Why Hearing Aids Aren't Given Much Attention for Tinnitus Management?

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    1. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      Has anybody considered hearing aids path to get some relief ? We know that hearing aids can help only if we have have hearing loss in human hearing range upto maybe 6-7khz but I read that we now have high frequency loss hearing aids available in the market too? Why isn't there much buzz about high frequency loss hearing aids for tinnitus relief ? I have never seen much attention given to hearing aids route for tinnitus specially now when we have high frequency loss hearing aids available in the market. It should have been a hot topic like Autifony and retigabine for tinnitus management. Can it not be expected to amplify the higher frequencies and diminish tinnitus which would be cool and a life saver? Am I missing something here ? Where is the problem? Please share your thoughts and clear my confusion. Thanks for reading
       
    2. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      Hear hear (pun intended), I have been thinking about the same thing.
       
    3. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      Correct me if I'm wrong someone but to the best of my knowledge, hearing thresholds in the very high frequency range (8-20 khz) are almost never tested and such tests are not routinely available in a lot of places.

      I am not aware of any marketed amplification technology that goes beyond 8 khz.

      Hearing aids are already used in the management of tinnitus on people with mixed success. It seems the built-in noise features are the most useful.
       
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    4. Atlantis

      Atlantis Member

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      02/2014
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    5. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      I don't think that there are enough daily sounds in that range to actively mask tinnitus. Are there?
       
    6. dan
      Chatty

      dan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2011
    7. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      There's no point. The reason why hearing aids help mask some people's tinnitus is due to the fact they are hearing less and thus they can hear their tinnitus more thus amplifying their hearing allows them to hear the background noise more and masks it. If you can already hear those background noises you don't need an hearing aid.
       
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    8. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      ^ that's not how it works. Hearing aids can reduce / cure T for many with hearing loss but their T range is typically below 8Khz. The effect is similar to notched music therapy. That Siemens device is very interesting, thanks for sharing the link. It offers also some sort of a T therapy.
       
    9. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      I ofcourse meant to help manage T to perceive it less, not cure it. We have hearing aids in the market which can amplify even higher frequencies and should help with high pitch tinnitus too ( not sure about the limit ) . I wonder why we havent seen much about it yet on this board or anywhere
       
    10. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      You are right. There are aids that have maskers inbuilt that are specially designed for tinnitus.
       
    11. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Calgary
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      I already posted why, there are not enough daily sounds in that range to provide relief.
       
    12. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      Makes sense. But the point is to "fix" our ears in higher frequencies and not necessarily make them "hear" those frequencies. Tinnitus by definition is "ears unable to send high frequency information to the brain" , resulting in brain making noises if I am not mistaken. If we usually don't have high frequency sounds in our environment, then why do normal ears don't have tinnitus ? Or maybe tinnitus is produced as a result of hearing loss in any frequency in our ears and its not related to and independent of what frequencies we have around us in our environment. I hope I am not confusing you
       
    13. Martin69
      Artistic

      Martin69 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      (Health) Anxiety
      Exactly what @Telis said. If you have T at 15 kHz, there is no input from outside to mix with T. Maybe only crickets. T and hearing loss are only related, because T is usually where you have hearing loss. But that does not mean, everyone with hearing loss gets T. Otherwise sooner or later everyone would get T - which is not the case.

      T is a brain thing. Nerves in the brain start firing. Therefore, meds like Retigabin, Gabapentin, benzos can lower T. Because they calm down the brain.
       
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    14. Sailboardman
      Frustrated

      Sailboardman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/21/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Sensorineural hearing loss right ear.
      Have been using a Beltone "Tinnitus Breaker", with 4 programmable channels and masking. I have used this device for 8 months and can say, it helps with my hearing loss, which is high frequency. If I wear it outside let say and there are high pitched crickets singing, without the hearing aid, my damaged right ear, can't hear them at all. With it in and the volume jacked up, I hear them fairly clear. Remember, hearing aids amplify sound, so all sounds will become louder, not neccesarily clearer.

      This unit has 4 different and switchable channels. First is For general use, with white noise masking and omni-directional mikes. Second, is for bars and parties, etc. It has no masking, uses directional mikes. Third, is for general use and uses pink noise, with both omni and directional mikes. Fourth is, no masking and omni mikes, but increases the high frequency range, which is good for music or watching TV. The audiologist sets all these channels up and programs the masking levels at your particular T range. My T is chronic and severe, so we are pretty much maxed out on the masking DB levels. Mine is set at 65 DB's, which is high. Some days I can hear the masker over my T, but most days, my T is much louder than the masker. If you're an I-phone user, there's an app you can download, to change any of the settings on the fly. The Beltone unit is a wireless device.
      Price is around $3,800 USD.

      Also note, there are many other brands you can chose from and most dealers, will let you demo a unit for 30 days.

      Sailboardman
       
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    15. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      Awesome! This gives some hope to me
       

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