Chime Sounds When Turning Head Side to Side

Discussion in 'Support' started by cowdodge, Jun 29, 2015.

    1. cowdodge
      Grumpy

      cowdodge Member

      Location:
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      1995
      Ok I'm going to describe a sound that occures when I turn my head side to side and its sort of a flute noise. I only happens when I regerously move my head side to side. Also when I'm walking at a brisk pace and have ear plugs on this noise go oft and on when I take forward footsteps or stomp my heals. Another person discribed from another chat sight discribed this reaction and I was wondering if this happens to other folks on this site. This sound has been going ever since I developed the T's . Wish I could discribe it better
       
    2. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      Cairns
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      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      I know exactly what you mean. I also get it in the affected ear with chewing, as well as shaking me head.
       
    3. cowdodge
      Grumpy

      cowdodge Member

      Location:
      Seattle, Washington
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      Have you ever ask any doctor what that noise could be comming from? Would be interesting to know? By the way what kind of car is that in the picture?
       
    4. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      I wondered if anybody would wonder. Its a Zil from Russia. Came out about 1956.

      I gave up asking doctors anything. Once you say Tinnitus they aren't interested any further in you.
       
    5. Capricornus
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      Capricornus Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Just discovered that I experience the same thing. When I turn my head from side to side I get this quick "chime tone" in my right ear. I need to move my head quite "violently" in order to hear it, but it still annoys me now that I have discovered it. My T is noise induced but since onset I have been very tense in my neck/face muscles on the right side, the same goes for my jaw. I wonder if this phenomena could be due to some somatic problems. Any advice for me? Have anyone experienced something similar?
       
    6. bill 112
      Fine

      bill 112 Member

      Location:
      Republic Of Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      I experience this too,when I swing my head from side to side I get what I would call a chime noise in my left ear or a beeping noise.

      I wouldn't blame tense muscles,I made that mistake in November 2015 and carried on with my symptoms regardless.I seen a masseuse one a week thinking that would fix the problem I was having but it kept getting worse and worse until everything went crazy in February 2016.
      The peripheral nervous system is connected to the somatosensory nervous system hence why a lot of people here experience somatic T(make it louder/quieter by moving jaw etc)

      If your T started randomly after let's say a whiplash injury then it would be entirely possible that your neck is causing the T,but seeing as your T is noise induced whatever is causing your T inside your ear is most likely responsible for the somatic symptoms you experience and no amount of tension relief will cure it believe me I tried and payed heavily for that mistake.
       
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    7. Capricornus
      Inspired

      Capricornus Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      So experiencing a "chime sound" in your ear while shaking your head from side to side basically mean that you are screwed? Now I don't know what to do... :(
       
    8. bill 112
      Fine

      bill 112 Member

      Location:
      Republic Of Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Just hope it goes away,it's all you can do really.


      I don't know your personal situation,for all I know a tense neck could be causing these problems for you and as such treating your neck would alleviate it.
      You can investigate it further,I can't see why not but don't be surprised if it doesn't work out.
       
    9. Samir
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      Samir Manager Staff Benefactor Ambassador Team Tech Team Research Team Awareness

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      12/2016
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      Bewitched ears
      I don't know about any "chime" sound. But turning my head hard right and hard left helped bring on tinnitus for me. I had already started to experienced some kind of buzzing sound in my left ear when making certain neck or arm movements.

      I didn't give it much thought. Not until I went to an audiologist and did a hearing test and it showed a mild 30 dB dip at 6 kHz on my left ear. I was exposed to sudden high pitch (about 6 kHz), high level noise from a failed computer sound card a few months before this. I had developed spasms in my left ear (TTTS) and was having panic and anxiety attacks. It only made matters worse when I started investigating these weird sensations and sounds I had been experiencing earlier. So I noticed this change in volume or pitch when yawning, clinching teeth, or turning my head left and right.

      I think it's this one day when I turned my head too much to the left that the buzzing sound became constant. More or less so... I barely notice it sometimes, yet other times it disturbs my sleep, makes me uncomfortable, makes it harder to concentrate at times and sometimes give me panic attacks.

      What kind of sound you hear is all different for everybody. You may hear chimes, I hear buzzing, someone else hears beeps, it's all different sounds. But what we all have in common is that certain body part movements seem to trigger these sounds or make them softer, louder, change in frequency and so on.

      Doctors are all puzzled! Even the top scientists in the related fields. They don't have a clue! Even if they do, they can hardly test their hypothesis. There is a lack of basic diagnostic tools and methods to set accurate diagnosis. They only speculate and hypothesize about it, based on stories told by patients. Even when they do that, they use a group of no more than 500 individuals. They look for "prevalence" of one symptom or the other. With a large set of symptoms, these 500 individuals quickly narrows down to maybe 50 individuals with exactly the same symptoms, same age, etc. You can hardly draw any meaningful conclusions from such a small number of individuals. Tinnitus sufferers count in millions of people around the world! Why can't they collect data from all of us?

      What they need is to gather a lot more data and acquire true knowledge and understanding of the problem or problems. They need to develop new type of tests, collect a lot more objective measurement data, process that data and turn it into new conclusions and discoveries.

      Scientists across the globe from several medical fields need to collaborate a lot more, and put a lot more resources and effort into this. It's such a complex problem! It's a set of a number of problems and symptoms. We are only now starting to see a lot more initiatives from pharmaceutical companies, governments, and scientists coming together to try to solve these mysteries.
       
    10. Samir
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      Samir Manager Staff Benefactor Ambassador Team Tech Team Research Team Awareness

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      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bewitched ears
      What model? That looks like a Subaru to me! :)
       
    11. Capricornus
      Inspired

      Capricornus Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I believe he changed picture!
       
    12. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Its actually a Toyota Starlet Turbo, 1989 type. Put it up in solidarity for Bill112
       
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    13. bill 112
      Fine

      bill 112 Member

      Location:
      Republic Of Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Haha thanks Paul,that's actually very thoughtful of you but it's actually funny that you should mention the GT Turbo.

      As you know my biggest heartbreak was selling mine due to Hyperacusis,I had just finished fully restoring it and then I was left with no choice but to sell it.

      Today I was returning home from a blessing thingy my mother made me go to when we stopped at a local store here in my village.I sat there staring out the window and began thinking about my GT turbo,something that I often do,like where it is now and how I'd love to be able to own and drive it once again etc.

      And what happened next?An absolutely PRISTINE fully original Mk2 GT Turbo parked directly beside us,literally right in front of me just as I was dreaming about my old one.I got out and had a look around it absolutely over come with its tidiness.Then the emotion hit me and I started crying in the middle of town like a sad case and had to walk into the church so no one would see me.It just felt like I was being teased,like it was being dangled right in front of me and I know I'll never get to drive and enjoy one ever again,they're a rare car even in Ireland so the chances of that happening are slim to none,sometimes I feel like the world is trying to get me down as much as possible,just as I feel like I couldn't possibly be any sadder crap like this happens.

      Anyway I haven't stopped thinking about that GT all day today and just thought now was as good a time to mention it as ever,but back to the threads original purpose,I don't want to derail it.
       
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    14. Vinnitus
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Just want to chime in here and say "yes, me too". When I turn my head to the extreme right (contralateral side) it will cause a sharp "ZING" kind of sound in the left ear (the one affected by the noise trauma). I agree this can be perceived as very annoying and upsetting.

      My thinking is that this is actually a signature sign of (auditory) nerve damage, or more specifically cochlear synaptopathy. When you perform a move like this, the facial/cranial nerves get stimulated because of stretching which triggers a hyperactive response perceived as sound. Let's remember that Liberman said that the auditory input to the nerve has been reduced due to synaptic damage, for which (according to Shore) other nerves seem to compensate by stepping up their activity.

      I get the same effect when pressing beneath the eyes with a flat hand. This only happens when I press on the left side of the face (triggering a loud and clear "ZING" noise in the left ear) but not when I press the right side (both ears remain fairly quiet, I have to press really hard and concentrate to get some very faint hiss in the right ear. This indicates the "ZING" is not normal). For me, it is actually my "normal" constant Tinnitus which is exacerbated by such movements. When I hear the "ZING" I cannot hear my "baseline" Tinnitus sound (because it is one and the same sound, just exacerbated). I therefore think my Tinnitus is not central but peripheral. It makes sense to think that restoring the auditory input by repairing the synaptic connections will recalibrate the nerve activity and hence reduce this type of Tinnitus.

      I think the nerves and connecting synapses are heavily involved here and this would also explain why so-called "somatic" tinnitus is so common in noise-induced cases.
       
    15. Vinnitus
      Tired

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      I'm afraid this can only be seriously resolved by restoring the input to the auditory nerve, which in turn reduces the activity of the other somatosensory facial/cranial nerves. Massages, acupuncture etcetera might bring relief, but it will be temporary in nature as it doesn't resolve the root cause; loss of auditory input.

      I am fairly optimistic however that we are near to treating this kind of Tinnitus.
       
    16. volsung37

      volsung37 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      My high pitched tone changes pitch when I move my head.
       
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    17. Capricornus
      Inspired

      Capricornus Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      @Vinnitus, Thanks for explaining your theory. I need to really shake my head aggressively in order to hear it (not a natural movement so there's really no point for me to keep doing it). I asked my friends and family members to do the motion and many of then told me they heard the same "chime sound". I have stopped worrying about it. I believe that it may be the same effect as when you clench your jaw (even people without T can experience a sound when doing this).
       
    18. Vinnitus
      Tired

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      Location:
      Amsterdam
      Tinnitus Since:
      28/04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Yes, I think this is common, also with persons without the constantly noticeable Tinnitus. I think almost everyone has some degree of hearing loss anyway as it is hard to not have it in today's society (unless you walk around plugged up all the time, and even then there are the 'dont use it, you lose it' theories), I also think the statistics are way too optimistic about the prevalence of hearing loss. It is far more widespread than projected.

      I did however notice this phenomenon has become "worse" for me since my last acoustic trauma. I never got it while looking backwards before when driving my car in reverse for instance (this was when I first noticed it), but now I do. I think the degree of nerve hyperactivity caused by hearing loss differs from person to person and this is probably influenced by things we do not yet fully understand.
       
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    19. Cal18
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      Cal18 Member Benefactor Team Awareness

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      2010 / 2016 Both SSRI Withdrawal and Mild Hearing Loss
      I get this too but I have to shake my head very quickly. I only hear it in my left ear although both ears are affected. I have been diagnosed with TMJ as well (along with half the people on here so I'm no sure if that means anything).
       
    20. Samir
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      Samir Manager Staff Benefactor Ambassador Team Tech Team Research Team Awareness

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      Sweden
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      12/2016
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      Bewitched ears
      Just curious, what kind of doctor is supposed to set TMD diagnosis? I will be seeing a dentist in 2 days. I hope she will refer me to some kind of specialist for this. My TMD, if I have it, may or may not be related to my tinnitus, as I was always listening to music and I had an acoustic shock less than a year ago. I always had some abnormal movement of my left jaw joint but it never bothered me, I had it for years. But I keep seeing people talking about this TMD thing and I want to know if I have it or not.
       
    21. Cal18
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      2010 / 2016 Both SSRI Withdrawal and Mild Hearing Loss
      @Samir Yes, I felt the same way, had a jaw thing for a long time (sometimes it would crack a little) but it was never really an annoyance. You dentist will probably refer one or I'm sure you can find one on your own.
       
    22. Samir
      Probing

      Samir Manager Staff Benefactor Ambassador Team Tech Team Research Team Awareness

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bewitched ears
      Yeah, I know how that is. Mine did not crack, it sounded more like a dull popping sound, and it still does. When I push my jaw forward I can hear it pop. When I open and close my mouth I can also hear like a grinding sound sometimes. I never payed much attention to this until I got tinnitus.

      A few months before tinnitus, I had a wisdom teeth removed on the left side. Since then I have had two moments where the jaw clicked very loudly when I yawned and open my moth too wide. I remember dentist asking me to try to open my mouth more widely when I had my tooth removed. Maybe I opened it a little bit too much, so now the joint is worse than it was.

      Again, I don't know if this all has anything to do with tinnitus. But it's good to check it out either way, since it is abnormal movement and it should not pop, crack, click or grind.
       
    23. Samir
      Probing

      Samir Manager Staff Benefactor Ambassador Team Tech Team Research Team Awareness

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bewitched ears
      @Cal18 Speaking of the devil, I just had a call from the dentist office. My appointment is cancelled because the dentist is sick, and they wanted to push me back to April. While I myself am sick, got a cold and I'm coughing but didn't want to cancel the appointment. Thankfully they found a time for the day after with another dentist. It's not like I care what dentist it is, all I really need is the referral. These are all just regular dentists, not specialists.

      Did your TMD relate to your tinnitus in any way? Did you go for surgery or some jaw rehab program?
       
    24. Cal18
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      Cal18 Member Benefactor Team Awareness

      Location:
      San Diego
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      2010 / 2016 Both SSRI Withdrawal and Mild Hearing Loss
      @Samir I don't know if it's TMJ related. It happened 2 months after a drug reaction that took 4 months to slowly heal. I was clenching the while time so there is a possibility of TMJ. I am slightly doubtful due to the nature of my T, it came on very violently and evenly in both ears with pressure fluctuations and pain and H. There is a lot activity.
       

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