Tinnitus and ETD After Being Exposed to the Noise of a Drill

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    1. Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      74 days ago I worked with a puncher for a couple of hours.
      There was not any pain or noise in ears that day.

      Only in the next morning I woke up with a roar (ringing) in my ears and fullness feeling in right ear. A day after the noise exposure I haddexamethasone.

      I did 6 audiograms including up to 16,000 Hz. Everything is ok. There is a "blockage" at 6000 +10 dB...

      I hear very well, even better than before the injury. The usual sounds are louder than before (the sound of plugs, spoons, glasses and similar sounds create discomfort.

      Speech intelligibility in noisy places - no problem (I checked it several times).

      On the 30th day after the noise exposure eustachian tube dysfunction appeared (clutching in ears when swallowing and without). The doctors could not verify it because they do not know about the ETD test and how to do it.

      Classical tympanometry is normal.

      The first week I had loud ringing.

      Then it changed to cicadas in their ears (very loud).

      Now it's the sound of sand that falls on a plate (or brown noise) + in the left ear in full silence I can hear ringing (like a neighbor’s vacuum cleaner) and morse code...

      Now the volume of the noise level is audible in a quiet room and when wearing earplugs.

      Recently I felt that the tympanic membrane itself sometimes twitches in the left ear (a couple of times a day and only in one ear, perhaps because of the auditory tubes).

      Several times a day there is slight possibly phantom pain in the cochlea.

      Now I wear silicone earplugs. In the evening after work I listen quietly to music.

      1. How to treat eustachian tube dysfunction? Besides Mometasone and exercises, is there something else?
      2. Can eustachian tube dysfunction cause tinnitus?
      3. What to do with the tinnitus (a little tired of it), will it pass?
      4. Can hidden hearing loss be diagnosed somehow?
      5. Twitching of the tympanic membrane, what is it caused by? The auditory ossicles?
      6. Is it worth it to wear ear plugs?
       
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      My audiogram:

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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      most hearing studies are conducted on mice, but how do they interrogate mice for the presence of tinnitus and if the noise is subjective in the brain
      So how?
       
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    4. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

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      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      TTTS usually goes away on its own in about 12 months.
      Are you using headphones?
      Do you wear them around loud/moderate noises (or where there could be a potential to exposure to noise), or do you just wear them 24/7?
      Looks like your T is fading fast. If you are able to avoid secondary acoustic traumas, it ought to continue fading.

      Check out
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...eone-else-who-has-tinnitus.26850/#post-307822
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Thank for your consideration for my post.
      I'am not (thank you for your posts). listen in car and home speakers. can you tell about using mobile and landline phone is ok for ears?
      I need advise about it. I scare that people loud speech can make some problems. now I use them in loud places like shops... few days ago my mom dropped the glass on the table for 3 days it was pain in right ear (I was without ear protection).

      silicone earbuds is awesome

      also today's morning it come better. I dont know how explain it... but I feell my T better
       
    6. GSC
      Owned

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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      For sudden, unexpected noises at home, I keep my peltor's X5A on me, or by me all times. That way if a noise happens, like a dog barks too much, or a plane flies overhead and I can hear it coming, I just slip them on - and it's way quicker than carefully putting earplugs in, or panicking. It's second nature to me at this point. Also advice: I don't trust anyone, but myself when it comes to T. If I'm by someone and they're handling dishes, I put my muffs on, because I know they're careless. It has saved me a handful of times.

      EDIT: By on me, I mean in my hand, not over my ears. HAHA.

      Also, if you're hearing louder than before... then maybe you should schedule an audiogram 3 months from now, or four. Sounds like you might have a case of LOUDNESS H.
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      [QUOTE = "GSC, сообщение: 434470, участник: 35918"] Кроме того, возможно, вам следует запланировать аудиограмму через 3 месяца или четыре. Похоже, у вас может быть случай громкости H. [/ QUOTE]
      I made audigram
      after first month and second month

      what do you wear on work ?
       
    8. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Pardon? Do you mean, what do I wear for work? Ear plugs.
       
    9. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I've read a considerable number of horror stories of quiet music and headphones. I don't recall seeing too many stories about phones.

      I know that my most serious spike (that had lasted for over three months and that involved a change in pitch to make T more unbearable) happened as a result of me presssing an old landline phone (its volume stuck at Max) to my bad ear, and the person on the other end of the line raising her voice as she greeted me.

      It is my understanding that moderate/loud noises pumped directly into the ear canal are sometimes unsafe (see all of the many stories of people getting new tones or huge spike as a result of being kissed on the ear). I try to keep the phone's speaker about an inch away from the opening of my ear canal...
      This is a very encouraging sign! It should continue to improve and fade.
      You should do some trial and error. Try not wearing earplugs, and see whether you get a spike or whether it doesn't feel right.

       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      few minutes ago the fireball has flown and blown up near me (in my home).I worry about my T.
      before it happened I took magnesium and vitamin B.
      Hope all will be ok
       
    11. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Fireball? Take some nac too. Mag too.
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      ball lightning...sorry for my english...
       
    13. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      ETD can be a loose or even misdiagnoses, ear fullness from loud noise trauma is unknown consequence that doesn't even have a name. Maybe the Eustachian tube got damaged from noise trauma.
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      maybe.... first was fullness in ear
      ETD come after 30 days....
       
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Yesterday I heard one clatter of dishes - today I have pain and fullness in right ear :grumpy:
       
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    16. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      Have you had a history of ETD before?
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Never...
       
    18. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      Why would you think ETD is a total coincidence?

      It's more then likely this has something to do with a noise injury.
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      I think yes. I read about it on this forum.

      First it was the fullness which drove me crazy.
       
    20. PortalNaut

      PortalNaut Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      Late 2/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      I've had heightened sensitivity to things like the clatter of dishes, or the drop of a toilet lid.

      You have my sympathies, and I hope your sensitivity gets better. Mine did, and I'd say these things weren't a problem after 6 months.
       
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      I had a tympanometry test, all was ok (twice!).

      But I feel fullness (in one ear) and cracking in head when I swallow (on both sides).

      Do you know what might help?
       
    22. Contrast

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      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      nothing, we just suffer.
       
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      Yuri_ol
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      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Is speech discrimination in noisy places a mandatory element of hidden hearing loss?

      I just cannot fully establish my diagnosis (have I got hidden loss or not?). I have excellent results from the audiological tests and I perfectly understand speech in noisy places.


      i just read:

      Thus, experiments on mice showed that the connections between sensory cells and the auditory nerve are successfully restored under the action of neurotrophins, proteins from the family of growth factors that stimulate the development and activity of neurons.

      the auditory pathways always try to compensate for the impairment of the input cells and to correct the heterogeneity of the signals corresponding to the neighboring frequencies. Such a mechanism really allows to improve hearing, but, at the same time, it provokes and enhances neural activity, which generates tinnitus.

      the auditory pathways always try to compensate for the impairment of the input cells and to correct the heterogeneity of the signals corresponding to the neighboring frequencies. Such a mechanism really allows to improve hearing, but, at the same time, it provokes and enhances neural activity, which generates tinnitus.
       
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    24. AUTHOR
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      How can I check for hidden hear loss?
       
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Two days ago I went to a picnic with earplugs. Music was playing quite loudly nearby. Now two days later I have ear pain, I don’t know if it is connected... But what should I do?

      I take NAC and magnesium.
       
    26. GSC
      Owned

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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I've read people take the magnesium that you pour into water to help with ear pain, though I think it only helps a certain type, I am unsure.
       
    27. GregB56

      GregB56 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hi Yuri.... Can I ask how your symptoms are now? I have a lot of the same issues (fullness, ear flutter, T etc etc) after a sound trauma event back in December last year. For me seems that the symptoms, particularly the ear flutter, are getting worse not better. Cheers, Greg
       
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    28. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      What did the ENT's and doctors say?

      It's such a mystery why some people get better and others get worse.
       
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      Yuri_ol
      Curious

      Yuri_ol Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Thanks for your interest in my topic. Fullness comes and goes (a couple of days ago a door slammed loudly). Trembling is constant. Now (for about a month) a new symptom is ear pain, not much dull pain.

      I cannot say it has become quieter or louder, there have been quite a few spikes (they went away). But the ringing turned into noise. Feel free to ask me questions.
       
    30. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      Are you letting your ears rest so they might heal? Don't challenge the pain, never contest the pain.
       

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