Will a Hearing Loss Cure Also Cure Visual Snow Syndrome?

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    1. Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Hello,

      I developed tinnitus after an incident involving a bad pair of headphones. I've had it for four months.

      I developed visual snow just last month. I'm having a really hard time dealing with it.

      I was wondering if there's any hope a hearing loss cure could fix visual snow? I believe tinnitus and visual snow are connected without a shadow of a doubt, and I believe fixing hearing will fix tinnitus. Right now I just need someone to talk to who might understand, visual snow is so much worse then just tinnitus.
       
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    2. ajc

      ajc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Absolutely no hope. Unrealistic and unfounded hope is not healthy for your recovery.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      I'm not really sure about this. I feel like when the brain receives restored hearing signals it'll also fix whatever's wrong with visual snow.

      Both are highly linked (65 percent of people with visual snow also have tinnitus). Why do you say there's no hope here?
       
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    4. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      Do you realize that you just basically said that having hope for recovery is bad for your recovery?
       
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    5. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      Of course there is a possibility that this could, as well as stop floaters. My floaters started after I got tinnitus and they fluctuate too. Some days they are bad, and other days I don't see a single one.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Yeah I'm not sure if those are normal floaters because normally floaters don't fluctuate so you might have a small symptom of visual snow. I also never had floaters until a month ago. Now oddly enough I see a small dot in certain lighting. It used to be multiple floaters but now it's just the dot :confused:
       
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    7. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      I also have very light VS if I look at the shadows in evergreen treens. But yes, I have fluctuating floaters.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Did you get visual snow or tinnitus first?
       
    9. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      Probably about the same time. My VS is so light it's hard to notice unless I look at the right thing.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Have you gotten used to it? I just got mild visual snow, I see it on everything and I'm kind of struggling with it.
       
    11. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      It is so light that it was never a problem. Like I said I really, weirdly, have only noticed it looking in the dark parts of evergreen trees. Nowhere else. Just checked, yep, looks like a light mist swirling around.

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    12. Auron
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      Auron Member

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      Tinnitus Since:
      Spring
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Shock
      Hmm... No visual snow, but I do see Bigfoot.
       
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    13. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
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    14. Flyingsheep
      Sheepish

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      Location:
      Cleveland, OH
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      So weird. I have a mild form of it which I feel like happens when you get floaters? Maybe it's a result of your visual cortex actively working to minimize the appearance of floaters (notice when one stops moving, it simply disappears). I do get swirlies if I look up at a bright blue sky. I don't really care, as long as it doesn't get worse. Floaters suck, but not nearly as much as tinnitus.
       
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    15. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      I think hearing loss just makes everything worse, it is just another problem on top of the others.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      What you have is called "Blue field entoptic phenomenon", floaters aren't the same thing as visual snow but everyone with visual snow has Blue field entoptic phenomenon.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Everyone watch this video:
      What is the connection between VSS and Migraine?


      "Tinnitus and VS are located in the same part of the brain"
      "Nearly 80% of people with visual snow have tinnitus"
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      I'm sorry you see it at all :(
      I'm starting to see it everywhere unfortunately, i think visual snow research will find where tinnitus is in the brain.
       
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    19. Flyingsheep
      Sheepish

      Flyingsheep Member

      Location:
      Cleveland, OH
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      So it does have a name. Did some reading and it appears to have nothing to do with visual snow, and everyone has it. It’s just part of our biology. So maybe I don’t have visual snow. If I’m in a dark place of course I see a bit of static if I try to pay attention to it, but honestly I’ve always thought that’s just our brains turning up the ISO (or gain) of the perceived image.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      If you see static with your eyes closed, are sensitive to light, have trouble seeing in the dark, easily get migraines, see afterimages or light trailing, see flashes of light with eyes closed and have Blue field entoptic phenomenon, then you have visual snow.
       
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    21. Flyingsheep
      Sheepish

      Flyingsheep Member

      Location:
      Cleveland, OH
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Nope, only the blue field entoptic phenomenon, which alone is not a result of visual snow. It's blue light passing through white blood cells in the capillaries that the retina is detecting. Normal biology.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Haha lucky you :)

      I'm not sure why everyone with visual snow has blue field entoptic phenomenon. This is a brain scratcher.
       
    23. Flyingsheep
      Sheepish

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      Location:
      Cleveland, OH
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Lol because everyone has the blue field entoptic phenomenon.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      To be fair I never saw blue field entoptic phenomenon until I got visual snow.
       
    25. Flyingsheep
      Sheepish

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      Location:
      Cleveland, OH
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Probably because you didn't notice it until you suddenly started having a visual disturbance you weren't used to, which caused you to be hyper aware. I noticed it on rare occasions before I had floaters, and now I notice it much more often when looking at a bright sky. The only thing that changed was my perception of it.

      An investigation of the source of the phenomenon. If you don't have this phenomenon then you aren't getting white blood cells in your capillaries, which would be a serious problem.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2703307

      If you don't see it then your brain filters it out amazingly well.
       
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      Defiant-Decay

      Defiant-Decay Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      Yes but I believe visual snow is the brain failing to filter out things in general.
       
    27. Sevv

      Sevv Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      12.04.2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      Not correct, I have VS, but no BFEP. No floaters, no white dots darting around when looking at the sky. And it has been this way for the past half year since I developed VS.
      If your tinnitus and VS aren't too bad, you should eventually get used to it. Took me about 8 months and I'm generally habituated. Life isn't perfect but a lot better than when I got these conditions. I feel ok waiting a couple years for a treatment...
       
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      Defiant-Decay

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      That's very interesting. Do you have any other symptoms other than just the static?
       
    29. Sevv

      Sevv Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      12.04.2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      My symptoms:
      - mild tinnitus that generally can always be heard (low volume, very high pitch)
      - no apparent hearing loss (I assume some hearing loss 14k< ).
      - translucent visual snow (like a drizzle)
      - slight trailing
      - slight negative afterimages
      - starbursts, bigger halos around lights and somewhat worse contrast sight (though no problems at night).
       
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      Defiant-Decay

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      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise/ music in headphones
      You basically have my symptoms, how did you get yours?
      And did it get any worse?

      I'm only a month in. Thank you for responding. These symptoms have been driving me up the wall, I've only recently learned how to rest/keep calm.
       
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