Brain Has Natural Noise-Cancelling Circuit

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    1. razo

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    2. AmericanJosh

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      There is a ton of great research out there from all over the world. I know that these folks have to do literature reviews prior to starting/applying for funds for their own research. They have a lot of knowledge gaps to fill. Let's pray and hope that they will discover an actual usable treatment.
       
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    3. Samir
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      I can testify that whenever I move around a lot and then come to a standstill, I cannot hear my tinnitus for the first few minutes. As the time goes on it starts to gradually appear again. So no one needs to tell me that there is a correlation between movement and auditory (tinnitus) perception. I know by my own experience that movement has an inhibitory effect on tinnitus.
       
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    4. 85dB T
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      Interesting/cool. I've experienced a lot of things with T but never this.

      Pulsatile, jaw movements, etc. But never bodily motion. Maybe weight impact while jogging.
       
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    5. Samir
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      You better believe it. This is why I like to find things to do that requires me to move around a lot. My current job requires me to be on the move all the time and this helps me manage my tinnitus. As soon as I sit down to rest I cannot hear my tinnitus, not even in a quite office where I actively listen for it. It takes about 5 minutes or so before I begin to notice it again. It's as if my brain cranks up the volume or something to that effect. It's so frustrating when it feels like it's gone, and then it crawls back on you again, and you cannot run away from it.

      I have written before about my experience with tinnitus when driving a car. The moment I sit down in a car and drive off I would not notice my tinnitus all that much or not at all, depending on what I have been doing before that. After driving around for some time I would then start noticing it, especially when standing still at a traffic light. I used to think that it was all that traffic around me that was exacerbating my tinnitus. But I later learned that it was the act of sitting still in the car, and with the car itself at standstill that was exacerbating my tinnitus. I speculate that it is the lack of movement and the lack of other sensory input, primarily lack of visual input when the car is at standstill that drives up the auditory (tinnitus) perception.
       
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    6. 85dB T
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      I believe it.

      There must be some reasonable explanation. I wonder if this is related to movement of cilia, the whole electrical apparatus of the CNS or strictly a sensory input phenomenon in the brain.

      At least you get a break. My T is stubborn and tenacious, never takes a break and is strong as a bull.
       
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    7. Samir
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      Good question! One which I don't know the answer to.

      Dr. Fatima Husain from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign has shed some light on this in her study of the relationship between the dorsal attention network and the default mode network in tinnitus patients. Her study suggests that a tinnitus patient is never truly at rest.

      https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/547435

      We have a lot more to learn about the brain. The good thing is that there is an increased interest in tinnitus research, and in brain research in general. Progress is slow but steady. The research done by this group alone may benefit the tinnitus patients in the long run.
       
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      Samir, Sep 16, 2018
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    8. 85dB T
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      Yes. If anyone cared to understand T sufferers they would probably benefit from reading here. A good collection of symptoms and experiences from actual sufferers.

      They probably do read here and realize, stay away from these people! haha
       
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    9. JohnAdams
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      too bad it doesn't have a natural tinnitus cancelling circuit
       
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    10. Samir
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      Many of the researchers have tinnitus themselves. So I think it's safe to say that they do understand what it's like. Professor Mooney is also affected by tinnitus.

      Here are some of his thoughts on the progress of neuroscience in the last decade.
      Richard Mooney, PhD: Birdsong, calcium...
       
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    12. Lane

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      Hi @Samir

      Have you by any chance ever tried Qi Gong to see whether it might give you longer lasting tinnitus relief? I'd love to do it myself, but my dysautonomia makes it difficult for me. -- Just did a quick google search and came up with the following:

      Videos
      2:54
      Qi Gong Ear Exercise
      Iqbal Ishani
      YouTube - Nov 11, 2010
      6:11
      Amazing Dr. Effie Chow healed tinnitus!
      林美智子
      YouTube - Aug 27, 2016
      7:58
      Qi Gong ear procedures
      Wailin Mahailas
      YouTube - Mar 29, 2012
       
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    13. JohnAdams
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      my ass.
       
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      JohnAdams, Oct 29, 2018
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    14. Bill Bauer
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      What about it?
       
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    15. JohnAdams
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      i'm just being goofy but it'd be nice if this noise cancelling circuit cancelled my fuggin tinnitus.
       
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    16. MickV

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      Did you not say your tinnitus had gone away?
       
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    17. JohnAdams
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      It started going away, at night and sometimes during the day, but then I was exposed to some loud sounds, I had a bad spike for about three weeks and now it's kinda low again, not nearly what it was. I woke up like a week ago and it was gone so far as I could tell but came right back. For a while during this my solid tone turned into cricket sounds now it's a solid tone again.
       
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    18. john paul
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      Your T sounds very much like mine. I have really good days where its not 100 percent gone but its not an issue and i feel like i could easily cope with it staying that way. On regular days its just going to bed that sucks, and then sometimes i have a bad day where all day sucks, but my T is not screaming like it was in the first few months. I have to admit tho i mask it with music or ambience or both pretty much all day especially evening.
       
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    19. MickV

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      Noise induced tinnitus? Wow...you really did not hear anything at nights? I forgot how it is... ;)
       
      MickV, Oct 31, 2018
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