It's Official: You Can Blast Your Ears Without Risks!

Discussion in 'Health Talk' started by attheedgeofscience, Jul 29, 2017.

    1. attheedgeofscience
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      attheedgeofscience Member Podcast Patron Mighty Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Resolved since 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown (medication, head injury)
      The following article...

      www.inverse.com/article/34744-headphones-aren-t-making-teens-deaf

      ...was based on a newly released research paper on trends related to hearing loss in adolescents. However, the article apparently refers to the wrong study via the embedded link:

      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/2643553

      The linked article by "Inverse Science" should have been this one (as far as I can tell) - both studies were released on the same day (possibly the reason for the error):

      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2643552

      Regardless, the author Dan Robitzski goes on to state in his blog:
      So there you have it, folks - go ahead and fry your ears. You are safe. Because, as you know, if you read on the Internet, then it must be true, right?

      So what would constitute a valid counter argument (in relation to both the article and the research)? Well, both studies were carried out using demographics in children. To develop hearing loss actually takes "a bit" of time. In addition, hearing loss doesn't show up on an audiogram until more damage has been done to the cochlea than previously thought. Put another way, the inner ear can be damaged without seeing the effects immediately in an audiometric assessment. There are a number of potential reasons for that (the interested reader can search the Frontiers Research Topic for key words such as "stochastic resonance" and "hidden hearing loss").
       
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    2. Elinor
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      Elinor Member Benefactor

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      Noise exposure and barotrauma
      Dumbest thing I've read so far. Dumber than putting garlic in your ear to "cure" T.
       
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    3. hoper
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    4. jeff W

      jeff W Member

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      Have you seen Antinitus?
      Antinitus or Banana?
       
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    5. dingaling
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      dingaling Member

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      2016
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      This sounds like b*llocks.

      Google "cochlear synaptopathy" and see what turns up? Some high frequency hearing losses cannot be detected on a standard hearing test. It's like telling diabetics to consume more carbohydrates
       
    6. pathworker2017
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      pathworker2017 Member

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      2012 approx
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      currently unknown, conductive hearing loss suspected
      mmmm, my bullshitometer just went through the roof!!.

      take a gander at the spectogram of any complex sound and you will discover that there are harmonics(overtones, partials or whatever you want to call them) that lie outside the human hearing spectrum( 20 Htz to 20 Khtz for a healthy young person). any loss occurring above about 8Khz will NOT be picked up on a standard audiometric test.
       
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