ADEL Bubble — Stephen Ambrose (Inventor of In-Ear Monitors). This Just Blew My Mind.

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    1. jeanoroid
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      jeanoroid Member

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      Pardon if any of this has been posted before. This video caught me off guard (gotta watch all of it).
      Wiping a tear away and I'm not even subject to significant hearing loss.
      Let's hope Stephen can help with some Tinnitus/Hyperacusis tech..

      Brian Johnson from AC/DC - We have the...
       
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    2. jdjd09

      jdjd09 Member

      Can I buy this? How can one buy this? Please let me have this. Then fix my hearing with gene therapy. I would be so happy.
       
    3. monacco

      monacco Member

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      Mp3 again :cry:
       
    4. jeanoroid
      Yeehaw

      jeanoroid Member

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      These appear to simply be in-ear musician monitors..
      High end ones mind you - but traditional..

      Ambrose' tech features some sort of artificial eardrum that reactivates hearing in these people. - and the inflatable plugs are neat as well..
       
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    5. jeanoroid
      Yeehaw

      jeanoroid Member

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      Contact Vanderbilt Hearing in Nashville.
      They can probably steer you in the right direction.
       
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    6. Ricardo AM
      No Mood

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      Excellent!
      There is a extended testimony video from the same above

      Stephen Ambrose Makes Deaf Ear Hear Music For...


      I found this a serious alternative (today) for people that have hearing loss (considering the emotional testimony)..... This person have T also and it seems this company is aware of this issue........


      Hope they can bring some happiness for some!
      ..........but i still hope for natural (gene therapy) alternatives in a few years!!!!!
       
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    7. Ricardo AM
      No Mood

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      There is another "BEAUTIFUL" testimony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Sesha with severe hearing loss Cries when...



      (how i wish to be part of this trial.....)
      ;)
       
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    8. Zechariah

      Zechariah Member Benefactor

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      @jeanoroid These people keep talking about "nerve damage". Which means that there is no signal going from hair cells to the brain even tho the hair cells may be intact. I don't see how additional ear drum will make this better.

      Additionally you can hear the music coming from the ear buds when that man tries them after the volume is incresed (first he says he can't hear them). This basically means that the volume is ramped up REALLY HIGH so that the last of the few working hair cells/nerve pathways are blown up for sure. I'd say that this would be the case with the woman as well if the 70-80dB background noise didn't cover the sound.

      Alltho those ear buds may good for some "normal" purposes but that's another thing.
       
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    9. RB2014
      Confused

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      Not really sure what is special about these. They are as mentioned above in ear musicians monitors. They probably do a good job of blocking out all the ambient noise and then just providing the volume that one needs. Agreed with poster above, they are going to just amplify sound in the 70 or 80 or 90 db range, whatever the person needs to be able to hear the sounds. My hearing aides work the same way. I can channel bluetooth directly into my ear and it sounds incredible. These just block ambient noise while my hearing aide lets it through. I don't think amplifying 70/80 db will be bad if that is how much hearing he has lost. You have to stimulate the hair cells or they die and the nerve dies along with them. He should really just get hearing aides, but yeah don't take those to a concert. These will help him to keep performing though if that is what he wants, without any additional damage to his hearing.
       
    10. Zechariah

      Zechariah Member Benefactor

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      Hi, you don't need 80dB volumes to stimulate left over hair cells. They are stimulated as much as they would be stimulated when you have normal hearing. The only difference is that brains do not register the signal coming from too few hair cells and that's why you can't hear the sound.

      And if those guys have nerve damage - "all" of their hair cells may be intact.
       
    11. Mario martz
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      Thats beautiful, to see the peoples reaction!!!
      but i dont get it! using this earbuds
      you protect your hearing? and listen perfectly at the same time?
       
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    12. swc5150

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      As a professional musician, I use in-ear monitors, which isolate the external loudness of the instruments and PA to some extent. I can then hear my vocals perfectly at low volume.
       
    13. Zechariah

      Zechariah Member Benefactor

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      I don't know how high sound volume goes on stage but if I'd had to guess it isn't too much lower than in the audience which would mean sound levels exceeding 100-110dB which would mean that with best possible ear plugs background noise would reach 70-80dB. To compete with that your in-ear monitors would have to be set on that volume level if not above it to be able to hear your own vocals "perfectly". I wouldn't describe sound levels at 70dB and above as "low volume".

      And considering your picture I assume that you are not performing nice and quiet background Jazz music at restaurants ;)
       
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    14. swc5150

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      No we play arenas with 150,000 watts of flying PA:) The stage volume difference alone from the audience is extreme. There is literally a wall of sound between the front-of house speakers and us on stage. You wouldn't believe the difference unless you experienced it. Stage volume is roughly 60-70db, with the isolation in-ears dropping the volume even lower. It's a remarkable change since the days of stage wedges for monitors.
       
    15. Zechariah

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      Ok, in that case, thanks for the info! :)

      I wonder why Brian Johnsons hearing is getting so bad then... is he running too much in front of speakers? :p
       
    16. swc5150

      swc5150 Member

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      Brian played too many years in days before in-ears. I'm amazed more haven't suffered his fate.
       
    17. Kenoir

      Kenoir Member

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      May be you wanted to soften your prejudice with a little smiley face, but the fact is you know a little about how things work in others world.

      The reason a performing musician especially the rock genre is having hearing problem is because most of the time they were constantly under high volume environment from the practice and rehearsals to the shows.

      They have to hear them self from the stage fold back monitor speaker high enough to fight against the other in order to perform the music as a band

      It doesn't need to walk in front of the speaker for audience in order to suffer from the lost
       
    18. Zechariah

      Zechariah Member Benefactor

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      Yeah, well, I always thought that musicians were the people who know how to protect their hearing at present day. I guess I was wrong.

      And the smiley was there because I really wanted to know what's the deal with Brian and why he shouldn't perform anymore. You suggest that he shouldn't perform because he is going to blow out his hearing in rehearsals?

      EDIT: And btw, don't let your ego get into your way.
       
    19. yonkapin

      yonkapin Member Benefactor

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      Was going to post about this the other day so lucky I saw this thread - anyone look further into this ADEL technology?

      Wouldn't mind trying their ear plugs with the same technology as these in-ear monitors. I've been through their store and they have custom fit musician ear plugs with only -18db protection, however they claim that these are superior to other ear plugs because of the ADEL module that acts like a second ear drum?

      I wonder how much this ADEL thing protects from occlusion and wonder if this might protect from bass frequencies better than other custom plugs.

      I might need to email them and ask. They seem to have some very unique production and that little bubble thing that helps people hear better is pretty amazing to be honest.
       
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    20. SoulStation
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      Could you keep me posted if you hear anything about those plugs?
       
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