Tinnitus Increases with Jaw Movement

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    1. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      I notice when i sort of push my lower jaw out, the T increases in volume. Does anyone else notice that? Does that help in diagnosing a cause? Obviously i need to ask a doctor but I would like to hear other's experience with this to see if it has helped you locate the source (and hopefully some relief from) the tinnitus.

      Thanks
       
    2. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
      Tinnitus Since:
      17/08/2013
      the tinnitus produced when moving the lower jaw out is not the same at the tinnitus in your brain, you can feel it to be more external than internal.
       
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    3. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Interesting, for me they are both the same, just with increasing volume. I'm just trying, like all of us, to see if i can isolate a cause.
       
    4. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      You suffer from what it's called "Somatic T", (just like me) totally different from T cause by ear. Look for somatic T on the Internet. It is caused by tense muscles in neck and face (especially sterno-cleido-mastoidian, masseter, pterygoid, ) and, what's worse, cross-talk in the brain stem caused by neuroplasticity (the signals that come from contracting muscles, instead of going where they are supposed to, they go to a very close point, where the sound signals go, and are interpreted as sound. That's why I joined this forum, to find more people with somatic (muscular) T and learn what they did about it. The treatment, from what I read consists in trying to relax the muscles (massages, physiotherapy) but what worries me is how that link in the brainstem could be broken.
      There are many, may pages on the Internet about this issue. Since I only registered today, I just received a message that I can't post links just yet , (to avoid spammers, it makes sense), I wanted to give you examples of sites that talk about somatic tinnitus.
       
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    5. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
      Tinnitus Since:
      17/08/2013
      i remember being a kid and pulling my jar out to hear that noise, i had no idea it could become permanent!
       
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    6. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014

      Thank you soooooo much Dana! This all started from EXTREME stress, physical mental etc... i thought i was going to have a seizure one night from the anxiety and panic and muscular...tightness.
       
    7. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      yep! i feel ya Valentin
       
    8. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      btw i used to train in Muay Thai, a wonderful export from your country
       
    9. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
      Tinnitus Since:
      17/08/2013
      i'm a belgian expat in thailand :)
       
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    10. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      So cool, I want to visit Thailand someday
       
    11. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      Yes, bodhisattva, that's exacly right: somatic T appears not only from "injury to the head or neck", but from STRESS, which makes certain muscles get tense. The only medicine that help me is Rivotril (Clonazepam), which, among other uses, is used as a muscle relaxer. Unfortunately the T reappears afters the drug wears off, and causes blurred vision and sleepiness, so you cand only take it before you go to sleep. I don't recommend you using clonazepam (although very effective when you're really desperate) on long term. As I saw, from my own sad experience, that blurred vision isn't a temporary side effect, my eyesight was affected permanently. Valium (Diazepam) also is considered a muscle relaxer and lowers T.
      Muscular (somatic) T goes away on its own, they say, only it take a very long time, as I can tell you from my experience. Some muscles that used to trigger T for me before don't do that anymore (opening my jaw, closing my left eye). At the beginning swallowing or pressing my teeth triggered T everytime, now only sometimes. Now only protruding my jaw forward and contracting my sterno-cleido-mastoidian does.
      It is acknowleged that somatic tinnitus is the loudest of them all!
      Let's hope for a cure or that it will go away on its own.
      That's why T gets lowder when you put your head on the pillow, because you bend your neck and you contract your mastoidian. Try to sleep on your back. Good luck!
       
    12. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Question for you, is yours constant otherwise? Mine is, it's made worse by jaw movements, but it's with me 24/7
      I've tried xanax, which helps me sleep, and basically not care as much, but it doesn't decrease the volume.

      Ah if i could only meditate again!
       
    13. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      Yes, I can say I have permanent T. The level of it varies, though. The contracting of those muscles or stress or tiredness only makes it worse, and adds new sounds of different pitches in different places, but T is quasipermanent. In 6 years I can count only a number of hours when i was T free, but that happened when I was on vacation and very relaxed, Yesterday I felt suicidal, that's how high it's got, I think because I had carried a heavy bag and after that I stayed in front of my laptop while sitting on one side on my bed (how stupid of me to stay with my neck and head for hours is such a position!)

      Yes, the problem of meditation... T took so much from my life, so much, but the most precious thing that if took from me was the ability to meditate, which was my preferred activity. It took if not my dearest, one of my dearest thing in life.
      T made me supid. I can't meditate, think deeply, drift into imagination, analyse..
      So "funny": last week, I bought about 15 (yes, 15) books about self healing with the power of our subcouncious to heal the body if you give it strong, sustained, positive suggestions, but that requires quiet times and meditation, to talk to yourself, to reach deep down your inner self. I bought those books for nothing, cause i can't meditate, can't talk to myself for a very long time.
      I became a cretin: I can hear what other people think and say , but I can't think deeply on my own, my brain is empounded by the noise. I went to university for nothing, I should have been a computer programmer, but for that you have to really concentrate, which I can't do anymore. I would give an arm and a leg to get rid of T.
      But let's stay positive: they say that if you want to heal YOU MUST BELIEVE IN YOUR HEALING!
       
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    14. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014

      Amen sister. I do find that i can sort of reach "the relaxation response" if i turn on a sound maker and let myself relax...i just have to tune out that voice that wants to say "do i hear it? is it still there?"
       
    15. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      What sound masker are you using, may i ask?
       
    16. bodhisattva

      bodhisattva Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Simply Noise, i use the "white noise" setting and try to keep the volume just above where it knocks out the T, but not too loud. I have it on my phone and also use it on my computer

      http://simplynoise.com/
       
    17. sandra72

      sandra72 Member

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      may 2014
      Sounds like mine. When i put my jaw down the sound is mutch lower but when i put my jaw forwarths its louder. When i turn my head the sounds is louder. What do you hear? I hear like if there is any gas on, like white noise. I have it for 7 months now and stil affaid that it can go louder in time. I also have days that its very low or gone. But every morning when i wake up the sound is there.
       
    18. Sjoerd

      Sjoerd Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09-2013
      Somatic is very common.
       
    19. David Tholfsen

      David Tholfsen Member

      Location:
      San Leandro, Ca
      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2009
      Somatic, sounds like me as well. Singing and changes in pressure really seem to do it for me. If I fly somewhere or have a head cold it really screams.
       
    20. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      Excuse me David, but what you say sounds more like dysfunction of the Eustachian tubes than somatic T. Only my opinion.
       
    21. Dan77

      Dan77 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      Dear All,

      Because of the things I faced and the things I saw in the world, I believe it's all due to microwaves hearing concept, may be that's why you wont have this when you are under water and it reduces while you are having a shower. I also believe that we should push our governements to stop this crime.

      Regards,
      Dan
       
    22. David Tholfsen

      David Tholfsen Member

      Location:
      San Leandro, Ca
      Tinnitus Since:
      6/2009
      Thanks Dana, I'll look into it.
       
    23. DebInAustralia

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Team Research

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      I have tinnitus that can be modulated by movements of my jaw etc...

      Have a look at the research conducted by Dr Susan Shore. She is specifically interested in this type of tinnitus..and is working on a device that might help with this.

      They are currently recruiting for human trials in Mitchigan, USA.

      If you are interested in the trial, I will forward the contact info of a researcher I have spoken to personally by phone about the study recently. Unfortunately, I did not meet their intitial criteria due to my hearing loss, but this might not apply to you.

      Susan Shore and her team believe that when the brain receives less auditory input (in my case an ear infection), the somatic nerves try to compensate. Unfortunately, this makes for a lot of noise! I am sorry I haven't been able to copy and paste her research, but you will easily find it in a google search.

      hope this helps

      deb
       
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    24. Worker

      Worker Member

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      lots going on at the time
      I also have somatic t and am interested as to why it started for everyone with somatic. Please post if you wish to post on the forum. It is devestating and life changing.
       
    25. Dana
      Chicken

      Dana Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not known, too many possible causes
      I will get back to you and tell you the story, I promise!
       
    26. Mad maggot
      Breezy

      Mad maggot Member

      Location:
      New zealand
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      It's possible you could have TMJ disorder. i have it also and have been wondering if it might be the cause of many of my neurological symptoms as I wore a special splint in my mouth for over twenty years for this. It can also cause tinnitus. I fell down two flights of stairs and landed on top of my head on a concrete floor when I was six years old and so my skeleton including my skull and jaw are rather a twisted mess. But it might be an idea for you to research TMJ disorder and see if this could be causing your tinnitus. Big it is then there's a possibility you could rid yourself of it completely. I going to see a specialist about it tomorrow as my splint was very old and no longer works. I'm hoping a new one might rid me of the tinnitus and oscillopsia I've had for the last seven years.
       
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    27. Rebelonthelake

      Rebelonthelake Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I've had tinnitus for only a couple of weeks, but I can see how it could drive you nuts! It absolutely gets louder if I jut my lower jaw straight out. Would be very interesting to know the physiology behind that! I wake up with it. Pretty much it's around all day, but of course distractions help. Tough to go to sleep, but I do have a muscle relaxant that helps me sleep (cyclobenzaprine 5mg). Think I'll try a heating pad on my neck tonight to see if that has any effect.
       
    28. PhysioNERD

      PhysioNERD Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMD
      OP, I had somatic tinnitus as well, I cured it with a tmj splint therapy stage 1 and then progress to stage 2
       
    29. Maggie-Mae
      Alienated

      Maggie-Mae Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Anti-depressants, loud music, ???
      When I was eating hard chewy lollies last night and today (I've got a sweet tooth!) I noticed chewing down would cause my T to screech a little louder. Over the past month I have also noticed jaw pain or pain around that sorta area. The Orthodontist I went to last month noted I had some TMJ dysfunction and didn't seem too surprised when I told him I suffered from Tinnitus and that he would talk to me more about it next session. Maybe they're linked? But the bottom line is, you're not the only one. Goodluck :3
       

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