DIY Low-Level Laser Therapy for Tinnitus on a Budget — LLLT Under 100,-

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by Cityjohn, May 14, 2016.

    1. RUM

      RUM Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise (motorcycle)
      Ok, thank you.
       
    2. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      @Bobby B - what is the logic behind only doing LLLT twice a week?

      It seems most the other clinicians do longer, more frequent sessions.
       
    3. SilverSpiral
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      SilverSpiral Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ACOUSTIC TRAUMA
      Answer his question please @Bobby B
      BTW IM ORDERING THE FLASHLIGHT!!! GET READY FOR SOME HEALING LIGHT EARS.
       
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    4. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      I will order it too.
      In January I'll begin 10 différents supplements + Lux Spa Laser and the flashlight see if that combo helps...
       
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    5. SilverSpiral
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      SilverSpiral Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ACOUSTIC TRAUMA
      https://www.amazon.com/Zoomable-Tactical-Flashlight-Infrared-Radiation/dp/B01IAUEWFA/

      Can you guys look at that? It looks like the same thing right, just doesnt have the brand name stamped on it, but notice it has an option between buying an 850nm version or a 940nm version? What does this mean in treatment terms? Which one should I get? Would getting and using both be added benefit? Or should I just get the one Bobby posts on the american site?

      Thanks
       
    6. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      I checked the reviews on Amazon for the flashlight Bobby suggests and apparently it does not have the advertised 5W. But maybe it's still enough.
       
    7. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      Just found out that TV remotes uses IR light, maybe a new therapy haha
       

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    8. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      The reviews say 1.5W - which is still MUCH higher than any of the other home devices. This is of course if you use a AA battery.
       
    9. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      The home device of Wilden is 80mw
      It costs like USD 2500

      That lamp is 1.5w which is still 1500mw - about 20 times the power of the Wilden top
      Of the line home device

      I also ordered the 10w lamp it's only 50 dollars even though the real power may be less it's still far more than any home laser home device and more than sufficient for our purposes
       
    10. BBApple

      BBApple Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus? Noise?
      I'll be trying the lucky laser and flashlight. Both on the way. Might as well give this light therapy the best shot of working (short of going to Spain or Norway).
       
    11. WildMan

      WildMan Member

      Location:
      Murica!
      Tinnitus Since:
      Beginning of 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I got the Ilauke flashlight in the mail today. You can adjust the size of the lens by moving the front of the flash light in or out.

      What I will find awkward is, if I am to try and insure I do not over heat my skin by turning the light off and on for 10 min each ear, it's going to be somewhat difficult lol.
       
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    12. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      I'm sure we can work out a simple pulse /on-off circuit between the power supply so that we get this working
      Can you take a few photos and let us know how it feels on the skin after some time ?
       
    13. RUM

      RUM Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise (motorcycle)
      My new LLLT device, 200mW LED at 620 nm.
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    14. Coleoptere
      Alone

      Coleoptere Member

      Location:
      The Hague
      Tinnitus Since:
      2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bell's Palsy, hearing loss
      And where did you get those Led's?
       
    15. RUM

      RUM Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise (motorcycle)
    16. Coleoptere
      Alone

      Coleoptere Member

      Location:
      The Hague
      Tinnitus Since:
      2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bell's Palsy, hearing loss
      Yes, you are right, they are available on multiple sites. Please make sure that they can in no way harm your ears by accidental bumping.
       
    17. RUM

      RUM Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise (motorcycle)
      Yes, do you use the same led?
       
    18. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      LED are pretty harmless at these power level
      Nice setup !
       
    19. Coleoptere
      Alone

      Coleoptere Member

      Location:
      The Hague
      Tinnitus Since:
      2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bell's Palsy, hearing loss
      Yours is twice is powerful :).
       
    20. Coleoptere
      Alone

      Coleoptere Member

      Location:
      The Hague
      Tinnitus Since:
      2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bell's Palsy, hearing loss
    21. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      10w is a lot but the key is to do it on an off/ pulsating so you don't build up too much heat especially on the longer wavelengths
       
    22. Coleoptere
      Alone

      Coleoptere Member

      Location:
      The Hague
      Tinnitus Since:
      2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bell's Palsy, hearing loss
      Thank you. In that case I must take the 5 watt direct current. Right? Because how can I make it pulsating? And at what frequence should it pulsate?
       
    23. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      while I am no LLLT expert - you can emulate a pulse of one second off / one second on, by moving the light up and down, left and right, on your ear. every other second it will be over your ear, or on a part surrounding your ear which in theory, may help with local muscle tissue inflammation, which can cause T.
       
    24. BBApple

      BBApple Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus? Noise?
      Got my lucky laser. Started tonight with 20 mins @ 808nm/200mw and 20.mins @ 650nm/60mw. Started at fairly low power and hope to ramp it up over time. Not sure if I'm aiming the probes correctly though. Other than a warm and fuzzy feeling, not much to speak of so far. I kept waiting for that spike that some have reported but none so far.
       
    25. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      I'd say that to know if your aiming correctly, use the 808 at full power and I think you should experience vertigo. I'm not sure though
       
    26. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      Make sure to move it around to cover all areas
      Also use the pulse function
       
    27. BBApple

      BBApple Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus? Noise?
      I did try to move the probe a bit every few minutes but I thought I'd try continuous first just to make sure it's "working" and then use pulse at higher power.
       
    28. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      Also - resist the urge to do it too often for too long
      Twice a week at high power 15 min 500mw pulsed is a good ballpark
       
    29. BBApple

      BBApple Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus? Noise?
      So is 808 more important than 650?
       
    30. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      Do you have H or is it just for your T?
       
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