Supplements & Tinnitus — What Do You Take? What Should I Take?

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by oatsey, Mar 25, 2013.

    1. PamelaNY

      PamelaNY Member

      Location:
      New York
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Thank you!
       
    2. PamelaNY

      PamelaNY Member

      Location:
      New York
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I tried taking Ginko Biloba; however, I had to discontinue it after 2 weeks because it was resulting in stomach pains.
       
    3. Lebber
      Scared

      Lebber Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      mild head trauma (muscle tension)
      Coincidently i was reading my old uni texbooks yesterday which contained a lot of info on nutrition and nerve and muscle functioning.

      What a make of it:

      Curcumin (turmeric) and omega 3 are great against imflamation if that contributes to your tinnitus. Omega 3 is best taken from fish oil and not plant based since uptake is much better from fish. Omega 6 is already good available in western diet and to much omega 6 contributes to inflamation.
      Curcumin is also good for blood flow just like gingko. Make sure curcumin is combined with piperin or micells for good uptake.

      Magnesium citrate for muscle relaxation and it promotes sleep. But too much magnesium can decrease calcium which is also necesarry for normal muscle function. So take it with moderation.

      Some people take melatonin or valerian for sleep. Melatonin protects against ototoxicity. Unfortunatly melatonin is a prescription drug where i life because its concidered as a hormone treatment. High doses of melatonin for long periods can be habit forming (but not as serious as for ex. Benzos). Valerian is also good for sleep and stress reducing.

      And finally the classics: vit b, zinc and vit d. Because defiency in those can cause tinnitus. Vit b (and a) defency is seen most compared to the other vitamines. But i personally think you dont need them on a daily basis if bloodwork checks out fine. There are some people who have problems with vit b uptake via oral suplementation. But thats up to the doctor to diagnose of course.
       
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    4. Lebber
      Scared

      Lebber Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      mild head trauma (muscle tension)
      Too much vit c can actually cause kidney stones. Because the excess of vit c will be filtered out by the kidneys.
       
    5. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      You gotta be careful indeed, especially if you're a man: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26463139
       
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    6. Lebber
      Scared

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      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      mild head trauma (muscle tension)
      Yes, moderation is always healthy. I personally think vit c suplements are a good thing. You cant really overdose on it. And you need a lot of vit c for a long period to actually cause kidney stones. But of course with all things taking way to much can be harmful.
       
    7. hans01
      Artistic

      hans01 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Stress, hearing loss (?), sleep apnea, bruxism
      Very good advice, I take omega 3 from fish oil since a few weeks and it's very good, also for mood. Regarding Magnesium, I had to find it out first hand, for some reason I didn't take enough calcium and then too much magnesium seemed to give me muscle and breathing issues, so indeed be careful not to take too much and always with Vitamin D.

      I have to add L-Glycine, this stuff is really great, our western diet is too poor in glycine, we need almost 10g a day, and find it helps on a lot of things https://selfhacked.com/blog/glycine-little-protein/

      This is in french, but great info on the health benefits of Glycine :

      http://www.julienvenesson.fr/la-science-devoile-le-secret-de-la-longevite/
       
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    8. Rajin

      Rajin Member Benefactor

      Location:
      PA
      Tinnitus Since:
      9/7/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss ,noise
      What is the best Magnesium to take for T ,there are many.
       
    9. Lebber
      Scared

      Lebber Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      mild head trauma (muscle tension)
      Thanks on the advice on glycine. :) I don't know much about glycine. Always nice to learn more about these things. I understand French so no problem.
       
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    10. Fmykoul

      Fmykoul Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01Jan 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear cleaning
      I took two pills before going to sleep last night. This morning woke to almost complete silence which lasted all long
       

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    11. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

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      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Magnesium bis glycinate is not a laxative, unlike many of the other kinds.
       
    12. Striveon

      Striveon Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      How can vitamins help tinnitus? Is it possible to possibly have a cure towards tinnitus? What vitamins do you take?
      - Thank You :)
       
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    13. Striveon

      Striveon Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      How have you felt with tinnitus? Have you been in complete silence ever since or how has it worked?
       
    14. Fmykoul

      Fmykoul Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01Jan 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear cleaning
      My T started after an infection from a ruptured ear drum healed. The vitamin is anti-inflammatory and really makes a difference with reducing the sound in my ears.
       
    15. Striveon

      Striveon Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Has anyone tried niacin flush? I am taking niacin flush 100 mg.

      It caused a spike but I'm going to give it another shot and see what happens. Does it help you???
       
    16. Frédéric

      Frédéric Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Marseille, France
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/19/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      Over‐the‐Counter Tinnitus “Cures”: Marketers’ Promises Do Not Ring True
      Varun Vendra MD
      Yona Vaisbuch MD
      Albert C. Mudry MD, PhD
      Robert K. Jackler MD
      First published: 25 December 2018
      https://doi.org/10.1002/lary.27677
      Presented at the Triological Society Annual Meeting at COSM National Harbor, Maryland, U.S.A., April 20, 2018.
      The authors have no funding, financial relationships, or conflicts of interest to disclose.

      Abstract

      Objectives
      The Clinical Practice Guideline of the American Academy of Otolaryngology–Head & Neck Surgery (2014) stated that clinicians should not recommend dietary supplements for the treatment of tinnitus. The aim of this study is to characterize over‐the‐counter tinnitus remedies (OTCTR) on the U.S. market, describe the ingredients and prices, and characterize the methods of promoting these products.

      Methods
      OTCTR were identified via Web search and visits to retail establishments. Information was collected regarding OTCTR chemical composition, product labeling, advertisements and marketing, price, and customers reviews.

      Results
      A wide array of unproven OTCTR exist on today's market. All make unfounded claims of relief from ear ringing. Most of the products considered in this study consist of mixtures of inexpensive and common vitamins, minerals, and/or herbs sold at a premium compared to similar preparations not expressly advertised for tinnitus. Certain brands, most notably Arches Tinnitus Formula (Arches Natural Products Inc., Salt Lake City, UT) and Lipo‐Flavonoid (Clarion Brands Inc., Solon, OH), target otolaryngologists by advertising in specialty journals and prominently featuring supposed endorsement by “Ear‐Nose‐and‐Throat Doctors” in their marketing.

      Conclusion
      It is important for otolaryngologists who are caring for tinnitus sufferers to be aware that a robust and diverse market exists for unproven OTC tinnitus remedies. It is troubling that heavily advertised brands profess support by otolaryngologists. Responsible specialty organizations in the field should consider opposing such commercially motivated representations. Otolaryngology journals may wish to adopt a policy along the lines of The Journal of the American Medical Association publications to decline advertisements of dietary supplements that make unproven therapeutic claims.

      Level of Evidence
      5. Laryngoscope, 2018

      Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/lary.27677
       
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    17. TuxedoCat
      No Mood

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      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      high frequency hearing loss
      Thanks very much for posting this, Ferderic,

      Now that they've published on all the things that don't work, what are they doing to raise awareness and encouraging research to find a cure? They mention that some ENTs recommend these products which suggests they are also desperate for effective treatments for their patients.

      I'll be sending the corresponding author an email.

      Thanks, TC
       
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    18. TuxedoCat
      No Mood

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      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      high frequency hearing loss
      Here is the text of the email which I have sent to Jackler@stanford.edu. If I can figure out how to send a letter to the editor of Laryngoscope, I will send this there as well. Feel free to comment. If you would like to send an email to Dr. Jackler, the corresponding author on the paper, please feel free to "lift" any of the text below. Thanks, TC

      Dear Dr. Jackler,

      I am a member of Tinnitus Talk, the online support forum for the tinnitus community. Recently one of our members posted the abstract of your recent article Over-the-Counter Tinnitus “Cures”: Marketers’ Promises Do Not Ring True in which you and your co-authors inform otolaryngologists that OTC remedies for tinnitus are unproven and go on to urge specialty organizations in the field to oppose advertisements that claim the products are recommended by otolaryngologists.

      While I agree with the message of your article, I would like to suggest that you consider the deeper issue which enables these products to flourish with support from healthcare professionals.

      The first records of tinnitus date from the era of ancient Egypt, yet five thousand years later there are no effective treatments for the condition. The American Tinnitus Association reports that nearly 20 million Americans are dealing with burdensome tinnitus on a regular basis and approximately 2 million are struggling with severe, sometimes debilitating tinnitus. The tinnitus community is desperate for relief, making it the target for products based on pseudoscience and quackery. Tinnitus sufferers are seeking medical help from their primary care physicians and ear nose and throat specialists only to be told to “learn to live with it”. Tinnitus sufferers deserve better than this and are demanding it. Otolaryngologists are turning to and endorsing unproven OTC products because the they need treatments for their tinnitus patients. In order to fulfill this need, more tinnitus research, based in the hard sciences, is needed.

      The National Deafness and Other Communication Disorders (NDCD) Advisory Council advises the National Institutes of Health on matters relating to the support of research and health information dissemination. On behalf of the tinnitus community, I urge you, your co-authors, all primary care physicians, otolaryngologists and other healthcare professionals to contact Judith Cooper, PhD, Acting Director, National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders, cooperj@nidcd.hih.gov, and request funding for more research for effective treatments leading to cures for tinnitus. The availability of effective medical treatment, and not just management strategies, will put an end to the market for nutritional supplements claiming to provide relief or cure tinnitus.

      Until this occurs, it is likely that unproven OTC products will continue to be available and the medical community will remain complicit in promoting such ineffective and overpriced products to their tinnitus patients.


      Sincerely,
       
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    19. Leodavinci
      Bookworm

      Leodavinci Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Kansas
      Tinnitus Since:
      6/26/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Idiopathic + Sudden hearing loss
      It is important to understand the medical community and medical research in the context of their huge and continuing public health disasters. The American Heart Association, the American Diabetes Association and the Federal Government continue to recommend a low fat diet. There is no basis for this in the clinical research and no basis in the biochemistry of lipid metabolism. It is a public health failure that has not self corrected after 50 years. Read Gary Taubes. This failure to come to sensible conclusions about simple matters such as what to eat in the face of tens of thousands of research papers published each year on these topics is remarkable. The health authorities and associations have failed and the researchers themselves have failed the public.

      Now consider how likely it is that the research and consensus making bodies in other health and medicine fields are also deeply flawed? It is a certainty.
       
    20. Leodavinci
      Bookworm

      Leodavinci Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Kansas
      Tinnitus Since:
      6/26/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Idiopathic + Sudden hearing loss
      I appreciate you posting this study and do not necessarily disagree with it. I cannot read it as it costs $43 to read the paper - outrageous and typical.

      What is interesting is that the authors stress that the Tinnitus therapies "studied" are expensive relative to their constituent vitamins. Keep in mind they only argue that they are unsubstantiated therapies, unproven to work. The study did not test the supplements as far as I can tell. The Arches formula costs about $1 a day and the seller suggests taking it for 100 days to see if it works for you. My good friend just saw an orthopedic surgeon for an opinion about his spine. The X-ray was billed at $1030 and the consultation at $230. His out of pocket with "good" insurance was $400. The idea that supplements are expensive is mentioned in ANY AND ALL news articles summarizing their use and in most everything I have ever read online. "They are expensive!!!" "Vitamins just make expensive urine!" "Doctors say they are not proven to work and just cost consumers lots of money!" This ubiquitous critique of vitamins as expensive makes me deeply suspicious. Vitamins are TRIVIALLY INEXPENSIVE, including these formulations, compared to anything else in this pathetic health care system. It is incredible to read this BS over and over again. Vitamins absolutely may not work, especially these Tinnitus remedies, trying to turn off Americans to their use based on their expense is complete bullshit and suggest an ulterior motive.
       
    21. Lilah

      Lilah Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown, Lupus
      I have been taking B-12 and D3 since I am borderline deficient, and fish oil, for about 2 months. I just started taking a multivitamin and this magnesium formula (Pure Encapsulations' Muscle Cramp/Tension Formula) for a few days. Also I take Plaquenil for lupus, and have been taking Trazadone 50 mg for about a week. I know I have to go off the Trazadone at some point soon, but getting at least some sleep is helping me. I have also noticed a difference after taking the magnesium where I get calm and the ringing goes down to a lower comfortable tone for a bit. I take magnesium pill at breakfast and one at dinner. I think I have noticed the most positive difference after taking Trazadone and magnesium.

      Initially after two days I thought that Trazadone caused a spike, but my doctor told me to give a few more days before I make a decision. Since then I don't think Trazadone has caused a spike, or maybe the magnesium lowered it down.
       
    22. Marko Nakovski
      Bored

      Marko Nakovski Member Benefactor

      Location:
      North Macedonia
      Tinnitus Since:
      27.04.2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      What I take - C 1000-1500 mg, D3 4000u, Zinc 15 mg, B6 40 mg, B12 1000mg, Ginkgo Biloba 120mg, Betaserc 24 mg, Ashawagandha 500 mg, Turmeric Curcumin 1000 mg, Magnesium 600 mg, 5-HTP, sometimes Creatine, sometimes NAC and a lot of healthy food.
       
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    23. GSC
      Volatile

      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Can someone tell me what is the best supplement to get? I keep reading magnesium from threads and from Contrast's post and I want to be thorough with this. So if anyone can possibly inform me, or link me to the one they swear by, I'll be willing to try it! :couchpotato:
       
    24. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      magnesium will not be a miracle, but in my own personal case it makes a slight difference.
       
    25. GSC
      Volatile

      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I'm aware, but whatever can make this ringing slight better, the opportunity I will cling to. Do you have a recommendation or a link by chance?
       
    26. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      Any magnesium you can buy at a local grocery store, usually they are chewable.

      I am not going to advocate any specific brand.
       
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    27. GSC
      Volatile

      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Thank you!
       
    28. Jr_time

      Jr_time Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I'm trying to find if taking vitamins help? Like NAC, magnesium, b12, turmeric, zinc and ginkgo. Can you mix with some of them without getting sick?
       
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    29. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I had been taking NAC, Magnesium bis glycinate, Vinpocetine, Ginkgo Gold, and Zinc. I have also been taking apple cider vinegar. It is impossible to know whether any of those supplements help, as one never knows how one would have been feeling if one were to not take those supplements.
       
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    30. Eric N

      Eric N Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Montreal QC
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2012, 03/2016, 05/2017, 05/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise + 3 major increases via (shouting / MRI/ flu+Tylenol)
      Supplements won't do anything. Just eat properly.
       

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