Loud Exposure (Fireworks), Please Help

Discussion in 'Support' started by Seawater7, Jun 16, 2018.

    1. Seawater7

      Seawater7 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      5 years
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      So I was walking outside last night when I heard a loud firework go off from behind my neighbors house, I was walking in the street so the distance must have been about 80ft from the firework that appeared over their house, and not very high up. I heard the consumer legal fireworks here can be 150 dB to 170 dB.

      I instantly put my hands to my ears and heard a increase in my tinnitus.

      Can this cause hearing damage??

      I feel so frustrated as I am always careful about protecting my ears.

      Was I far enough to be safe for sure or am I at risk?

      Feeling overwhelmed.

      Thank you
       
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    2. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      April 2011
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      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @Seawater7 I experienced the same as you last year at about the same distance. I think I posted about it. I had a low spike for a few days, but maybe not because my tinnitus ranges between very loud and super loud. Whenever I have a loud noise experience, usually within a week or two I will experience slightly lower T than my normal for a few days. I used magnesium glycinate at 200mg for a few days after a noise exposure.
       
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    3. Tweaker
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      Noise exposure
      You can use the inverse square law to calculate the approximate sound level you were exposed to.
      http://www.wkcgroup.com/tools-room/inverse-square-law-sound-calculator/
      I doubt the firework would be more than 150db. Let's say the firework was 150db and you were 80 feet away, you could have been exposed to around 120db (although nearby buildings can dampen the sound), which is generally considered the maximum level of sudden noise, before your hearing is harmed. You should be OK. I have had a similar experience without any long term changes to T. Most of us have had these expereinces, and at the time they cause a lot of anxiety. I had a huge balloon bang about 1 metre away from me inside a friends house. It was no ordinary sized balloon, it was a least 3 times the size. A kid was playing with it as I was walking past and BANG. It must have been over 120 db and in a small hallway. I cringe when I think about it but I didnt notice any changes in my hearing. I prefer increases to T than any loss of hearing.
       
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      Seawater7

      Seawater7 Member

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      Thank you.. i am still worried though that the decible level could have been 170 though and that i might have hearing damage because of this at 80ft.
       
    5. Elfin
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      Elfin Member Benefactor

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      I think it would be nearly impossible for you to be exposed to 170db, given the distance, the open air and the fact that they are around that loud at the point of explosion.

      People exposed to bomb blasts report immediate ringing, fullness and deafness from the noise. You are not reporting that.

      It has been an exposure to a loud noise and will certainly result in anxiety. Best thing you can try and do is calm yourself and take your mind away from worrying about it. I know this is very difficult, but the exposure will likely have been much less than 170db
       
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      Seawater7

      Seawater7 Member

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      How can i know if the neighbor shooting off a large firework will cause me hearing damage?

      They launch up about 30ft above the house it looks like and they are very loud. How is this legal?

      I read they are up to 170db?

      Does anyone know how loud consumer fireworks that launch and explode like a real firework show are. I know they are not as loud as the city uses but they are much closer to us.

      The decible per meter charts make no sense to me
       
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    7. GregCA
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      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      What chart are you talking about specifically? (a link to the chart would help)

      I suspect it's an attenuation chart (ie how decibels decrease with distance from the sound source). What do you not understand about it?
       
    8. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      injury from noxious noise
      yes, they are very loud and can cause permanent hearing damage.
       
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      Seawater7

      Seawater7 Member

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      Yes, that chart. I don't understand how to determin how many desibles decrease by 80ft.

      Thank you
       
    10. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Can you provide a link so we both look at the same chart?
       
    11. Starthrower
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      Starthrower Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      Ugg. The Forth of July is my worse nightmare holiday. Where I live a huge barge is charted and sets off thousands of dollars worth of display over the ocean. We live right at the cliff of the action and the sounds are so painful and so close up and twice as bad because of the water and usual overcast that traps the blast noises.

      This area is usually shut down so there is no leaving unless you go away a week before hand. Thousands of people come in this area for the event.

      What do I usually do? Cotton balls tightly rolled up and my bose headset. Even with that the bone conduction still occurs just like at the dentist drilling.
       
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      Seawater7

      Seawater7 Member

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      What would 170 db be at 80 feet though?
      I heard 140db can cause hearing damage
       
    13. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

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      About a month ago, I was subjected to a noise that I was sure would cause damage. My tinnitus spike ended up being temporary. Try to stay calm. There is still a good chance that you will be ok.
       
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    14. Tweaker
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      170db at 80 feet away would be around 140db.
       
    15. dfw
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      dfw Member

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      2016
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      sports arena
      To quote “we are the unluckiest people” as far as noises go. Always seem to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

      This is the typical perception I, as well as most people I’ve read here. Just a couple of my “unlucky” (a bus horn sounded as I was walking on the sidewalk, right when he was beside me—a jet flys over me at low altitude—a plate drops in restaurant—a loud intercom at Home Depot, etc)

      My perception of noise changed dramatically when my T started, where these brief loud sounds never bothered me, now they terrify me. I know it’s anxiety driven. I always try to calculate the dB level as well. My T will spike-an hour, a day, 3 or 4 days, maybe even a week or so, like with the bus, but it always calms back down.

      In theory, T levels can be affected by anxiety levels and I firmly believe that these sudden loud noises that “only we hear” are magnified in our brains.

      Please try and reassure yourself, it will be OK. The sooner you quit expensing all this energy on something you cannot change, the sooner the healing can begin.

      All the best to you, it will be fine. Please believe that.
       
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    16. Striveon

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      What was your spike from??? I just experienced a firework about 3 houses away in my backyard :( I'm scared!!! I took NAC and magnesium.
       
    17. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

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      I've had countless spikes, as a result of things like slamming doors. In addition, I have been reading this forum over the past 29 months, and I got to read about other people's spikes. Permanent spikes are rare. If you were right next to the firework, I would worry. I think you can safely assume that this is going to be a temporary spike. Note that temporary spikes can last for over three months. If you don't experience any fading within the next 4-6 weeks, than it would be worrisome.
       
    18. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      You do realize the two are linked?
       
    19. PortalNaut

      PortalNaut Member

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      Late 2/2018
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      Noise Induced
      I'm sorry this won't directly be helpful but on the recent 4th, we were about 2000 feet from a large commercial fireworks display. At our seats, most of the larger explosions were 95db. Many were quieter. Then the finale with tons going off at once was 100db.

      I wore earplugs the whole time just to be safe.

      Now using an attenuation calculator, it says working backwards the source explosion would have been 160db; a different calculator says 155 db. The 155db taken at 80 feet would be attenuated down to 122db, according to that last calculator.

      I can't say the affect of momentary 122db, but I suspect it would be temporary. Good luck!
       

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