Angry, Can't Believe It — What Kind of Tinnitus Is It That You Don't Even Know You Have It?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Neenie, Feb 19, 2014.

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    1. Neenie
      Depressed

      Neenie Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      So just quicky, coz I deliberately set my alarm for 4am to study, but anyway, we were talking about unilateral tinnitus in class yesterday so after I went up to the lecturer and said "look, I've got unilateral tinnitus and blah, blah...." and she says back "Oh you dont have a problem then, I also have unilateral tinnitus but i didnt even know I had it until I started audiology". WTF!? What kind of tinnitus is this, that you dont even know you have it? I'm pretty sure that means you dont actually have it, if you cant hear it, ever, then clearly you dont have it, and she just looked at me like it was no big deal and then i nearly punched her in the face with anger! haha
       
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    2. Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      94% of healthy people with normal hearing and no history of tinnitus will hear their own tinnitus, tinnitus that they never knew they had, when placed in a sound-isolated chamber and asked to listen for any sounds they can detect. Asked to describe the sounds they hear under such circumstances, they describe the same types of sounds that people with severe intrusive tinnitus describe - buzz, hum, ring, crickets, teakettle, roar, etc. (Heller & Bergman, 1953)

      Incidentally, therein lies one of the problems researchers face when trying to come up with a cure for tinnitus. How do you cure something that is present (admittedly to a small degree) in 94% of the healthy population??!! Do you cure only a certain loudness? And wouldn't that cutoff be sort of a moving target?

      Stephen Nagler
       
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    3. seal

      seal Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      there are people who have had T all there life or since they can remember and until one point didn't know that Tinnitus existed or that it is considered a symptom/diesease if you have ringing in the ears. So many of them just thought it was normal ( especially if they can only hear it in a quit room) and that everybody had that. Of course those aren't really bothered by their Tinnitus or maybe only start to be bothered once they realize that is an abnormality. So probably that's also the case for your lecturer.
       
    4. Neenie
      Depressed

      Neenie Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      these people must have rediculously quiet tinnitus then, if they can only hear it in a quiet room. I hear mine over everything except the shower, and that EVEN if I'm actively trying to not focus on it by thinking about other things
       
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    5. Karen
      Talkative

      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      I've had tinnitus for many years, and it wasn't bothersome --- UNTIL I took an ototoxic drug. I think that if tinnitus is mild and slowly progresses, you don't notice it. But, for those of us who have had a specific noise trauma or other event that we can point to, it is probably a lot more severe and anxiety-producing. When I compare mine now to what it was before, there is a world of difference!
       
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    6. Bobo

      Bobo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2013
      Karen-

      Has your T reduced over the months/years since the change or stayed the same?

      Greg
       
    7. Piper the great
      Amused

      Piper the great Member

      Location:
      Grand Prairie, Texas
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      I think your emotional response to it is the key, hate it and it will totally drive you nuts, mine is in my left ear and is never silent... have to ask everyone often to repeat them selves.... I have to turn on the closed captions to read TV, since I can't hear half the sounds, or more to the fact of understanding the sounds..... but when you give into the T, and truly believe there is Life after the T, a good life, you will not get better. Its all perception.....
       
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    8. Mark McDill
      Curious

      Mark McDill Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Papillion, NE
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Likely stress, anxiety, an antibiotic and nsaids

      Neenie
      I hear mine over everything too! It's a way different situation than your instructor.

      BTW: what's unilateral T?

      Mark
       
    9. Kerry H
      Balanced

      Kerry H Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chicago, IL
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      I don't know how relevant this is, but when I first noticed my T, my initial thought was that I felt like I had it forever and that I had just tuned into it.
       
    10. Zimichael

      Zimichael Member Benefactor

      Location:
      N. California
      Tinnitus Since:
      (1956) > 1980 > 2006 > 2012 > (2015)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ac. Trauma & Ac.Trauma + Meds.
      Volume....Volume....Volume.

      If there's no volume there's not much to light matches about.

      If it's a bloody 747 taking off in your head, then there are legitimate thoughts for a self directed SAM missile. However, it sounds like your instructor should be the target...though do stand out of the way Neenie as they are "heat seeking" and an 'anger flare' may attract it...Ahhh, well, then I guess you wouldn't have a tinnitus problem any more. But remember we want you around to figure out the cure! So just go low tech and punch.
       
    11. I remember hearing T as a kid, when hiding in a closet playing hide and seek...thought it was normal and everyone heard ringing...some nights I even found it soothing to go to sleep too...like I would tune into the sound and it would put me to sleep...weird huh?! LOL... I've tuned in and out over the years, but this year a new hum set in and figured it was stemming from my sore neck (tmj) it comes and goes..then the worst was the beeps with H...that's the new tone...and some days it reacts to external sounds...I hate H more than anything though..and the bloody ear spasms and pain!!!
       
    12. carol kane
      Wishful

      carol kane Member

      Location:
      Lincolnshire united kingdom
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/13
      T in one ear ... bilateral is T in both ears.
       
    13. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
      Tinnitus Since:
      17/08/2013
      they hear the sound of their organs but once they are out, they hear nothing like all of us before.
       
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    14. Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      I respectfully disagree.

      The sounds of their organs are "somatosounds" - not really tinnitus.

      What they are hearing in a sound-isolated chamber isn't the sound of their organs. What they are hearing is the cortical expression of all of the spontaneous activity in their auditory pathways. They are hearing tinnitus.

      Stephen Nagler
       
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    15. silenceISgolden
      Breezy

      silenceISgolden Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1995 or so
      this is also a good way to think about hearing loss induced T, that your hearing loss in a particular range is like a sound-isolation chamber in your head. The mind overreacts when stimulus is removed, to the point of creating hallucinations and phantom sounds.

      What I think would be interesting it to know what sound T the non-T people heard in the sound chamber...

      Most hearing loss T is shaped by the hearing loss range.

      so what T sound does a person hear when all the sounds are removed?
       
    16. Karen
      Talkative

      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      @Bobo,

      Yes, my tinnitus has improved since then. It is still there, but somewhat softer than it was when I first took the ototoxic drug.
       
    17. Valentin

      Valentin Member

      Location:
      Thailand
      Tinnitus Since:
      17/08/2013

      I spent time in musician sound proof rooms reading books waiting for my friends to show up and never heard the sound of my audio cortex....

      I must say i have a noisy heart, i can feel every pulse at any moment so maybe that covered the half decibel noise that my ears could produce at that time.
       
    18. Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      According to the study they heard the exact same variety of sounds people with severe intrusive tinnitus hear - buzz, ring, crickets, roar. teakettle, etc.

      Stephen Nagler
       
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    19. Dr. Nagler

      Dr. Nagler Member

      Location:
      Atlanta, Georgia USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1994
      ... because you were not purposely listening for a sound. These folks thought they were undergoing auditory testing and were trying to hear the sound they believed the audiologist was introducing to the room.

      The 1953 Heller & Bergman study is a true classic in the tinnitus literature.

      Stephen Nagler
       
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    20. Mark McDill
      Curious

      Mark McDill Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Papillion, NE
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Likely stress, anxiety, an antibiotic and nsaids
      Kerry
      I know what you mean (kinda weird); I have T in one ear (left) but sometimes my right ear will do a little ring and then fade out. When I think about it, I recall it used to do that when I was a kid (I just never really paid attention). Some people have said that everyone has T (to some degree); they just don't know it.

      Mark
       
    21. Relic Hunter
      Cynical

      Relic Hunter Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      Hell, its all about volume...If I had to go into a sound proof booth to hear my T. I would consider myself one lucky fellow.
       
    22. George Brady
      Crappy

      George Brady Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1985
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      bad meds
      I hear that only place I can't hear my T is in the shower!
       

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