Vibration Sensations in Head — Anyone Else?

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    1. Tweaker
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      Tweaker Member Benefactor

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Does anyone else get sensations where it feels like you have an engine idling inside your head? Notice it in the evening and at night. I had this through the night. If I stay still it settles after a while. When I move my head it starts again. Tinnitus also a lot worse.

      Feeling shattered this morning. Teared up a bit. Still falling apart after 10 years of tinnitus and symptoms only seem to get worse. Would be interested if others have these head vibrations.

      My heart goes out to everyone this New Year. We all need some relief from this condition. Hopefully a treatment that can reduce the symptoms will turn up some time soon.
       
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    2. Backpacker

      Backpacker Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL
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      Tweaker
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      Tweaker Member Benefactor

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
    4. acute
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      acute Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, stress and meds.
      Yes, I have it, but normally I only hear it when I plug my ears.

      If I don't cover my ears, the other prominent tones covers up that engine idling.
       
    5. Backpacker

      Backpacker Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL
      @acute ,yours does not stop when you plug your ears? Or when you move your head left-right? When you have time can you read this about vibration? The article above. I guess there are different subtypes of vibration.
       
    6. Nick M

      Nick M Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection
      I have really bad episodes where I get this sensation that can last between a day and a couple of weeks. It typically begins during sleep so I wake up with it but it has happened to be a handful of times when I've been awake. It basically feels like someone took a cattle prod to my brain and shocked it. It physically jolts me and I get fleeting tinnitus at the same time. The difference is that the tinnitus doesn't taper down like normal fleeting tinnitus. It just stays there and that's when all the usual symptoms begin. These are typically a dull headache with head pressure, especially in the temples, vibration sensation like I have a massager held to my head. This strange movement sensation like things are moving, very similar to when you're really drunk. Slight dizziness, difficult sleeping, cognitive changes, brain fog, depression, anxiety.

      It begins suddenly and usually tapers off. The final day when I know it's about to go away, I have very brief periods during the day where I can actually feel this sensation suddenly stop for a few seconds and then back again, When it stops for the few seconds, I get instant relief and feel like my self again. That's when it fades and I feel normal again within 24 hours, all symptoms are gone, even tinnitus. I'm only left with this slight hum in my left ear but that's only if I put in ear plugs and go into a silent room. This "good" period can last between a day and a week until I either wake up with this horrible sensation or it shocks me while I'm awake.

      Neurologist believes it's migraine related which I believe so as well. But so far the medications I've tried has have provided temporary relief at best and actually worsening symptoms at worst. I'm at a complete loss as to what's going on in my head. My theory is that damaged nerves or neurons trigger this feedback loop in my brain and this is what causes the strange sensations and symptoms. It abnormal activity eventually burns itself out thus bringing the relief until the next episode. I believe this is what happens in epileptic patients but the episodes for them are much shorter.

      For me, the best way I can describe it to people is to relate it to something they've experienced which is also episodic such as muscle cramps. It's as if my brain cramps and I can't think or do anything until the release, similar to how when your leg muscle cramps up, you can't move until the muscle relaxes.
       
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    7. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      Many possibilities - Possible nerve roots or peripheral nerve pressuring the neuromuscular junction. This can associate to changes in blood pressure from anxiety or from bad neck posture/forward head bending that may include the sternocleidomastoids. Nerve roots could be occipital nerves trauma from an injury. Or problem may go beyond the peripheral nervous system.

      Neurologist needs to have more consideration.

      I placed all that you said into a medical platform and like with most concerns, much came to surface.
      Complete blood work is needed - B12 levels need to be tested to see if they are too high or low.
      Monitor blood pressure several times a day and then place results into mymedicalscore.
       
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    8. Healing2020

      Healing2020 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb/ 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzzo Withdrawal
      Hello, @Greg Sacramento, I am new to the forum and would like to send you a private message. How can I do that? thank you.
       
    9. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @Healing2020
      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/173068

      It does not appear that you are having onset of a disease or a problem with brain.
      Cause may be stress pain from injury and infection.
      The brain remembers eposides of pain if obtained in childhood.
      This often establishes how any of our nervous systems will react to trauma later in life.
      Beta blockers may help.
      Many here have sudden, but brief changes in blood pressure. Over 50% of the time, when I ask for blood pressure - it shows hypertension. There is a higher association of this with tinnitus and it can also fuel hyperacusis, vision problems, increase muscle spasms, nerve, vein and artery reactions and much that you describe.

      I will send you a PM. Click on your red Inbox at top of page.
       
    10. Nick M

      Nick M Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection
      Greg, your assessment is quite amazing to be honest. My BP without any medications is borderline hypertensive in the 140/90 range. I was on beta blockers for a 4 month period and the episodes were almost non-existent. My anxiety and mood changes were gone and my BP was down to the 130/80 range. However, recently the episodes of headache, loud tinnitus, hyperacusis and cognitive symptoms creeped back even on the beta blockers even though my BP was still lower and anxiety was controlled. I was only left dealing with the side-effects of the medication which for me was weight grain and fatigue so I decided to stop them. My doctor put me on calcium channel blockers for the BP letting me know that they are less effective for migraine and anxiety but will help with the BP. For the suspected migraine he prescribed Sumatriptan and told me to take them as needed. Sumatriptan made the symptoms and headache worse for me so I stopped it. So now I'm back to square one only taking only the calcium channel blockers for BP. I have a followup shortly to see what the course of action is.

      As far as my blood work goes, I had it done about a month ago and everything was normal except extremely low vitamin D and slightly high cholesterol and triglycerides. I'm taking vitamin D supplements to bring it back to normal.

      My work is hours behind a computer and I've had upper back and neck issues for years. Also when I'm in one of these episodes, I have somatic tinnitus on top of it all so if my extend my head to the extremes from side the side, I can notice an increase in tinnitus. However, even though my back and neck issues could make matters worse, I don't believe them to be the primary cause of these episodes. The reason being is that all these issues started for me when I had an inner ear viral infection in mid 2017. That's when I experienced ear fullness, slight loss of hearing and numbness on the side of the face for a few weeks. After that resolved, I was left with reactive tinnitus and sound frequency differences between my two ears. I had multiple complete hearing and inner-ear exams done and all came back normal even though I could slightly sense the damage to the ear. For about a year I only had tinnitus on and off distinctly in that one ear. After about a year is when I started getting these episodes where the tinnitus shifts to the center of my head the tinnitus is no longer distinctive to one ear along with all the other symptoms I described earlier. Again what's interesting is that ones these episodes fades, almost everything goes back to normal. My thinking and memory is crystal clear, no brain fog, no anxiety, no depression, no headache, no tinnitus and no vibration/drunk sensation.

      I'm not a doctor but based on my limited online research and scientific background, my theory is that the inner ear condition I had in 2017 damaged one of the nerve bundles such as a ninth cranial nerve which was the cause of my facial numbness. These damaged nerves are sending bad/mixed signals to the brain which is causing abnormal neural activity in the brain similar to a migraine. This abnormal brain activity is causing cross-talk into the auditory channels thus the head tinnitus, vibration sensations and other cognitive changes. Eventually this abnormal brain activity burns itself out and things go back to normal. I can actually *feel* and *hear* the storm in my head. I'm positive if I had a brain scan during these episodes, it will show my whole brain lit up. The brain activity takes up all my thinking ability. I feel like a vegetable during these episodes. The simplest thinking tasks seem like a mountain climb. All I want to do is sleep all day in bed or sit in my chair with my eyes closed and head back wondering when it will stop. It's very disabling... Anyway, sorry for the long post and appreciate your assessment.
       
    11. Healing2020

      Healing2020 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb/ 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzzo Withdrawal
      Hello @Greg Sacramento, I got your PM but unfortunately I still don't know how to answer back. Maybe I should start a new thread, but I would rather send a personal message. Does anyone know how to do that? I'm new and have never been in a forum like that before.

      All the best!
       
    12. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @Nick M Your post above shows thoughts of value that I often discuss. First, there's no doubt that an inner ear viral infection is behind your onset of tinnitus. With this there are about 35 possible processes where any may now be involved. 500 professional articles discuss biology per possible intervening. We will have to discuss this more, including cranial nerves V, VII, IX and X that send signals. Medical journal note this processing research is complete along with what I will further discuss. In other words, all the physicals that can cause or associate to tinnitus have already been found. No other biological functioning that can associate to tinnitus has been found in the last few years - it's all known.

      I was quite sure that you are capable of being borderline hypertensive. This is why I mention beta blockers and you just mentioned:

      Hypertension is most likely causing any of a possible 35 processes to react. Hypertension moments or a hypertension crisis - both medical terms - are a quick, sudden and BRIEF rising of blood pressure. So much to say about hypertension moments with other biology and also with tinnitus. A hypertension moment or crisis can cause organ and eye sight problems. Often veins, arteries and nerves or any physical existing physical weaknesses becomes involved, including those associated to nerves of the ears and arteries and vein of the neck that connect to other processes and then to the brain. Even peripheral artery disease of the legs and feet can cause the carotids to react, more so with hypertension as a trigger. Many older people have some increasing white matter, but this is key with tinnitus when one has hypertension.

      When tinnitus shifts to center of head, hypertension artery and vein flow is often part of the equation. Most of the time episodes will fade when young, but at times eye problems remain. Most of the time when under stress or excitement, it not realized that a brief hypertension moment is happening.

      Your neck is no doubt cause of somatic tinnitus and hypertension and any of 35 possible processes causing your other problems from ear trauma does not help somatic tinnitus. It's possible that infection has also placed more stress on your neck. The C1 and C - spine and occipital areas, neck muscle tightness, veins and artery pressure/narrowing can reflect to blood flow from other processes where hypertension can increase conditions/disease more rapid.

      As part of a possible 35 possible processes -unless you have block arteries of neck, looped, twisted or comprised veins, arteries, nerves, cranial nerve involvement, occipital and neck stress, then treatment should consist of ways to control hypertension. You have not mentioned pulsatile tinnitus - so stenosis is probably not a problem.
       

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