Physiotherapy and Somatosensory System

[untamed wolf]

thought it might be worth mentioning, I am always looking for kors of opinions on my T. I got T 4 months ago out og the blue, have overavetage hearing and therefore went to a physiotherapist. He could conclude sclerosis - I think it is called. Plus every muscle in my head is tense and i mean EVERY muscle. Yesterday he Said something about wanting to look at my somatosensory system and something about that I was not coping well with stress and that is apparently what the system is about? Correct me if I am wrong... Is there something to it?
I also experienced today when I massaged my face that my T went up in volume... So annoying. But is that because muscles are the cause?
Really thanks for replying you guys are amazing!

 

[Nucleo]

Sure physiotherapy might help with your muscle problems. But you should go for treatment only to fix the problems that the therapy is meant to fix. If your only goal is to make your tinnitus better you are only setting yourself up for disapointment.

 

[untamed wolf]

@Nucleo so you don't think there is a chance it will get better? It just don't feel like noise induced tinnitus. Have you tried to massage you muscles and get a higher volume sound? I really wanna know if this is something...

 

[linearb]

@Nucleo so you don't think there is a chance it will get better? It just don't feel like noise induced tinnitus. Have you tried to massage you muscles and get a higher volume sound? I really wanna know if this is something...

there's a chance it will help, and a chance it won't. There are plenty of skeptics around here, but just within the past several months I've read two different threads on reddit from people who said that resolving triggerpoints in their sternocleidomastoid muscles dramatically reduced their tinnitus.

It's not a cure for me, but, when my cervical spine and upper back muscle tension is at its worst, my tinnitus is worse, and getting that massaged does decrease the intensity of the T.

That said -- if this is a culprit at all in your case, you would be likely to have obvious signs: constant or chronic, fairly severe muscle pain, pain/grinding on extending or rotating your back/shoulders, etc. If your TMJs, upper back and neck seem otherwise healthy, then this may not be a factor in your problem.

 

[AnxiousJon]

I also experienced today when I massaged my face that my T went up in volume... So annoying. But is that because muscles are the cause?

There is a facial nerve very close to the middle/inner ear; my surgeon told me about it at my consultation. The context was that he was telling me about what he would be cutting if the insurances comes through, and he told me that he has to avoid that nerve, so I don't lose feeling in half my face or whatever.
I don't know if this helps, but it is just something I wanted to throw out there.

 

[linearb]

anecdote: https://www.reddit.com/r/tinnitus/comments/197968/ive_had_tinnitus_for_more_than_a_month_now_but_i/

There was another longer thread about this where someone said SCM trigger point treatments resolved their T, and another couple posters reported the same thing, but I can't find it at the moment.

 

[untamed wolf]

@linearb Thanks for replying My TMJs are not fine at all my physiotherapist is trying to correct them too with laser and manual force, they are popping all the time and sometimes they are so irritated I don't know what to do with my self. I have tense neck muscles too and a "locked" neck I think he called it. apparently my whole neck was locked and I could not move the way I should. I have scoliosis or at leaf my back is not straight and a very bad posture... I'm 5"8 and have self-esteem issues it was bound to happened so that is not good. my upper back is tired at the end of the day and every person in my family who has tried massaging my upper back says I am very tense and next tuesday my physiotherapist will see my upper back. Do you know anything about the somatosensory system I wanna come a little prepared.

 

[untamed wolf]

@AnxiousJon That is defiantly worth looking in to or maybe ask someone about... My ENTs are idiots so I don't think I can get something out of them. I guess I will have to google again then

 

[AnxiousJon]

That Dr. I was talking to is board-certified in Neurotology (Otolaryngology).
I would recommend one of those machines that shakes your feet to realign your back. You can see Saul Goodman using one in Breaking Bad in his office. You ever tried those @linearb ?
I went to a place that had me put my feet in one of those while I had this expensive machine drape a synthetic membrane over my whole body and then spray me with pulsating jets of water(you don't get wet). That was a very cool massage!

 

[untamed wolf]

@AnxiousJon I wanna talk to a neurotologist... But I can't because me ENTs have to send me to one and they won't at least not the two I have seen. Is scoliosis a cause for T? my physiotherapist said it could have shifted up in my neck that then shifted up ti irritate my ear... that might be why it gets higher when I massage? Don't know if that is making sense. It just don't feel like noise induced, I am really cautious if you compare me to the rest of my family

 

[Nucleo]

@Nucleo so you don't think there is a chance it will get better? It just don't feel like noise induced tinnitus. Have you tried to massage you muscles and get a higher volume sound? I really wanna know if this is something...

You can certainly try, but keep I would keep my expectations low. It's best not to get emotionally involved in anything tinnitus related.

 

[AnxiousJon]

@AnxiousJon I wanna talk to a neurotologist... But I can't because me ENTs have to send me to one and they won't at least not the two I have seen. Is scoliosis a cause for T?

That is the exactly the kind of question to ask a neurotologist. Frustrating!
Here's an idea:
Can your Primary Care Provider(family practice doctor) refer you to a neurotologist? If they can, don't say a word to him/her about tinnitus(you will just get redirected to an ENT). How many symptoms do you have that are non-tinnitus related that are nerve related?
Let me state the options here:
1. Find an ENT who is willing to explore the relationship between nerves in your face and neck and your tinnitus and thus send you to an Neurotologist.
2. Find another path to the Neurotologist. If you do go this route you want to mention ALL symptoms that indicate a neurological problem, and NONE of them that pertain to tinnitus. Once you get to the neurotologist, THEN you can talk about the relatioship of the tinnitus with the other nerves, and what they recommend.