An Interesting Observation to Somatic Tinnitus from the Large Survey (> 5000 Participants)

Discussion in 'Support' started by Tinniger, Mar 18, 2018.

    1. Tinniger

      Tinniger Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
    2. Steve
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      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      It is high. Previous studies have been quite biased as they are clinic based and can be as high as I believe 80%.

      Our question was very generic in that first survey. We followed up with the physical links survey which I will link to when I'm not about to eat pizza and watch a movie :)

      In this we had very specific things about which movements caused a rise in tinnitus volume.
       
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      Tinniger

      Tinniger Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Even in large textbooks, somatic tinnitus is at best a marginal chapter.
       
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    4. Tempest
      Tired

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      Cool to see a survey such as this, though reading the data is kinda hard. I'd wish the results would be sorted from highest to lowest.
       
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    5. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing + Somatic tinnitus from dental work
      The true honest numbers is why I focus a lot on somatic physical T and it's not just because I have it. The 32.83 figure may actually be low because many don't realize that a physical element or condition can connect or complicate their noise induced trauma.

      There's never been a complete diagnostic manual written for physical/somatic T. It's can be complicated and treatment can often only be advised case by case. That may include diagnostic testing, blood work and a medical team of care givers. Many researchers have said it's the 'neck' but many believe the 'jaw' or mouth may have a large influence as well. Something that some dentists won't admit to.
       
    6. Steve
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      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

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      Sheffield, UK
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      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Here's the chart from the survey. This was a "select all that apply" question. Nearly 44% could modulate their tinnitus via one or more of these movements.

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      Tinniger

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      Location:
      Germany
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      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      E.g., very interesting would be to correlate the data of somatic tinnitus with the the primary cause of tinnitus...
       
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      Tinniger

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      Location:
      Germany
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      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Linking this fact to the causes of tinnitus would be very interesting!
      Maybe the raw data are still available...
      Oh, I see, I repeat myself....
       
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      Tinniger

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      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Obviously nobody can understand my aim....:dunno:
       
    10. Hazel
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      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      one-sided hearing loss (of unknown origin)
      We heard you @Tinniger :)

      Yes, the raw data are still available. We'll do an analysis on this and get back to you.

      FYI, I already tried a similar analysis comparing the group with hearing loss to the group without, in terms of primary causes. There were differences but they didn't seem very great and I struggled to make something meaningful of it.

      Anyway, I'll try to post some more analysis soon. More suggestions on potential correlations or comparisons from this data set are welcome!
       
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      Tinniger

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      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Hi :),
      it is only an idea, but trying to correlate this data:
      28.70% - Don't know the cause
      13.73% - Noise-induced hearing loss (continued noise exposure, occupational noise)
      9.59% - Acoustic trauma (explosion, exposure to gunfire or extremely loud, sudden noise)
      8.33% - Other (please specify)
      7.65% - Virus (ear infection, flu, cold)
      6.42% - Spontaneous onset (no apparent cause)
      4.84% - Psychological (stress, anxiety, depression)
      4.56% - Ototoxic (from drugs or medication)
      2.87% - Age-related hearing loss
      2.79% - Head or neck injury
      2.39% - Sudden hearing loss
      2.31% - Meniere's
      1.47% - TMJ (issues with the jaw)
      1.00% - Ear wax procedure (syringing, candling or other related procedure)
      0.68% - Dental treatment
      0.66% - Barotrauma (due to change in barometric or water pressure)
      0.62% - Ear wax build up
      0.60% - Otosclerosis
      0.40% - Allergy
      0.38% - Metabolic (diabetes, thyroid, B12, hyperlipidaemia etc.)

      with "somatic tinnitus" is obvious.
      Maybe, e.g., somatic tinnitus is often (80%?) at head injury and seldom with ototoxity (10%?).
      This would be a very important fact!
       
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    12. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing + Somatic tinnitus from dental work
      My dentist who has an undergraduate degree in disease and infection said that 5% to 10% with tinnitus have an undetected infection and many of those could be helped with a round of antibiotics. He said just the connection to nerves in the mouth from bad dental is a reason to try an antibiotic.
       
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      Tinniger

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      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Apparently the possibilities of correlation formation were not further explored, although possibly informative associations would have been found...
       
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