Can Noise-Induced Hearing Loss Cause Pulsatile Tinnitus?

[Damien Cavanagh]

Hi Damian,
Mine is improving. I notice it seems to come back when I am stressed, definitely linked I think. How's your mood?
Paul

Hi Paul... stress level has been very high for months, but due to changing circumstances should come down soon.
The footstep hiss is always there, but when I'm less stressed I don't really care about it. Currently the thing that's getting me down is the pulsating somatic T (not PT apparently...) Hopefully it will all start to improve with reduced stress..

 

[Greg Sacramento]

From link. In conclusion, it has been reported that the underlying pathology of pulsatile tinnitus can be detected in more than 70% of patients with objective tinnitus.

I'm starting to see 70% or more in so many newer medical journal discussions as well. I have saved many professional journal articles that detail all forms of PT tinnitus including hums, ear humming and thumping and most now associate the jugular and vertebral arteries as cause.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Mana...us+with+normal+otoscopic+findings-a0433532192

Another increasing source is tinnitus or increased tinnitus from a dental experience where it's not just about the noise of the drill, but movement of the neck with effects on the jugular and vertebral arteries.

There's increasing articles that associate GERD, IBS, thyroid, heart, hyperextension of neck, posture, the neck, intercranial hypertension, jugular vein, vertebral artery, other arteries, atlantoaxial joints, toxins and the jaw which any of these problems can associate together and to other tinnitus cause conditions.

Also more newer medical research journal articles say that toxins are a major associated reason why one develops tinnitus.

 

[vttbx]

The cause of PT may depend if you are young or old.
PT is noticed in 4% of those with tinnitus, but if can be as high as 10% where more than half think it's non PT.

For the young it's often arteriovenous malformation relating to sinus problems.

For the old it's often arteriosclerosis. Buildup of plaque or cholesterol - hardening of the arteries. Included may be a injured leg(s) where veins/arteries have low blood pressure. If the leg is involved then the thigh will get sore. Leg(s) or feet will swell with lost of hair on top of feet. Feet will become red, but will turn white then being raised above heart level.
Exercise - walking and moving around as well as periods of raising the leg above heart level is needed.

Carotid arteries PT involvement will cause a constant headache and facial numbness. There's also 300 other possibilities that will cause a headache or facial numbness when having tinnitus.
Changes to the cerebral somatic regions that can include the jugular vein.

Blood work check - anemia, diabetes, sugar, fat, protein, infection, thyroid, vitamins, iron, and cholesterol.

Recently I posted a chart of which radiological tests are needed per possible condition(s).

I know this post is two years old but could you send me a link to the chart of radiological tests you posted? Thanks.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@vttbx I had eye surgery yesterday, so I can't spend much time with computer use, but here is another link.
https://radiopaedia.org/articles/pulsatile-tinnitus

For others that have send me questions by way of postings, PMs or email, I'm so sorry.

 

[tiniturtle]

The short answer is no, noise induced hearing loss cannot cause pulsatile tinnitus. If you have PT, it means you are hearing fine, and you are hearing turbulent blood flow for some reason. PT and tinnitus are not related in any way.

http://neuroangio.org/diagnosis-and-treatment-of-pulsatile-tinnitus/

 

[DaveyJones]

From my personal experience, PT can absolutely be caused by acoustic trauma. It's how mine started. I think for PT to be related to acoustic trauma, it has to be caused by a very low frequency noise. For me, I was right on top of a bass speaker. I've seen an article about mice developing arterial constriction in the ear after exposure to sound, but I can't find the link right now

 

[Juan]

From my personal experience, PT can absolutely be caused by acoustic trauma. It's how mine started. I think for PT to be related to acoustic trauma, it has to be caused by a very low frequency noise. For me, I was right on top of a bass speaker. I've seen an article about mice developing arterial constriction in the ear after exposure to sound, but I can't find the link right now

I also think PT can be a result of noise trauma. I have it on and off. Fortunately, it is rare in my case, but it happens sometimes.

 

[tiniturtle]

Noise induced hearing loss cannot cause pulsatile tinnitus. It you have PT, your hearing is normal and you're hearing the blood flow in your head.

 

[Gabriel5050]

Noise induced hearing loss cannot cause pulsatile tinnitus. It you have PT, your hearing is normal and you're hearing the blood flow in your head.

What are you basing your statement on?

 

[Mister Muso]

Pulsatile tinnitus does not share pathologies with actual tinnitus however I do think it can be induced by damaging the ear with noise simply because so many people on this forum claim to have it after acoustic trauma

This is the type of open-minded curiosity, and willingness to consider new correlations, which I believe will help find effective treatments for our various conditions.

Many of us have been told be ENT consultants that our tinnitus cannot be noise induced because we have TMJ, or an ETD, or something else. In reality it may well be that one form of tinnitus does increase your likelihood of developing another, or that there may be multiple causes for the symptoms we are experiencing.

Let's continue to support one another by refusing to put each other into the boxes that some members of the medical profession would put us into, and by listening to each other's stories.

 

[tiniturtle]

What are you basing your statement on?

Science and my own experience. I've consulted with many surgeons and have had 4 neurosurgeries to date. My PT was caused by an underlying cerebrovascular issue, when that was remedied, the PT was cured.

If You Have Pulsatile Tinnitus, Here's the First Thing You Need to Do to Get Answers and a Diagnosis

Also, written by outstanding neuro interventional radiologists:

http://neuroangio.org/diagnosis-and-treatment-of-pulsatile-tinnitus/

 

[gameover]

Pulsatile tinnitus is a vascular condition unrelated to actual tinnitus.

It is for me. I never had pulsatile tinnitus (or any tinnitus/hearing issues) until my noise trauma, yet I have been slowly developing pulsatile tinnitus. I don't think it is a coincidence.