a while. I thought many of my problems were due to an assault but I had something underlying problem before the assault. And I think it all started when I had a root canal done. I'm more and more a firm believer of sick-teeth and mouth as a root cause of a sick body.

      I've had elevated infection numbers for 6-7 months now.

      As far as I understand it, a normal x-ray they do at the dentist, will only show if there is infection close to the tooth and it will say not anything about how healthy or unhealthy the nerves are.

      I found a dentist that has a Dental Cone Beam CT scanner and a periapical scanner.

      Have any of you had any experience with this?
      Any help would be greatly appreciated.
       
    2. coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      Good luck to you, i just left the dentist for another cleaning so yeah...i hate going to the dentist =[
       
    3. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @BreachOfEuphoria Hi Johan I had posted that I had a CT Cone Beam Scan done for dental concerns. I also made mentions about this procedure to another poster per his situation. Just place cone into search at the top of this page and my posts will appear.

      After examination and consultation a CD is given where one can view on their computer. The CD contains lot of information with many tools. It may take a hour to view everything yourself.
       
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      BreachOfEuphoria Member

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      Thank you! I have a fear of the drilling so close to the mastoid process but last time i was at the dentist, i felt so good after the anesthesia, tinnitus was practically gone and my neck became loose and healthy again..

      Thank's for your answer!
      I just tried searching, i could not find any posts of yours when searching for "cone" and "cone beam". I also tried searching for your posts but there is many pages.

      So, a CT cone beam scan would be able to tell me something about how the nerves health-state are ?
      Do you know if it would reveal any infection in the jaw ?

      I've had 3 root canals done in my life. I have no idea about the dead nerves state.
      Nervus Buccalis:dunno:
       
    5. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @BreachOfEuphoria Johan, place the word cone with a capital C - Cone into search. I have three posts on the first page of research results. Here is another link. https://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/info.cfm?pg=dentalconect

      It will show any nerve damage deep into your jaw and face.

      Update: I've now had it done three times for nerve recovery status. It also showed if progress was being made for my TMJ/D.

      You also may find this helpful: How are you doing? We haven't talked in awhile.
      https://nuccadoctordavis.wordpress.com/category/ringing-in-the-earstinnitus/
       
      Last edited: Sep 28, 2018
    6. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @BreachOfEuphoria In the link above, mention is made to the vast amount of occipital fibers that extend to the brainstem. These fibers and nerves receive input from the entire spine and many muscles of back and neck. Read the success rate that he has had with tinnitus patients. The Back in the Game series of chiropractic care and wellness links and other links that I have posted about injury, whiplash, posture and muscle spasms say that occipital treatment is key.

      I saw a healing therapy doctor who said that in thirty years of practice that he has never seen a tinnitus patient with back and neck problems that didn't also have occipital stressing. Many professionals believe that occipital input and neck spasming can lead to TMJ. You may not have any mouth problems.

      The first thing is to correct and use proper posture and that takes time. Then careful occipital treatment which is just a simple exercise is needed, but it must be done correctly otherwise more harm can be done. Along with occipital therapy, deep vertical fibers, facet joints, sternocleidomastoids and trapezius along with some other muscles must be examined and they will probably need very gentle treatment. The masseter, lateral temporalis and maybe the posterior digastric muscle for TMJ cervical connection might also need treatment, but for sure occipitals need to carefully treated.
       
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      Thank you.
      @Greg Sacramento
      Thank's for asking, I'm not doing good honestly. Since march i have become very weak physically. The only reason i get out of bed is to try and get better.

      How are you doing ?

      https://nuccadoctordavis.wordpress.com/category/ringing-in-the-earstinnitus/
      This is VERY interesting!

      From this link: Burcon has established a link to these conditions with whiplash injuries that misalign the base of the skull with the top of the neck creating a lesion affecting the Eustachian tube.

      Could an MRI scan show if i would have any benefit from visiting this chiropractor ?

      In relation to what he also writes. I very often have the feeling that my one leg is longer than the other.
      I also, every single night i lie down, have a feeling that my head is to the side. Even though it's lying there perfectly straight on the ergonomic pillow.
       
    8. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @BreachOfEuphoria Johan, I understand and it's going to take time for healing. It's going to take specialized care from medical professionals whom are able, willing and capable to help you. I can post many more professional links that consist of long reads, but some of the information may not apply to you.

      I will send you emails by PM of professionals and researchers that can answer your specific questions.

      I'm not sure that in your case of having one leg longer or one shoulder shorter is a major connecting concern. Usually age makes a difference and you are still young.

      Occipital neck nerves/fibers are almost always involved with whiplash and neck problems. Any bad seating position where the neck isn't properly supported or constant neck/head bending doesn't help. Occipital nerve/fibers send messages to the brainstem and can have associated involvement with the sternocleidomastoids, trapezius, other muscles and deep fibers Besides occipital nerves/fibers, facet joints are also most always involved. If it was about the C1 and C2 then almost for sure you would also have TMJ/D. All of this is within articles that I either posted or send to you.

      The treatments are easy, but it takes daily commitment with the use of heat, cold and posture awareness. Do you still have the treatment ideas (professional exercise treatment links) that I send you? Breathing in and out while relaxing the shoulders, extending the chest while trying to gently lift the neck and head.

      Support under the neck the second that you lay down is needed.
       
    9. Starthrower
      Wtf

      Starthrower Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dental Surgery
      @BreachOfEuphoria I also had this scan done a few times. It is SO detailed. Very strange seeing your skull in such detail. I found it less trouble than regular dental x-rays.

      @Greg Sacramento your information posted here is so great. Thanks.
       
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    10. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @BreachOfEuphoria I talked to a few people and they agreed that it's your neck. Facet joints, Ligaments - occipital. SCM and Trapezius all need slow and gentle strengthening. This is also the discussion of this article which was send to me. They recommended for you to continue discussion with your doctor. To talk to your doctor about strengthening by stretching your neck. I wish I could had accepted your invitation to come see you. When you get better come and see me.

      https://www.regenexx.com/why-your-h...k-muscles-may-also-be-causing-your-headaches/
       
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      @Greg Sacramento
      Thank you very much for helping me and contacting people too :)
      I'm very sure i do have TMJ/D. My jaw clicks, it feels unaligned. I have begun sleeping with a mouth guard, it seems to help on the tinnitus. When i got out of bed this morning and clenched my teeth together i felt as though my upper molars had proper contact with my lower molars for a second. I have to let you know.
      I found a place in Copenhagen where there is a very skilled person working. She knows all the connections with somatic tinnitus but she is only doing massage. Very good specific "somatic-tinnitus" massage. Do you think it will be enough ?

      I am VERY motivated to do something about this. Regarding specialists; my doctor has not been very good at sending me to any specialists.
      My fault is i have not been firm enough in demanding proper help, letting months pass and then taken the victim-role. Not very constructive of me.

      I am going to talk to her on the 3'rd. I am going to be pretty firm. I got nothing to loose and i might as well change doctor if she keeps on not helping me properly.

      I am totally committed but i probably need your advice on the heat and cold stuff.
      Yes, i have not deleted any PM's in my inbox.

      BTW, i have some information about the knot behind my ear. I will update the SCM topic later on. I just got to have some dinner and talk to a person so i will probably update the SCM topic at around 21:00 GMT+1.
       
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      Thank you for replying! Do you by any chance know if the scan told you anything about the nerves state ? If a dead nerve was infected for example ?
      Like if the buccal nerve was not healthy. I know this is not what the scan i going to look like but I'll post this picture to show what i mean.
      buc.jpg
       
    13. AUTHOR
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      07/2017
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      @Starthrower
      Thank you for replying! Do you know if the scan told you anything about the nerves health-state ?
      I know the scan is not going to look like this but i am posting a picture to try to show what i mean.
      buc.jpg
       
    14. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      According to Wakeley "pull of the posterior attachment of the disk" There's no need to this read the entire article or other noted links on the article page. It's advised to use a thin mouth guard and focus on your neck.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2786231/

      I don't know if there's a concern with this, but even in a mild way it only happens 2% of the time. If tinnitus is present then it's 4%.

      I have posted professional searched information about knots behind and in front of the ear. You can use keywords to place into search above, but I wouldn't worry about this.

      Your neck: Gentle and easy with focus on the areas with procedures mentioned in a post above.
      Do you still have the links for "Back in the Game" Chiropractic and Wellness - The Craniocervical connection - Injury and Whiplash? In this article the SCMs, trapezius, deep fibers, facet joint tenderness and occipitals - sub occipitals are mentioned. I mentioned treatment briefly in post above and before, but I know that I have given you detailed information by PM. This is professional advice from the best for treatment. It helps me, but I have a hard time not making repeated posture and bending mistakes. My occipital nerves and fibers get tensed from not sitting in a proper chair with a proper headrest.

      In the last eighteen months, I've have read over 600 highly professional articles on facial that includes an endless amount of conditions that include association with all facial systems, mouth, facial nerve complex and moving lips. I don't think that you have any of this going on.

      Warm before treatment. A washcloth placed under a hot water facet and then ring it out. Apply for a minute or two. Use cold after treatment such as a bag of frozen peas, but wrap it in a washcloth. Do not apply cold directly without it being wrapped. Apply for a couple of minutes.

      Do you still have the links on the SCM such as - The SCM - Strangest Muscle in the Body?
      I will be looking for your update.
       
    15. Starthrower
      Wtf

      Starthrower Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dental Surgery
      I don not remember seeing the specific nerves in your version of the skull. But it was so detailed just like the skull in your post minus the nerves. We could see where my lower jaw bone was fractured from the 2002 botched root canal.
       
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      BreachOfEuphoria
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      07/2017
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      Okay, thanks for the answer.
      I have updated the topic.
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...have-a-torn-sternocleidomastoid-muscle.28749/
       

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