Does Your Doctor Listen to Your Ears?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Dr. Nagler, May 26, 2015.

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Have you had an ENT examination where your doctor actually listened to your ears with a stethoscope?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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    1. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Danny wins the Internet.
       
    2. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Haha.
       
    3. skoupidis

      skoupidis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma or mvc
      May I ask something: Can somatic tinnitus be reactive tinnitus? Getting louder by listening to loud sound I mean... Normally it shouldn't, right?
      So, if somebody has reactive T, it is safe to assume he hasn't somatic tinnitus caused by a vein or vascular compression etc.
      How certain is such an assumption?
       
    4. patwalsh
      Confused

      patwalsh Member

      Location:
      England , Isle of Wight
      Tinnitus Since:
      March 2015
      I'm feeling very down. Went to see the ENT consultant today.they gave me a hearing test and said there's been no hearing loss since my last test 9 yrs ago. He didn't ask me anything about what I've been experiencing the last 7 weeks. He only refererd me to the BTA website to read some articles. He wasn't even going to look in my ears until I asked him. Which when he did it took him about 5 seconds each ear! I said are going to listen to my ears and he said no there's no point. He I tried to explain to him I have problems with my neck and have nasal polyps and he said there's no connection. Eventually I ask if he was going to send me for a scan and he said yes, but only for my left inner ear.
      Feel very let down and stressed out. He also told me to go and see another doctor about my neck and that he can't do anything else
       
    5. skoupidis

      skoupidis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma or mvc
      Typical ENT behavior. They don't know what is wrong with you and they do not want to know. It is very frustrating indeed. Dr Naglers post should help, but doctors are the one that need to take his advice, not patients. It is hopeless, I didn't even bother going to any of my ENTs for this cause I know I will get the same attitude.

      No doctor knows what the heck this is, and they don't even bother to search for any clues. Suffice it to say the conclusion from this poll is that the doctors we go to don't give a damn!
       
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      Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member Clinician Benefactor

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
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      04/1994
      When I hire an electrician who doesn't seem to care, I fire that electrician and hire one who does - because the wiring in my house is very important to me.

      And when I hire a doctor who doesn't seem to care, I fire that doctor and hire one who does - because the wiring in my body is even more important to me than the wiring in my house.
       
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    7. patwalsh
      Confused

      patwalsh Member

      Location:
      England , Isle of Wight
      Tinnitus Since:
      March 2015
      That's very true Dr nagler. Though it's very difficult here in the UK. I asked the ENT Doctor today if he could refer me to someone who has experience with tinnitus. He didn't like the question and said we are all specialists
       
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    8. skoupidis

      skoupidis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma or mvc
      How many doctors should we try until we find one who cares? It is so hopeless... Each and every one of them I went to gave me the same attitude. The damage is irreparable and left it to that.
      Is it so difficult for them to try something?
       
    9. skoupidis

      skoupidis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma or mvc
      Dr Nagler would you please comment on the above hypothesis?
       
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      Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member Clinician Benefactor

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      Well, along my own tinnitus odyssey I actually did find a couple who cared, but none who could help me ... until my sixteenth attempt, that is. It was then I finally found one who both cared and could help me.
       
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      Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member Clinician Benefactor

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
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      04/1994
      I understand "very difficult" only too well. If we wanted "easy," in tinnitus you and I sure picked the wrong condition! Nothing about this is easy.
       
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      Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member Clinician Benefactor

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      May I ask something: Can somatic tinnitus be reactive tinnitus? Getting louder by listening to loud sound I mean... Normally it shouldn't, right?
      So, if somebody has reactive T, it is safe to assume he hasn't somatic tinnitus caused by a vein or vascular compression etc.
      How certain is such an assumption?


      This sort of question would be better asked on the Doctors' Corner. I'll keep an eye out for it.
       
    13. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Well, 94% of people haven't had a doctor listen to their ear. I suppose their doctors aren't listening.
       
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    14. bwspot

      bwspot Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/13/2014
      That is quiet a journey.
      I wonder if you were a doctor I though it would be easier to find a better specialist via reaching to other doctors you knew? I guess it is not?
      Now imagine somebody who can barely afford one or few. If you need so many attempts this just proves how hard is to deal with tinnitus and not that many know what to do with it. So frustrating but what else we can do.
       
    15. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      It's always easy for the rich to say they found "help".
       
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    16. or Americans. ...no such thing as " doctor shopping" here in Canada..
       
    17. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Well, a doctor having to go through 16 doctors to find one which helped says it all really. I mean, nobody can afford to go through that many on a normal wage.
       
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    18. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
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      karma
      This analogy resonates with me, but I'm relatively affluent. Go tell this to someone on a HMO or Medicaid...
       
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    19. Dennis MacDonald
      Confused

      Dennis MacDonald Member Benefactor

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      Bradenton, Fl
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      20 years
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      unknown
      Relatively few? Relatively? That's scary!
       
    20. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      beliefs are makyo and reality ignores them
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      What do you want? Relatively few of the people in my own industry are crooked, but I've worked for one. Are doctors cut from a different cloth than humans in general?
       
    21. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      They should have a trip doctor website. Reviews for doctors...I bet that'll clean up their act.
       
    22. We wouldn't even have 16 docs to go through.
       
    23. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      I know I can't! Dr. Nagler is wealthy and can afford to...I surely know I couldn't afford private health-care.
       
    24. They do here..you can rate your doc :)...still it's not easy finding a doc that takes on new patients and seeing a specialist can take years. My current pain doc has a 3 yr wait list. I waited 1.5 yrs.
       
    25. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Jesus...That's really bad, over here, you wouldn't wait even close to that time! They see you quite quickly over here. Jesus, 3 year waiting list.
       
    26. Me either. .or I'd simply cross the border and start doctor shopping.
       
    27. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Haha...That'll cost a load of money!
       
    28. I know..you guys seem to have a much better system than us..by far..
       
    29. Danny Boy
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      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Well, this says it all....http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/17/nhs-health

      The NHS has been declared the best healthcare system by an international panel of experts who rated its care superior to countries which spend far more on health.

      Although the NHS came third overall for the timeliness of care, its "short waiting times" were praised.
       
    30. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member Clinician Benefactor

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      That was pretty good, Danny Boy! I think I'll use it next time I give a tinnitus presentation at an ENT meeting. Funny. Pitifully true, but funny! Maybe the point will stick.
       
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