Been to the Doctor, He Said If It's Due to Hearing Loss, It Might Be Permanent, Otherwise Maybe Not?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Boxdra, Jan 19, 2014.

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    1. Boxdra

      Boxdra Member

      I'm getting a test for hearing loss.

      He said: If its due to hearing loss it might be permanent. If its not hearing loss in almost all cases its going away on its own (and there is no other medical reason ofcourse)

      Yet, I thought atleast some people here don't have any hearing damage yet is does not go away? Are you guys the exeption, or is my docter wrong?

      Also ive been a little dizzy last weeks, and should keep checking if that will go away.

      Ive been in an incredible stressfull one and a half year. So its hard to see what symptoms are stress and what have a different cause.
       
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    2. Stina
      Psychedelic

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      Tartu
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      11/13
      Yeah I think we have many people on this board who do not have hearing loss but still have Tinnitus... however I think in many cases the cause really is stress... so try to find ways to relax, exercise, eat healthy food and stay positive:) Also, stay away from loud noises and horror stories about Tinnitus.
       
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    3. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
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      17/08/2013
      your doctor is totally wrong and he has no way/clue how to measure your audition at every frequencies.
       
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    4. seal

      seal Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      I'm sorry but when it comes to tinnitus the ENTs and other doctors have absolutely no clue. Please don't listen to their stories... It's like what are they gonna say if they know nothing about the condition. The last ent I went too (not because of T) I told him that I had Tinnitus from a concert and he said it couldn't be (!!) that it didn't go away.. I swear I almost strangled him right there and then. So no, I don't see how just because he can't measure hearing loss
      your tinnitus will definitely go away.. I mean it can always go away but it has nothing to to with having or not having hearing loss. Me for example I don't have measurable hearing loss and still have tinnitus and I'm for sure NOT an exception.
       
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    5. Boxdra

      Boxdra Member

      Man, they are supposed to be specialists. It was also a pretty young docter. If they don't know it then I guess this place is the best help I can get. I will ask him some critical questions about this. It might still be possible that it will go away within 6 months I think? We will see.
       
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    6. Per

      Per Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2013
      @Boxdra,

      Stay positive. If the onset is pretty new then it could go away, its a complex thing. I've talked to people both with and without hearing loss that experienced solid decrease. In terms of doctors they don't know diddley about our condition. Might as well just expect that. The ENT's don't have a clue. Doctors aren't always the best at assessing T! They are often ignorant and have low knowledge. If you follow their advice you could end up in an even worst place.

      What Cigarette Do You Smoke Doctor?
       
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    7. Kimbo Slice
      Balanced

      Kimbo Slice Member

      Location:
      Canada
      I think the standard hearing test only goes up to 8000 Hz, but humans can hear up to 15000 or 20000 Hz or something in those numbers. So that might explain why these people are said to have no hearing loss. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
       
    8. James7

      James7 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      I agree completely. Why do some doctors do this? Perhaps this quote from From “Bedside Manners Skills for the Clinician” partly explains it - “…when you are unable to provide a tangible treatment or therapeutic option, it is often best to give the patient some hope that their condition will spontaneously improve. These platitudes of reassurance and hope cannot be contested and you can move on to other patients.”
       
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    9. LadyDi
      Busy

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      Location:
      Florida, USA
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      06/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Barotrauma/airplane
      You are not wrong, Kimbo.

      So Boxdra, if you get a hearing test, ask how high are the frequencies being measured. I was initially told I had no hearing loss...but later found I have a slight loss above 8,00o hz. And some people do have T with no hearing loss.
       
    10. seal

      seal Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      Ok I get it but in this case he didn't say it in a manner that means " don't worry , it will go away" but in a manner that says " you are imagining it, it simply can not be that you still have tinnitus after all that time, a thing like that doesn't exist" that's why I was so mad at him.
       
    11. Stina
      Psychedelic

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      Location:
      Tartu
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/13
      I think the reason they dont want to do this tests is because they are not so objective, it could be that everyone hears the sounds a bit differently.Also, some hearing loss already in your 20s is normal. Children can hear up to 20,000 hz or even higher, whereas adults only hear up to 16,000. Also, how much someone hears is genetic and depends on the race and genetic background as well.
      Therefore, some scientists have said that audiogram as a method is not very reliable. I think that nowadays they are trying to work out better ways for identifying damage, but this more the subject of neuroscience.
       
    12. Boxdra

      Boxdra Member

      @ ladydi, yes I will ask that I did the hearing test today and unfortunatly I already know there is hearing damage. One ear I heard things really better then the other ear. The strange thing is that my bad ear is nit the side I have my tinnitus.

      I will have to wait for the results, but they will not be good. So I have to accept that I got nu tinnitus due t hearing loss.

      Ow well. Positive thing is because I will have to protect my hearing from now on that I will stop further hearing loss.
       
    13. baddream
      Depressed

      baddream Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2012
      I had a hearing test today and have normal hearing but there was a slight dip in the right ear that "should be unnoticeable" but when listening to music it really feels panned to the left...really annoying..
       
    14. Boxdra

      Boxdra Member

      Wow, surprised. I got the results of my hearing test. There was a small difference between my ears but that was because of a little bit of flued in my ear. This Isnt the ear with tinnitus.

      So I asked him: is my hearing ok? These are the words of my docter: your hearing Isnt ok, its perfect. It was beter then most people of my age.

      So I have no idea. Even if my hearing is really good, it could still be because of hearing loss. So why did I even do the test? Rediculous. I am in no way any further.

      It could also be because of stress, but the truth is is don't know how I got it and if it will go away. I would like to hope that it will go away but I don't like fooling myself. So I will just try to live with it and see what happens.
       
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    15. EddyLee
      Tolerant

      EddyLee Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Yes T can go away. The chance is very low though but a bit higher for those T where the cause is unknown.
      I have know of few people who has their T disappeared after 1 to 2 years. All of them has idiopathic T.
      One thing is for sure, T can definitely get lower. You just need to be patient and try everything you can.
      For me, getting rid of my long term GERD problem, regular exercise and supplementing vitamin D & B12 (i'm diagnosed low) has lower my T from 7-8/10 when it started to 0.5-4/10 now :)
       
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    16. Tenna
      Anime

      Tenna Member

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      Europe
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      10/2013
      Far most of people have some kind of hearing loss already from youth, I doubt an ENTs words on no loss up to 8000 freq are decisive in whether t exists, remains or subsides, as even those without known cause naturally should have a slight heàring loss @EddyLee "the chance is very low but a bit higher for those T where the cause is unknown". Most people have t after concerts, where most of those subsides, so not necessarily, and if reason is unknown, it might as well be due to noise/hearing loss potentially:) or something else, anyway, the only thing we do know is that chances of habituation are high :)
       
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    17. EddyLee
      Tolerant

      EddyLee Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      @Tenna I mean chronic T, temporary T after loud noise is very common but i agreed it's not necessarily that idiopathic T has higher chance to go away it's just from the cases i know of and my logical thinking. Most will habituate but i won't rely on habituation alone, i believe we can lower the actual T volume. Just don't give up and keep trying. Sparks60 here has T for 30 years and had his T reduced 80%
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/notched-music-therapy.61/page-3
       
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