It's Not Your Hair Cells! It's the Stereocicilia and Resulting Ion Balance!

Totally agree. Ions, Smions. The HDR does not seem to apply to me. I wonder why this thead is here as it seems misplaced. I mainly drink water, very low sugar intake, and salt and caffeine are moderate. I enjoy my cup of coffee each day. I cut it out for a week and noticed no change. In general, I eat and drink very healthy.

Now if I simply cup my hands over my ears or put on some protective ear muffs (like I'm doing yardwork), my T goes from a 10 to a 0 or 1. Pretty sure my T is related to the hearing loss I have at 8k hertz and above. I have excellent hearing below 8k. I will be watching the Frequency Therapeutics thread on further updates. I would love to see an update on the startlet sea anemone project as well.

 

Ahh you are so close! it's not the the hairs are bent from a loud noise producing tinnitus, they are bent because of the increased pressure from endolymph fluid and resulting ion imbalance, the higher the pressure (due to non-homeostatic pressure and ion balance) causes the hair cells to bend like a tree in a river and you hear shit.

 

Are you sure that loud noises did that? No you can't be, consider perhaps that the hairs cells are damaged due to toxic endolymph fluid degenerating the hair cells :0 rather than loud noises.

damage to your ear from music is the lamest kind of tinnitus, i'm sorry but hurting your ears in the way the meant to be used - listening to things - but it was too loud - it could be so much worse!!!! there are fungus and virus and bacteria and autoimmune disorders that will have you know a new type of tinnitus suffering you never thought possible.

tonal tinnitus and birds chirping and keys jingling and squeaks oh how I would love to go back to just normal static high pitched constant tinnitus.

 

Oh your so close again! Imagine this image - THE TREE IS NOT BROKEN FROM LOUD NOISES. THE TREE IS BENDING BECAUSE ITS STUCK IN A RIVER. Consider this - your hair cells are not broken but are bending under the force of endolymph fluid which is slightly increased due to non-homeostatic dynamic (poor diet, lack of sleep, resulting hormone imbalance, resulting ion imbalance) causing increased pressure called HYDROPS, NO NOT MENIERS just simple hydrops increased pressure in your ear causing your hair cells to bend as well as a resulting ion imbalance from the overproduction of fluid - AKA A TREE BENDING IN THE RIVER. If your hydrops would get way way worse with resulting poor ion imbalance your inner ear membranes rupture causing a mix of perilymph and endolymph fluid causing SPINNING VERTIGO and DISABLING "TINNITUS" congratulations you would now have given yourself MENIERES.

 

YOU SEE WHAT IMPROPER BALANCE OF ENDOLYMPH FLUID CAN DO?? DEGENERATE YOUR EARS, THE HAIR CELLS ARE NOT BENT FROM LOUD NOISES THEY ARE DEGERATING FROM THE TOXIC FLUID THEY ARE BATHING IN AND THE INCREASED PRESSURE BEING PLACED ON THEM. 1.) Correct the imbalance, 2.) regenerate the hair cells 3.) restore the hair cells function! EUREKA

 

Yes that's sums it up pretty well, however everyone experiences hydrops (not menieres), but if you would like MENIERES I can tell you how! First become very unhealthy in diet, malnourished and underfed, then add the stress of backbreaking physical labor, toss in black mold daily nightly inhalation, along with constant paint fumes in your bedroom from the paint you store for work, add a cat you are allergic too, some carbon monoxide from the water heater, some asbestos, antifreeze, and lead based paint from your home, throw in some more mcdonalds 20 piece nuggets w/ranch for $2.99, grow your own weed but forget to flush the chemicals when you smoke it, and constantly have a sinus infection. I'm pretty sure you'll get menier's in 6 months if your too stupid to ignore the tinnitus from the HYDROPS increasing in your ear, like I was. It will increase and increase until your ear ruptures resulting in a mix of endolymph and perilymph causing disabling tinnitus and disabling vertigo, as explained above. The more unhealthy in every way you become, your ears follow. If you have even one of the above stressors you will experience a slight slight hydrops, add more and hey you'll get menieres.

As far as research I posted the link in the first post, to wikipedia, yep don't need a research article here from PUBMED, there's nothing new being discovered here. There are hair cells at one end its called sterocillia and it bathes in the endolymph. The endolymph is known to undergo pressure changes when the body is unhealthy (see above paragraph to understand unhealthy). If the endolymph it moving to fast it bends the hair cell, if the endolymph is toxic it degenerates the hair cell. Just by looking at a damaged hair cell you still don't know that loud noises did that, it's likely a combination of a lot of things, including non-homeostatic endolymph. Also people experience a brief hydrops following loud music which corrects itself after 24 hours, but if you listen day after day then you will be experiencing a hydrops that may not resolve as easily.

See when you damage your ears through any means, the body loses it's control over the delicate fluid balance needed for ears to function. Normally the body maintains fluid ion balance on its own regardless of the body's fluid balance, however when infection and damage occurs (yes even from loud music) the ears loses it's independent control over endolymph balance resulting in hydrops, no you don't have menieres yet, but yeah you've got hydrops, as the body continues producing extra fluid at abnormal rates it changes the ion balance, and your hair cells start to wither away and degenerate and potentially die. Correcting the imbalance will stop the degeneration process.

Y'all: So how do we correct an ION imbalance?

Me: I'm working on it! Let me know if you figure it out!!!! But it's clear we need to focus on an overall healthy approach, the main variables under your control are diet and stress and sleep.

 

Oh you got it! you said that earplugs change your T. If your T was from damaged hair cells, your T would go up with earplugs. No doubt about it right? your T should go up. AHAH MOMENT but what if it's not a permanently damaged hair cell what if the increased pressure from endolymph fluid and resulting Ion imbalance is causing a distortion in your ears ability to hear sound correctly, when hearing environmental noise your ears also create a tinnitus sound which disappears when your plug your ears and stop the sound from traveling through your ear as fast, causing less audible endolymph distortion and giving you some peace.. Correct the imbalance, regenerate the ear, and stop the tinnitus.

 

@JRchief
Interesting, I have the opposite experience. Plugs and earmuffs make mine go through the roof, but at least it will go back down once they are off. If I don't use them I can expect a spike for days.

 

http://jeb.biologists.org/content/219/15/2229.2

http://www.healthyhearing.com/repor...a-anemone-proteins-could-help-restore-hearing

It was a published study which came out last summer in experimental science.

 

According to my ENT, it's most likely related to hearing loss at 8k hertz and above. I lead a healthy lifestyle based on my diet and exercise so I would say your opinions its about ion imbalance is a bunch of malarkey. I'll trust the two ENT's I've seen over some random person on an internet discussion forum.

 

Um excuse me? Trusting your ENT? You just lost half your credibility! You should trust your Otologist but I'm sure you don't know what an otologist is! If you'd like to have testing to actually KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR EARS, well ignorance is bliss, right? perhaps you'd like to have your ears tested, or perhaps your tinnitus isn't that bad?

The otologist cares, the ENT likes to regurgitate book knowledge from textbooks from school which are written by pharmaceutical companies, pharma will never solve hearing loss, your ENT cares not about your tinnitus my friend, they care not.

 

Your asking me to solve the HOLY GRAIL of hearing loss and TINNTUS, it's so much more complicated than you can imagine! I'm still learning here! IF I HAD THE ANSWERS I WOULDN'T BE HERE ID BE GETTING MONEY SITTING ON THE BEACH BANGING MY GIRL.

If I had the answers I'd be charging you buddy

 

Are you an Otologist? Have you seen my charts? Of course I'd like to know and better yet, have it fixed. If I am being told by someone who doesn't know me or my health history my T is due to having an ion imbalance from living an unhealthy lifestyle, I would tell them they don't know jack squat. Maybe it impacts some people but I am confident its not related to me. I trust my ENT about as far as I can throw them as they didn't shed any light on the problem, they only reaffirmed what I already believed. They did confirm my hearing is excellent through 7k hertz which was good to know. I wouldn't say its terrible but I certainly do not enjoy it either. I am more than willing to stuff anemone proteins and chord blood down my ears desperate for a solution.

 

Not gonna lie, the ion imbalance theory is a little far fetched. My T is due to me being an idiot and listening to music too loud, lost some hearing and bam, there it is. Pretty simple concept actually

 

Yeah and you also have mild hydrops from the damage with resulting ion imbalance. But your T isn't too bad so why are you on here?

 

That's fine, ignorance is bliss, trust your ENT that they know more than you about T. You need a referral to see the otologist, that is the one thing your ENT is good for, but you have to have catastrophic T so you probably don't qualify since your T isn't so bad.

 

I didn't know T caused dementia...cause you surely have it.

 

I agree with Samir. If oxygen sensor of my car engine does not function properly but still working it does not mean it is oxygen sensor a cause. Most of the reason of the malfunction is a black sooth covering a sensor which is due to poor engine/gasoline performance or lack of tuning, or bad driving habit etc. Human sensory parts are very complicated and connected with everything. It is very challenging to trace a cause. Flaw of modern medicine is that it is mechanistic and chemistic. There are electrical, magnetic and other things happening that we are not even aware of yet. Modern medicine foundation is a dollar. Have you seen a doctor making a living on healthy patients? Do you really think doctor's incentive is to keep you away from him/her? Have you seen a doctor coming home saying 'Honey, I am home. I had zero patients today and make money too'. eh?
Hundred of thousand years ago we were cannibals and we though it was a right and healthy thing to do. Do you really think that because we have iphones and other gadgets, it makes us 'smart' and civilized? We are still savage and barbarians committing genocide unaware of it every day.
Usually the tinnitus problem start with a visit to 'otolaryngologist' or ear neck throat or (ENT) specialist. However I think its not enough. Someone should be environmentalist, toxicologist, audiologist, dentist, neurologist and ENT specialist with non-intrusive tools for diagnosis. A holistic and thorough investigation with a full commitment from a patient. Most patients think of 'magic' pill for a 'quick' fix. Nature does not work like this. Unfortunately, specialties for a type of doctor or treatment I listed will not happen because we live in a world heavily dependent on industries that make money and support societies. Therefore environmentalist and toxicologist is very bad for business.

 

I agree partly with you. Especially about how medicine still works. We need something more advanced.
But argueing that this industry doesn't want to solve poblems, there is something I don't agree with. Companies that have the winning cure, win. As simple as that. May it be in one treatment or many. Otherwise they wouldn't invest in vaccines.