I Can Turn My Tinnitus 100% Off with a Single Tone

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    1. RicoS
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      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      Ok this might sound weird but it works 100% for me. And no it's not a cure cause it only last about 5 minutes but it gives me 5 minutes of complete silence.
      As lot of you people may have done this, downloading an app to mask your T.
      I found an app to generate a tone called "Stop Tinnitus" in the PlayStore.
      I downloaded it and the user interface was pretty simpel so I put my headphone on and tried to find the tone closest to my T.
      The app looks like this btw:
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      This is also the setting of the tone I hear in my head.
      When I listen to this for about a minute or so and I take my headphone off and put my fingers in my ear it's completly silent !!!!!! As if my brain or innerear did not make my T because the exact sound came also from outside. After 5 minutes or so I can hear it slowly come back. In the evening when my T is the loudest the last 3 days I use this app or before I go to sleep. Sleeping for me was never a problem so 5 minutes of complete silence is enough to fall a sleep.

      I also tried other frequencies and if it does not match my T ....my T stays the same. But when I put almost the exact sound in my ear for a minute it is just not there for 5 minutes or so. I even tried to use is for an hour and listen to this sound ....because it't the same as my T so it didn't make a lot of difference, but also after even an hour it just stayed away for 5 minutes.
      I'm no doctor or whatever, but to me it realy looks like if my brain says :"Well you give me this sound which I normaly make for you so I just quit for now because you already giving it yourself"

      Is there anybody else here who has this exact same thing. I just cannot be the only one who tried this...am I ????

      The 5 minute releave makes me another person because I know that I now can have 5 minutes of complete silence. The positive thing I also think is .... "If this works....perhaps it's possible to tell my brain never to make this sound again....the problem is how??" It gives me a feeling that something in my head is overactive and stop being that if I give it the exact same tone as my tinnitus.

      I hope some of you might want to try it. I don't think you have to use only this app, but any tonegenerator which can mimic you T would do.

      If you have questions let me know?
       
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    2. Martin69
      Artistic

      Martin69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      (Health) Anxiety
      Hi Rico.
      Sounds like residual inhibition. Activating your auditory contex in other ways cause your T to disappear. I have that when I listen to crickets or if I am in the garden with the lawn trimmer. Or sometimes after taking a shower.
      But for me it is only silence for about 5 seconds, not 5 minutes.
      So maybe you can listen to the app in intervals and get breaks from your T.
      And maybe after a while T disappears longer than 5 minutes.
       
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    3. RicoS
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      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      I just watched this video
      TODAY SHOW with Dr Stephen Nagler 1997

      and William Shatner also says that he used a maskingdevice that was almost the same as his tinnitus and after a while his brain learned to ignore it. So perhaps it's the same with my tonegenerator also.

      Martin69: Yes it's almost 5 minutes every time and I try to see if I listen more to it my tinnitus becomes less or stays away longer. It;s just that one tone that does it...every other tone does not have effect on my T..... very weird!!
       
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    4. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      I wish I heard the same sound as shatner...shhhhh doesn't sound so bad!
       
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    5. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      A friend of mine has the shhhhh sound and he says it's realy loud. Mine sound like eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee but perhaps both are not what you want *laugh* you just want silence.
      But............ has anybody tried what I did with the tonegenerator. It's 18:49 in the Netherlands now and I notice my T is a bit louder so I used the app....and now I have 5 minutes of silence. It does not matter how loud my T is it still works.
       
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    6. Marlene
      English

      Marlene Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Poole Dorset England
      Tinnitus Since:
      July 1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bacterial virus
      Thanks Ricos,this was an interesting selection you put up,will get family to see these,as fair few got no idea what it is we hear all day every day,the maskers William Shatner showed are like the same I've got,Thought Dr Nagler explained it well ,let's hope more comes from this being shown to the public.Thanks again
      .ps I've got hissing T,all noise is aggravating with T
       
    7. Martin69
      Artistic

      Martin69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      (Health) Anxiety
      I have also installed the app now. My T is much higher. Difficult to find out, but definitely above 8000.
      Very high-pitched. Nothing can mask it. Unfortunately when I listen to it, my T only disappears for some seconds.
      Overall, I still don't know what the right strategy is, masking or listening to T full power getting used to it.
      But I think, since TRT recommends sounds, better to have some sound in the background running.
       
    8. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      I always and I mean ALWAYS have birdsounds on through my telephone. Even at work. Nobody has a problem with it but it realy make me forget about my T. I even don't hear the birdsounds anymore sometimes because it's so relaxing :) I try to follow the TRT principle that you always need to have background sound. The tone I hear is not realy high it's still eeeeeeeeeeeeee but it was way higher last year. Last year when it started it was so hight that it hurt my ears and it gave me a burning feeling in my ears. I notice when I realy focus when I use the app and it is silent that I hear a very high tone in the distance...that one is above 8000 I guess but it's realy low volume. But in stress periods I can hear it together with the 2799 tone. But the 2799 is the main one.
      Sometimes when I have a spike ...i'm happy to have my 2799 back :) because it makes me realize things can be much worse.
      One thing I do notice is that the more relax I am the lower my T is. When I 'm angry about anything it becomes louder and spikes come. I read in the book about T of Jastreboff and Hazell that a lot of things are connected to your emotion. So I just do not try to get angry about anything. I was realy short tempered ....but I learned in a year to be more relax *laugh*
      Is my T becoming lower in volume....yes it has.... or perhaps it did not ..... let me put it this way. When I put my fingers in my ear right now.... I hear it..... but not so loud. If I keep listening to it...it becomes louder and louder. I guess because it's the only thing left for my brain to focus on.
      My girlfriend also has T very loud....but here is the thing.... she can block it completly....
      I asked here in a silent room ..."Can you hear something" ...she focused and said...yes a very high eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sound real hard .... she said but I don't want to hear it and now it's gone.
      If she wants to hear it she can focus on it and hear it and she told me with the tonegenerator what it sound like and it's even louder than my T. ....can you believe that. But her brain can just ignore it and she doesn't hear a thing only when she wants to.
      So that is why I believe we can train ourself not to hear it. Problem is....we are busy with it 24/7... during work during sport ...we always think about it ... do i hear it now...do I hear it now....let put my finger in my ear....yes it's still thereor sometimes we cannot mask it , it's just there. We train our brain to focus on it instead of not to focus on it.
      It's like a bug on you carwindow when you are driving....you do not notice it but when you are aware there is a bug on your window....you keep seeing it.

      It's tuff to untrain yourself from something and that's why you need a positive attitude for it...so that I understand. But that is very hard for something you do not want to hear. But if you make progress you know there is light at the end of the tunnel. I try different things to get my mind of it and it works most of the time and I must be patient.
      But the thing with this tonegenerator that it completly lowers my T is very strange....... I try to test with it some more and I am realy using it before I go to sleep. To experience complete silence for only 5 minutes.
      Sorry for my bad english I just type without spellchecking *laugh*

      PS : I found the low volume tone I hear when the other one is gone for 5 minutes at 7444 . When I first listn to 2799 en right after that to 7444 it's realy completly silent I cannot hear a damn thing for 5 minutes or so
       
    9. Martin69
      Artistic

      Martin69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      (Health) Anxiety
      Excellent explanation Rico.
      My wife also sometimes has T. But she doesn't bother about it.
      But her is not as loud as mine. I played a dog whistle to her and she agreed this is another category.
      Nevertheless it is indeed all about not concentrating on it.
      The thing is that T still has 100% my focus. Only if I am really, really busy with something else, I am not aware of it.
      For example being on the golf driving range or swimming where the water sound is around me.
      I haven't found a way yet to untrain my brain. :-(
       
    10. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      I think it's something you can not do consciously. I'm an expert in Mixed Martial Arts (Jiu Jitsu and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) I learned the technics but when I fight... I do not know why I do something. People ask me...what do you do when I do this to you or when I do that to you..... I don't know...my body just reacts to the situation in a positive way so I win :)

      But lets translate this to T..... T attacks me...and I'm in panic mode so I loose the fight because I do not know what to do. But if I learn what to do.... it takes a lot of time to make it my second nature just like me fighting on autopilot. If I do not fight on autopilot my reactions are to late...and sometimes I come in situations I never been before so I more busy figuring out what to do during the fight.
      T is almost the same.... it asks a reaction of you that you consciously react to. But if over time the situation you T confronts you with....you will handle it on autopilot.
      Just like you do not notice blinking with your eyes the whole day or that you are breathing the whole day or that you can you see you nose all the time (the last one is a funny one that can drive you mad :) )
      Just think about itching... and you can scratch your whole body cause there is always something on you body that is itching. But we ignore and our brain deals with it on autopilot.
      I'm no doctor or something but I'm realy selfaware and can analyse myself realy good. T made me a person for 4 month that I realy never thought I could be. I didn't want to live anymore , cried a lot....people see a guy from 94kg pure muscle with a fighterspirit become a wreck in just a couple of days. I didn't even knew myself anymore.....
      Why can I speak of it so freely now....because my T seems to become less .... and the feeling that I can make it silent for 5 minutes gives me a lot of positive energy. I used to take magnesium , ginko, vinpocitine, zinc , B12, D , you name it I took everthing....just hoping it would help....but it didn't because it's me reacting in panic to T.
      I did not train my brain ...I just trained myself to take a lot of stuff and pray god it would become less.
      How can you train your brain..... I don't know....if you not focus on your T ..you are doing it because you think "I do not focus on my T *laugh* "
      But I do know that not reacting negative to it even when it's loud...and believe mine was so loud I could hardly hear somebody speak. What helped for me in the beginning is talk talk talk talk....talk so much about you get bored of your self. Some of my friends also have T so they can relate to it... .... you notice you will talk less about it every month and with a spike your back to square one but you can let it go more easly.
      After a while you accept the masking and it becomes second nature....."wait what did I say"..... it becomes second nature....so your masking it but it becomes a day to day routine and like I said I forget about the birdsounds sometimes.....and than I also forget about my T.
      A friend of mine with T also asked why do you put your fingers in your ear when you know it makes the T much louder.... I said... I don't know.... I'm not ready to accept it yet. So I keep listening to it to hear if it becomes less loud. I did that almost 20 times ...well 100x times a day. Everywhere I was I have put my fingers in my ear to hear if it was still there. Than one day I said ....I will not do it anymore.....so than I did it only 10 times a day *laugh*.
      But it is important not fool yourself but to set goals. I know do it 5 times a week or so to hear if there is any difference. I do not want to do it but ... I just do it *laugh* It's like quit smoking I guess
      So what they say about not having a negative feeling about your T is not that single line of words
      It's a proces that can take many months or years..... if it was that easy I would go to a doctor and I say "Hey dude I got T what can I do " , Doctor: "Don't be negative about it" and I would say "Doctor my T is gone thanks!!!!!"
      That is not how it works it's to simple ... just as they say... learn to live with it. How stupid is that...it's T.... if I don't learn to live with it it's there and if I learn to live with it it's there. I'm still alive so I live with it no matter what.
      I just want silence ... and if I can train my brain to ignore it fine...if I hear it and it doesn't bother me...fine... .
      It is what you want...and what you accept as being ok...how you get there is a path we all have to find....but listen to eachother can make the way easier....it's never wrong to ask directions.
      I know what I typed just now is a mix of things but it's me typing what comes into my mind.
      I'm still negative about T....but less than when it started. Can I train my brain to ignore it... I believe so..I'm 25% there .... perhaps it's a illusion well if this illusion does not make me hear my T than illusion it is....
      For some it's harder when T cannot be masked, but my T was also like that and I tried everything to mask it and you have to give it time....
      One thing you must NOT do....thinking that perhaps it becomes worse.... that will never help you. If my arm hurt or I become sick I also do not think.... PERHAPS IT BECOMS WORSE..... deal with it in the here and now.... you do not know what happens tomorrow and if you wait for that another day of your life is passed!
      .....i go to bed know.... using the app now and get my 5 minuts of silence!!
       
    11. Heriberto

      Heriberto Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      July 2014
      Hi! I'm just finding out about this Site as I was looking for help about an ad that sells something that promises to turn off the ringing. I stumbled on this Site and your comments, I was impressed because last night I was watching something about sound waves Cymatics forms etc.. and they played several tones very high ones and I felt the ringing in my ear diminish substantially, I was in the process of trying to find an equipment that would play these high notes and I saw your comments! Great! I'm going to get the App!?.. Bye for now and thanks for confirming my hunch!!

      H.N.
       
    12. RicoS
      Confused

      RicoS Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress or Acoustic trauma
      Today I had a huge spike and I paniced a little I must admit because the spike didn't go away in 30 sec and was there for about 2 hours ... I used this app and thought perhaps it can lower my spike if I find the right frequency.....
      1st try didnt work. Second try...complete silence .... after 5 minutes mu base T came back and I'm all good to go now.
      I don't know if it was a coincidence but I guess not.
      Still It's not a cure but it gives me and perhaps others a moment of silence. I even tried to listen to it 3 hours last week. But still only 5 to 10 minuten of silence and than it comes back.
       
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