Horrid Loud Ping Noise When Taking Earplugs Out — Created a Vacuum in Ear Canal?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Allan1967, Mar 23, 2019.

    1. Hariz Nonis
      Loved

      Hariz Nonis Member

      Location:
      Singapore
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      What would your reasons for this be?

      Actually, my MEM started randomly as well. I was using earphones when it happened. But if I recall correctly, it wasn't right after I took out my earphones or anything like that. The earphones were already worn for quite a while.
       
    2. SergioN

      SergioN Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      25/07/2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma + ototoxicity
      AND WHAT about touching the earplug during those 5 seconds? These days I try to remove earplugs slowly... and today maybe I was more nervous or my hand vibrated but during those seconds that I grabbed the earplug, I felt a very amplified bass noise... like "buuuuuuu", probably due to the vibrations of my hand into earplug being transmitted to the ear canal and amplified due to occlusion effect.

      After two seconds of hearing that loud "buuuuu" I decided to remove it a little quicker... Because if I stopped and reset, it would again create more noise.

      ¿What do you think about these loud bass noises from the hand vibrations?
       
    3. Digital Doc

      Digital Doc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise induced
      Perhaps you need to try a different earplug. You may be getting this suction effect as it is too tight for you. See if you can try a smaller one and if it makes any difference. They also make custom plugs to avoid this issue.
       
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    4. SergioN

      SergioN Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      25/07/2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma + ototoxicity
      That loud bass 'buuuuuuu' only happens sometimes... especially if you touch them slowly and nervously. There must be like a resonant point where the bass sound is created and amplified due to the occlusion effect. If you move it quicker, it stops. I have used foam earplugs for years and I was never so slow to remove them. I started doing so when I read here about pressure issues. But maybe if you avoid the pressure issue you generate loud bass noise issues. I'm screwed whatever I do.
       
    5. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I can't imagine this being the result of your hand vibrating. This probably has something to do with your earplug design.
       
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    6. GoingGrayy

      GoingGrayy Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1220hz/1275hz - middle ear pressure/suction
      When you push in or take out earplugs that create a seal, you cause an increase in pressure (or suction/decrease in pressure, respectively) on the eardrum/ossicles attached to the eardrum (which make up your "middle ear"). Basically this action causes very mild barotrauma. For most people this doesn't matter, they can insert/remove sealing earplugs or headphones hundreds or thousands of times and never notice anything. But for some people, like me, and maybe you, this creates a tinnitus which doesn't resolve until the underlying mechanical (of the eardrum or ossicles, or maybe even something of the inner ear, who knows!!) change heals. The tone (for me, 1220hz/1275hz/1340hz/1420hz, that sometimes alternate in a morse-code like fashion) used to last a few minutes for me, but with every subsequent pressure/suction (especially if it occurred before the previous one had fully healed), the duration increases. Currently I'm at about a month for a full heal!

      If you have any questions, let me know. If you are experiencing fundamentally the same thing as I am, I'd love to help in any way I can, and I'd love to have any more information of your situation you can provide. I'm continuously trying to build my understanding of this thing/come up with testable theories of how it works/what worsens it/what improves it, so I can live with it better.

      The one thing I am quite sure about is it's an objective and/or somatic tinnitus produced by the mechanic damage to... whichever. My tinnitus tones for this particular issue, unlike some other tinnitus I have, interact harmonically (not sure thats the right word) with closely matched tones — I can make it wobble or sometimes negate it entirely if I get the frequency/phase just right.
       

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