Tinnitus Initially Caused by Chiropractic Treatment — I Always Liked My Quiet

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    1. Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      Hi, I'm Leila from Germany. I've been suffering from tinnitus since 2015 and have accumulated three different noises over the course of the years.

      The first one was a ringing sound I got after a physiotherapist decided to set my head without telling me what it was he was intending to do. Half a second later my right ear started to ring in a very high pitched frequency in my right ear that hasn't stopped since then. Surprisingly, I've gotten used to the high frequency and it is the one noise I can actually live with without masking.

      The second noise (also in my right ear) is of a very low frequency and I just kind of woke up with it about 3 years ago and it, too, never went away. This is when I got a noiser and it helped me a lot.

      The third noise, too, is of a very low frequency and I woke up with it about 4 days ago. It is in my left ear and a lot louder than the other two noises. It is slowly driving me crazy because it is so loud that I have to listen to some kind of noise 24/7 because else I'll end up banging my head against the wall in hope of relief.

      But having to listen to something 24/7 whether it's my tinnitus noises or the radio or some masking sound is exhausting me. I'm a person who has always liked her quiet and not getting a minute of silence a day is hell. I'm really upset at the moment because I don't know how to go on if the ringing stays at the level it is at the moment.

      Thank you for reading this and listening to my worries.
      Leila
       
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    2. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Hi @Leila,

      It might be a good idea to be seen at ENT for tests, just to make sure there is no underlying medical problem that could be making the tinnitus so intrusive. If nothing untoward is found, a referral to an Audiologist specialising in tinnitus management might be helpful. Counselling and some medications as well as sound therapy, including white noise generators can often help. White noise generators used correctly provide sound enrichment not masking. The idea is to set the white noise below the level of the tinnitus so it's not competing with it.

      Think about my suggestions. If you haven't been seen at ENT for a while it's a good idea to go, then see an Audiologist.

      Hope you are able to get some help soon.
      All the best

      Michael
       
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    3. annV
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      annV Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown - possibly hereditary
      @Leila, so sorry you have to deal with this. I always enjoyed being in quiet too.
       
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      Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      Hello Michael,

      Thank you very much for your kind words and your helpful advice. I've already made arrangements to see an ENT this coming week, so I've got to hold on until then.

      I think my "noiser" is what you call a white noise generator - sometimes we Germans like to give things English names that already have perfectly good names in English just to make life a little more confusing - it's like a hearing aid but instead of amplifying my hearing it plays a wave like sound that almost blocks out the noises in my right ear.

      As for counselling if the ringing remains I'll definitely have to look into finding a good counselor. And as for medication, the last time I talked to my ENT he told me there wasn't anything that was scientifically proven to help with tinnitus he'd prefer not to prescribe anything to me. If you have come across something that has helped you, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know, so that I can talk to him about it when I see him next week / or just try it for myself.

      Thank you very much again,
      Leila
       
    5. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      The noiser (I like the name), I have two and yes they look like hearing aids. Mine have a volume control so I can set them below the level of my tinnitus so it doesn't mask or block it out. The idea is not to block-out the tinnitus as this makes it more difficult for the brain to habituate to it. I don't need to wear my white noise generators all the time as I have variable tinnitus, that can be: silent, mild, moderate, severe or very severe.

      I disagree with your ENT as there are medications that can help a person to manage their tinnitus better, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a strong dosage. Tinnitus can be very debilitating and for a health professional to say, they'd rather not prescribe anything proves to me, this person knows nothing about tinnitus and the way it can affect a person's mental and emotional wellbeing.

      Your ENT doctor may be an excellent physician and knows all about the anatomy of the ear, nose and throat. He is able to treat underlying medical conditions within it and if they are causing the tinnitus treat them medically or surgically. However, this does not make him a tinnitus specialist which is an entirely different thing. The only way to understand tinnitus is to have the condition and this is the reason, I suggested after you are seen at ENT for tests, and you get the all clear - see an Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus as this is their area of expertise not an ENT. Most Audiologists that specialise is tinnitus also have the condition. They were either born with it or acquired it at some time in their life. They will be able to understand and empathise with what your going through, in a way that most ENT don't know. ENT doctors are physicians.

      Regarding medications, you can try herbal St John's Wort or prescription antidepressants at low dosage. They can help your mood, so you don't feel too down because of the severity of the tinnitus. There is a medication that is proven to help some people with severe tinnitus and that is Clonazepam/Rivotril. It is a benzodiazepine and can help reduce tinnitus. It should not be taken too regularly as it can be addictive and have unpleasant side effects. It helped me immensely when my ENT doctor prescribed it 2010. I was advised to only take it when the tinnitus was severe and still have it on prescription today. I take it once or twice a month for one to two days and then stop. I haven't had a problem with this medication. As I've said, it shouldn't be taken too regularly but it's known to help some people with tinnitus. My post: My Experience with Tinnitus, below, explains more.

      Please click on the links below and read my posts that you might find helpful.

      All the best and take care
      Michael

      Tinnitus and Mental Health | Tinnitus Talk Support Forum
      My Experience with Tinnitus | Tinnitus Talk Support Forum
       
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    6. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      Hi @Leila
      Can you say why you went to the physiotherapist?

      Have you had X rays of the cervical spine - anteroposterior, lateral and anteroposterior odontoid peg views. The odontoid peg view should show the lateral masses of the atlanto-axial articulation. After exam is noted, warm or cool compresses may help.

      CT myelography instead of MRI for assessment of ligamentous and disc injuries after getting X rays if trauma to the C spine is noted.
       
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      Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      Thank you very much, Michael and Greg. You gave me a lot of helpful information to look into and talk over with my ENT and I also think I'll have to find somebody who is more of an expert when it comes to tinnitus. When my first tinnitus noise established and I went looking for help I felt as if I was bringing some rare and unheard of ailment to my doctors' offices. They were all happy to do tests but that was as far as it went. I eventually got my white noise generator because I read about it and after that insisted that I at least get a chance to try it out. It made a big difference to me and maybe the solution will be getting a second one. I guess, I'll have to see.
       
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      Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      @annV - oh yes, I really, really, really miss my silence. I would love to read a book or just sit quietly and daydream without the buzzing of a sub woofer in my ears...
       
    9. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      You are welcome @Leila

      After you are seen at ENT for tests, a referral to an Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus management, I believe will be able to help you.

      If you have any more questions at any time please feel free to ask.

      Hope you'll be able to get some help soon.
      Take care.

      Michael
       
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    10. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @Leila I agree that you should find someone that is more of an expect and that would be for examination of neck. You mention -
      Now more so with second and third development of noise, I would consider an interventional radiologist to examine your neck. Tests that I mentioned in my post above. If you already had a CT or MRI and X rays, have them read by an interventional radiologist that specializes in vertebral, visceral and vascular compartments.

      Hopefully some easy therapy would help and tinnitus with what is obvious to be the problem - your neck.

      Wishing you the best.
       
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    11. Drachen
      Tired

      Drachen Member

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Currently unknown; awaiting evaluation
      Hallo, Leila! Welcome to the forums.

      I am truly sorry to hear about the origins of your symptom. I personally visit a chiropractor myself, and I actually look forward to the setting of the neck as that tends to clear up strain I've been having due to my poor posture. It is terrible to hear that you've had an adverse effect of that, one that has persisted for over five years now. The fact that you were able to get used to it is great news all the same, though having these other tones appear over time is just beyond cruel.

      While I am no expert in this subject at all, my knowledge of body-related forms of the symptom are even limited. It is great to see that @Greg Sacramento has reached out to you here in a knowledgeable form and that @Michael Leigh himself has extended both his support and advice. I certainly hope you are able to glean useful information from what you've read.

      Regarding your last paragraph, I am absolutely with you there. Before my onset, I was one who used earplugs at night before bed to ensure I am not distracted by ambient noise, chirping birds, or loud persons downstairs. I often kept my room silent as I was browsing the web. Silence was not foreign to me, rather it was something I cherished. Now, I haven't heard it during waking hours for six weeks. It's devastating.

      I had never considered health problems before that featured assaults on your senses. I am used to things like headaches. Stomachaches. Rashes. Stuffy noses. Things like that. I was not remotely aware there was an issue like persistent ringing in the ears before. My understanding of the ears was the worst you had to expect was noticeable hearing loss. It is incredible how little people know about this condition.

      I want to believe there will be a solution for everyone at some point. The problem is that point is not known, nor exactly is the path that must be taken to get there. This is ultimately a waiting game that everyone is sick of playing, but it's a game that must be played.

      Mach weiter so. You will make it. (y)
       
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      Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      It is what I've always felt, too, that the origin of my tinnitus is related to my neck. When I addressed this thought with my doctors and the person who tried setting my head (he was more of a physiotherapist than the chiropractor he advertised himself to be but that's something, too, I only found out after the deed had already been done) they were all quick to tell me that in no way were the move the man did the cause of my tinnitus and if I ever had considered that I might have gotten it anyway at this exact day and time. And when I insisted that I wasn't convinced it was strongly suggested that maybe the whole thing was all psychosomatic. I got very distrustful of doctors after that, which is also why, after 5 years, I haven't really the infrastructure I should probably have by now.
       
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      Leila
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      Leila Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      1 chiropractic treatment, 2 and 3 no cause
      Hello @Drachen and vielen lieben Dank für deine freundlichen Worte! I guess nobody who hasn't experienced it for themselves will be able to understand what it really means to not get a second of silence over the course of a longer stretch of time. People laugh at me, when I compare it to psychological warfare but that's what it feels to me most days.

      I'll try finding more specialised doctors as you and @Greg Sacramento and @Michael Leigh suggested and maybe even brave another chiropractor to see what they think.

      Thanks again for reaching out to me! And I really, really hope that there'll come the day where you will get your minute of silence - bis dahin, nicht unterkriegen lassen!!!
       
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