How Many People Have Committed Suicide on This Forum?

How does any of this help the original poster who is suffering and considering suicide himself?! Does anybody even care?

 

I'm sorry for getting drawn into a debate about stats but sincerely hope @jdjd09 finds the help he needs. It's not nice to see anyone suffering and crying out for help. I really wish there was more I could do than offer words of support.

 

No, you wish that to be the case. That's the problem (because the outcome of the study doesn't suit your belief system). Clinical Otolaryngology is a scientific journal, not a 3rd grade essay.

It is peer reviewed. Why do you need to prove something which has already been proven. If there wasn't basis for the conclusions in the article, it would not have been published.

Do you also need to prove the existence of gravity twice? I think once is enough - if done to scientific standards, right?

 

all of them could be published, go into the researchers curriculum vitae, maybe someone would do a meta analysis with all of them. Maybe more researchers around the world would do their own papers, which would take years.

In the end, the most we could say would be: "There is evidence of correlation". Which is very different from "T causes suicide". Maybe someone would look at the data again with a different method and find a whole different conclusion. That's how real science is done.

You know, I had some luck. I got published, met some very smart people, even talked to a Nobel winner or two. Getting T was hard, I let go a book contract. But I know my math and this sole paper says nothing.

As for the "Edge of Science", I notice he started ignoring me after I criticized him elsewhere. Funny thing, he was all happy when a "Celebrity" clicked on a Facebook post of his, before discovering who was the said "celebrity". Science and Sciency are very different things.

@Michael2013 I agree with you. As I have a good understanding of scientific literature, I decided to post only to call it as I see it. I don't want people to think that one article summary is a whole scientific conclusion.

If you're thinking about suicide, please reach for a Doctor.

 

Exactly @Zug. I still don't see the relevance to all this or how one study based on 17,446 people concludes anything.

 

No thanks, that is just plain sad. Things can get better or worse over time, depending on many factors. In this particular case, a young man could go from suicidal to functional. I guess that's worth putting one's ego aside -agree.?

And that's just offensive behaviour. It also reminds me of some recent scientific article I stumbled upon. An interesting read indeed:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...rolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists