Very Rapid Objective Pulsatile Tinnitus

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    1. Chileice

      Chileice Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2011
      I have very rapid objective pulsatile tinnitus. It is like a heartbeat in my ear except about 4 times faster, about 4 beats per second. My wife can hear it just by putting her ear next to my left ear. The doctor can hear it easily too. She put me on Betahistina. Has anyone else taken that? I guess it is to get the fluids in the ear back in balance. Has anyone had something similar or does anyone know what this might actually be called in English?
       
    2. Kaelon
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      Kaelon Member Benefactor Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

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      Boston, Mass.
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Muscle Spasms
      Hi @Chileice,

      Is your Tinnitus unilateral (in one ear only) or bilateral? What tests have you had done to confirm that the diagnosis is fluidic and not vascular? Betahistine is an anti-vertigo drug used mostly in labyrinthitis, Meniere's Disease, and other mostly balance-related disorders. However, I've never heard of an anti-vertigo drug being used to treat rapid pulsating sensations in your ear(s). Very interested in hearing more about your experience.
       
    3. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Hi, Chileice,

      Since you have objective pulsatile tinnitus, it is more likely that a specific cause can be found. Has your doctor suggested that you take any kinds of tests for your condition? Normally, for pulsatile tinnitus, doctors order an MRI and/or a CT scan to rule out any specific vascular causes. Some of those include fistulas, etc., so it might be wise to ask your doctor if testing is warranted for you.

      How long have you had this condition? Did it start suddenly, or is there anything that happened recently that might have caused it to start? Do you have any other health issues?

      I wish you well, and hope your doctor is able to help you identify a cause. If not, you might want to seek assistance from another doctor, or a specialist such as a neurologist or neurotologist.

      Good luck!
       
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    4. Chileice

      Chileice Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2011
      I first had it about 3 years ago and it eventually went away. I had another bout last year and again, it went away. This time I went to the doctor. She took my blood pressure to make sure it wasn't related to that. She checked for any abnormal blood flow in the cartoid artery and examined my ears to see if there was antything behind the timpanic membrane. It is only on the left side. She asked about any dizziness or balance issues. I have had a few times when i had mentioned to my wife that I felt like my balance was a Little off. I live in Spain in a small town where it is harder to get to a specialist.
       
    5. 1MW
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    6. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

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      05/2010
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      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Chileice,

      Perhaps, since you've had this before and it went away, your pulsating will go away again. I can understand that it would be hard to find a specialist since you live in a small town.

      I have pulsatile tinnitus in only one ear, too, and when mine first started, I also had balance issues. It took awhile, but the dizziness and occasional vertigo finally went away. I'm hoping that will happen for you, too.

      If you wait awhile and the pulsating still doesn't go away, then you might want to consider finding a specialist.

      Take care, and please keep us posted on how you're doing.
       
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    7. Chelles
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      Chelles Member Benefactor

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      04/2011
      @Chileice did you ever find out what was causing the objective pulsatile tinnitus? Mine is caused by middle ear myoclonus and it comes and goes.
       
    8. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Can pulsatile tinnitus be cured?
       
    9. Chelles
      Balanced

      Chelles Member Benefactor

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      04/2011
      @Danny Boy i think it all depends on what's causing the pulsatile tinnitus.
       
    10. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      I'd admit I have a lack of understanding of pulsatile tinnitus, is it rarer than normal tinnitus? Can trobalt help lower it?
       
    11. Chelles
      Balanced

      Chelles Member Benefactor

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      @Danny Boy i don't know if trobalt can help it and there are many causes for pulsatile tinnitus mine is objective caused by middle ear myoclonus.
       
    12. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Yeah, someone should try trobalt if they have it. I mean, we'd know if potassium modulators can work on pulsatile tinnitus then.
       
    13. Chelles
      Balanced

      Chelles Member Benefactor

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      04/2011
      @Danny Boy what is trobalt and have you tried it?
       
    14. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Yes, I have been using trobalt for many months...My t was 10/10 and is now a 1-2...Look up treatments retigabine on tt for information overload.
       
    15. Chelles
      Balanced

      Chelles Member Benefactor

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      04/2011
      @Danny Boy my tinnitus is a little different than yours so I don't think the same would work I think the ultimate treatment for me is surgery.
       
    16. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Well, it may be worth a try for scientific reasons.
       
    17. Steeve
      Bookworm

      Steeve Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      I have had what sounds like the same thing as Chileice--a mechanical, usually quite regular beating in my right ear about four times faster than my pulse, its rhythm not in sync with my pulse rhythm. I hadn’t had it in years until I turned onto my left side during sleep and it started again a few months ago. I’ve had a few episodes since, lasting between an hour or so and a few days. No dizziness or balance issues.

      I believe Chelles has described the cause of mine. See http://umm.edu/programs/hearing/services/tinnitus (under Objective Tinnitus).

      My episodes may correlate with stress and with muscle tensing habits around the face. As a psychologist, I used to moonlight at a TMJ/headache clinic, where we taught patients not to engage in clenching, lip biting, poor posture (which tenses the neck muscles), tongue habits, or just tensing the jaw. It’s moderately difficult but very possible to decrease these habits. It helps to set a timer for 5 minutes and use it for about an hour at a time to catch oneself. It also helps to relax the jaw, face, and neck in good posture for five minutes at a time.

      I can’t relax out of pulsatile tinnitus at one sitting, but if I attend to habits and relaxation over a day or two, that may help, as the problem eventually disappears at some point, often overnight.
       

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