Does Hearing Loss Cause Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Bleep, Mar 30, 2018.

    1. Bleep

      Bleep Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      22/03/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Perhaps stress
      I've read many times that hearing loss can be a cause of tinnitus yet here it says the opposite. If it's true that hearing loss causes tinnitus in the first place I'd like to read a reliable source of it.
       
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    2. Tinniger

      Tinniger Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uncertain, now very somatic, started with noise?
      Hearing loss and hidden hearing loss is one of the many concepts of tinnitus development. It can apply to some patients - and not to many others.
      Nobody knows anything, everyone's in the dark...
       
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    3. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      Not necessarily, my dad has mild hearing loss on R ear and he has no Tinnitus. Older people loose hearing and dont get tinnitus. I assume the reason why we have T is because we damaged the nerves.
       
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    4. hans799
      Mellow

      hans799 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Hungary
      Tinnitus Since:
      Born with it
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Worsened Dec 2016 by headphones
      There definitely seems to be a correlation between hearing loss and T. But there is no consensus about cause and effect.

      Maybe the only thing that links hearing loss and tinnitus is that both can be caused by loud noise. After exposed to (chronic or impulse) loud noise, some people develop T, some HL, some both T and HL.

      But again, no consensus on this either in the scientific community or on this forum.

      Your best bet is to avoid loud noise. :)
       
    5. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      That page doesn't say the opposite, it just says that not all T cases are hearing loss related. They go on to explain that some people don't have any difficulty hearing, yet they have T.

      There is a very strong correlation between hearing loss and T. Many researchers believe that T is always a manifestation of something wrong in the auditory system.

      You'll find many research papers and presentations on the internet if you spend a bit of time googling around. Pubmed is a good source.
       
    6. Autumnly
      Wishful

      Autumnly Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise-induced
      I could see how it's not hearing loss alone that causes tinnitus but it still remains a major risk factor nonetheless. Not everyone with hearing loss will develop tinnitus, it's unfortunately still a big mystery why some people with hearing loss develop tinnitus and others don't. However, I wouldn't go as far as to say that hearing loss doesn't play any role in developing tinnitus.

      Maladaptive plasticity in tinnitus-triggers, mechanisms and treatment
      "Tinnitus is a phantom auditory sensation that reduces quality of life for millions worldwide and for which there is no medical cure. Most cases are associated with hearing loss caused by the aging process or noise exposure. Because exposure to loud recreational sound is common among youthful populations, young persons are at increasing risk. Head or neck injuries can also trigger the development of tinnitus, as altered somatosensory input can affect auditory pathways and lead to tinnitus or modulate its intensity. Emotional and attentional state may play a role in tinnitus development and maintenance via top-down mechanisms. Thus, military in combat are particularly at risk due to combined hearing loss, somatosensory system disturbances and emotional stress. Neuroscience research has identified neural changes related to tinnitus that commence at the cochlear nucleus and extend to the auditory cortex and brain regions beyond. Maladaptive neural plasticity appears to underlie these neural changes, as it results in increased spontaneous firing rates and synchrony among neurons in central auditory structures that may generate the phantom percept. This review highlights the links between animal and human studies, including several therapeutic approaches that have been developed, which aim to target the neuroplastic changes underlying tinnitus."
       
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    7. grate_biff
      In pain

      grate_biff Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Moss, Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma using headphones
      For T to develop, I think one need a "dip" in ones hearing. General hearing loss, or presbycusis(age rel. HL) even sever, won´t necessary evoke T, bc it happens over time and the loss tends to even out through your hearing range.

      However, if you were to experience an acoustic trauma(gunshot, misshap using headphones etc.) chances are you will generate a "gap/dip" i.e. a steep decline in your hearing, at a specific range(frequency).

      In my opinion, when this happens, the brain can´t overlook the specific loss of input and thus T and (H might) develop(s). But when it comes to H, I think our outer HC play a bigger part ,resulting in Central Gain in our brains.

      Look at my Avatar!!
      It is my audiogram and bear in mind I have unilateral T. You can see the sharp decline in hearing in my right ear(red) at appr. 10.5-12.5 kHz.
      Even though I have slightly more severe HL in my left ear(blue), it is more evened out and thus I have no T or H in my left ear!

      Seems reasonable?
       
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    8. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Bleep

      Bleep Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      22/03/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Perhaps stress
      But what does this mean then? "Although tinnitus is often associated with hearing loss, it does not cause the loss, nor does a hearing loss cause tinnitus."
       
    9. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      I think it would be clearer if they had stated "nor does a hearing loss NECESSARILY cause tinnitus." - which means there are times when it does, and times when it doesn't. We don't understand yet what makes one go to one set vs the other.
       
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    10. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Bleep

      Bleep Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      22/03/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Perhaps stress
      my bad, i misread it. thanks!
       
    11. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Everyone with "noise induced T" has some degree of hearing loss.
      Just because you pass a standard 8000 hz audiogram at your local audiologist doesn't mean you don't have damage to the auditory nerve.

      Age Doesn't Matter You May Have A Hidden...
       
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    12. MajaC
      Not worthy

      MajaC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      fleeting (2012) Chronic (end 2017)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Birth, hearing loss, hearing trauma
      No necessary. In my case, yes, but I know people who have tinnitus and don't have hearing loss.
       
    13. jeff W

      jeff W Member

      Location:
      nakatomi plaza
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2012
    14. jeff W

      jeff W Member

      Location:
      nakatomi plaza
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2012
      Molyneux's Question - Can It Be Solved?
       
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