Developed Acute Tinnitus Six Weeks Ago — Wondering What My Options Are. Thank You.

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    1. AUTHOR
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      What's the word on dosing for prednisone? Start dose? Does it increase or decrease over time? How long?
       
    2. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      My doctor told me that the rule of thumb is X mg per day, where X = your weight in kilograms = 2.2*your weight in lbs. The standard course is 14 days + tapering.

      I had experienced several acoustic shocks (e.g., slamming door, etc.) As a result of scarcity of prednisone pills, I would just take 3 50 mg pills, over the course of three days. I ended up not having a spike.
       
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      AUTHOR
      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Gotcha. Now, that's 14 days of the full dose, then a taper, or immediately begin the taper?
      I will be speaking with my ENT tomorrow morning about beginning a regimen of Pred and Ami. Let's hope (A) it's not too late to help me and (B) It actually helps me.
       
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    4. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      After you finish taking the full dose for two weeks, begin the taper.
       
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Quoting a conversation I had with my folks:
      "I need a 14 day supply of 30mg of Prednisone and a taper pack!"- "You'll be fine with just a taper!"
      "I need 50 mg of Ami for the first week and 100 mg per night the next five weeks!"- "Here's some mirtazapine! Take only 15 mg per day tho lol."
      Part of me hopes they end up with severe tinnitus so they can understand how I feel when they drag their feet on the prescription, give me weak doses of off-brand drugs, etc.
       
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    6. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Is it the case that you have a friend who can write prescriptions? Or is this just your family doctor?
       
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    7. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      You can try finding the research papers that describe the use of amitriptyline to treat T and show it to that person.
       
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    8. AUTHOR
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      They said they will help me on the ami. But all I get for pred is a taper pack.
       
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    9. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      At the very least they could have given seven 50 mg prednisone pills to you...
       
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    10. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      At least they didn't deny prednisone to you within 48 hours of the onset of your T (when it would have a relatively high chance of helping). When you take it within two weeks of onset, it is less effective, so you haven't lost that much...
       
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      It's been almost eight weeks.. (they also denied me pred so I had to go through a friend on this one)
       
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    12. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      If you can always get some pred, then that's ok. Otherwise, consider saving this pred for the time when you are unfortunate enough to be around a loud noise...
       
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      I am around loud noises all the time. Today my tinnitus was set off and went from a 5/10 to a 7/10 from being near an electric saw for about 10 seconds.
       
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    14. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I suggest that you change that.
      It took a fraction of a second to ruin 2017 for me.
       
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    15. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      Does HBOT work?
       
    16. AUTHOR
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Depends on who you ask. I'm not shelling out 3k for the procedure though.
       
    17. AUTHOR
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      I'm taking your advice seriously. I told my boss I was taking the rest of the day off and didn't know when I could come back in for work as I was dealing with medical issues. Not sure how I managed to finesse that but w/e. Not like I need the job, just had it to please my folks.

      I've had good results with the medication so far. I think the prednisone has been a massive help. The Meri also seems to be helping.

      Yesterday I woke up and had a remarkable 40+ minutes of little or no T. Had some after that, but it didn't come near baseline until someone decided to do some work with an electric saw as I was walking by. Even near baseline, I was able to sleep on my side again! The T now sounds more like a laser (or a computer fan noise with someone skipping their fingers off of it) and is definitely easier to ignore. Might just be wishful thinking as I've only been on the drugs two days. But it's working.
       
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    18. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      That's phenominal. Take a break and stay in quiet for a while. There's a very good chance you will recover I'm sure.
       
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    19. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      @threefirefour might have something to do with the fact that I just finished finals for the semester and might be a NEET next semester. Lots of time to relax suddenly and the brain begins to calm down. Although it doesn't fully explain why the recovery (if we can call it that yet) didn't seem to start happening at any point in the last eight weeks (and infact got worse).
       
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Want to give a few updates about my treatments.

      So I've weaned off the pred and the mertazapine. I can safely say there has been a significant decrease in my tinnitus and my hyperacusis as well. I can partially ignore my tinnitus until I am somewhere quiet, and it's really only bothersome because naturally I gravitate towards quiet situations. I can actually wear headphones again! I would say that if you are curious about these drugs, both are worth a try, however I took both at once, see which works better for you. For the record it has been 10 weeks since I have had moderate tinnitus (some days severe) and there was no improvement prior to medication. I would still say it is a 6.5/10, however it can come down towards 5 on certain days.

      The Mert did not do its work without side effects. I began having difficulty staying awake during the day and I put on 15 lbs (mostly worked off).

      Next I will be trying Gabapentin and NAC. Both will be taken on their own to see what works.
       
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    21. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Consider never using headphones again, even at low volume. Check out
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/isnt-it-ok-to-use-headphones-even-at-low-volume.25287/
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/search/2011950/?q=headphones&o=relevance&c[title_only]=1
       
    22. threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Please never use headphones or earbuds again.
       
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    23. sjtinguy

      sjtinguy Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise
      i dont use headphones but aren't all of the sound therapies out there basically ipods with special headphones?
       
    24. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Got the ami today. Will start with 2 25mg tablets tonight at bed, then after the New Years 4 25 mg tablets.
       
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      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      Two days in on Gabapentin and Amitriptyline. True to form I took both at once. 50mg per night of Ami and 300 per day of GP. Will double the dose come next Tuesday as planned.

      No noticeable changes in either direction. But damn, have I had some headaches in the past 48 hours. Which is odd because I haven't had any headaches in months that I can remember. Some moderately bad, some definitely worse. Current is almost migraine-tier.
       
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    26. David Dubros

      David Dubros Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Age
      Wow just wow.
      What an incredibly informative thread!
       
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    27. yahoo888

      yahoo888 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown maybe loud volum vai ear plug
      try HBOT and predisone, there are the only two treatments may work, although they didnt work on me.
       
    28. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      I will be trying Pred again. Both times I was given the taper pack I noticed a remarkable change. However the docs here have been reluctant to give me the full course (30 mg per day, 2 weeks, followed by taper pack) for whatever reason.

      HBOT I am kind of iffy on. It isn't covered by insurance here (my understanding) and to pay with cash is prohibitively expensive.
       
    29. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      The full dose is 1 mg per 1 kg of body weight...

      You might try going to different ER rooms. You might get 5 pills at each ER, so you would have enough prednisone in no time. Keep in mind that it is not particularly effective if you take it long after your initial acoustic trauma.
       
    30. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      RichardGuy
      Depressed

      RichardGuy Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/16/17, At Age 20
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acute
      So 80 mg? Holy crap, and there was a noticeable effect just on the taper pack. How am I going to convince them an 80 kg man needs 80 mg per day?
       
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