Just Had Microsuction Done, for Around 3 Seconds (Told Them to Stop) — Slight Ringing Now?

Discussion in 'Support' started by grotulon, Mar 9, 2017.

    1. grotulon
      Breezy

      grotulon Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2/5/2017
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      Unknown
      Blah blah blah, started hearing a noise in my unaffected ear about a week ago ENT appointment finally came up, and he syringed it with something then started sucking, and it was INSANELY loud, I told him to stop after 3 seconds. Thing is, now i hear kind of an "echo ring" and a ringing when I hear noises from that ear, did I just get hearing loss and tinnitus in my unaffected ear because of this shit?


      I should add, if I plug the ear, the ringing I get from other sounds stops completely, and the noise i was starting to get in that ear before is gone..



      Also, is there a safe way to remove hardened wax without suction? could using ear drops for a week maybe get rid of it?
       
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    2. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I have had microsuction twice with no problems. You should apply olive oil eardrops to the ears 3 times a day for 10 days before the proceedure to soften the earwax. If olive oil isn't used for 10 days before microsuction, there is a risk of making the tinnitus worse. I have also had ear irrigation twice and used olive oil as above and had no problems.
      Michael
       
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      grotulon
      Breezy

      grotulon Member

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      Unknown
      well it's not worse it's just it kind of is sensitive to sound atm, the ear he did it in, this ear doesn't have tinnitus but now it has a ring to external noises, if plugged it goes away. Did those 3 seconds really just fuck my good ear? Or will this one be fixed?
       
    4. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Please wash out your mouth with soap and clean up your bad language there is no need for it! Did you use olive oil for 10 days before the microsuction? If you didn't that is reason you are experiencing the ringing. Hopefully it will calm down. Microsuction is the best and safest method for removing earwax but you must use olive oil first in the manner I have described.
      Michael
       
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      grotulon
      Breezy

      grotulon Member

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      Nope, no olive oil, he did do some sort of irrigation with some liquid before though.
       
    6. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Well, that is the reason why you have the ringing. I have spoken to many people that have had microscution and don't use olive oil for 10 days and sometimes the tinnitus gets worse but usually it will settle back down. Remember, next time, apply olive oil 3 times a day for 10 days in each ear and you will have no problems with microsuction.
      Michael
       
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      grotulon
      Breezy

      grotulon Member

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      I have no clue how this is safer than syringing, it was INSANELY loud! also it seems to have stopped reacting to external sounds. how the heck does micro suction not cause tinnitus in the first place!
       
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    8. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Listen, I have just told you and believe me I know what I'm talking about having had tinnitus for 20 years and being treated by highly skilled ENT doctors. Microscution is the best method of removing earwax especially if a person has tinnitus. However, if the doctor that is doing the microscution isn't skilled enough then they can make tinnitus worse or cause it. I have also had syringing, they now call it ear irrigation which is different from syringing and I had no problems. Again, you should still use olive oil 3x a day for 10 day before microscution or ear irrigation.

      Ear syrining is an old method of removing earwax. Water is sprayed into the ear under pressure. This can make tinnitus worse or even cause it. The modern method of removing earwax is to go to a GP surgery and have ear irrigation to remove earwax. It is much safer than syringing. If a person has tinnitus or there is a build up of earwax which is difficult to remove using ear irrigation. A visit to a hospital to have microsuction is usually recomended. I would not advise anyone to go to a private clinic for microsuction, as sometimes the person doing the proceedure might not be skilled enough. Better to get an ENT doctor to do the microsuction at a hospital.
      Michael
       
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    9. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

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      Europe
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      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      @grotulon @Michael Leigh my SEVERE tinnitus, hyperacusis and hearing loss was caused by an ENT doing microsuction!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd like to add that I had been putting in ear drops for almost 2 weeks prior to the procedure that has severely damaged my hearing. The suction was very loud and squealy! I would not recommend having this treatment unless you know of a VERY experienced and careful ENT. For me, having microsuction done to remove a bit of cerumen in my ears was the WORST decision I have ever made!
       
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    10. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      @Blue28
      I am sorry to hear of the experience that you had with microsuction and the problems that have resulted. Please keep in mind, if the health professioal carrying out the medical procedure isn't competent, then problems can arise as in your case. I have quite severe tinnitus and was also unsure whether to have microsuction. However, my ENT doctor is an Audiovestibular physcian and I had every confidence in her. She has microsuctioned my ears twice and I had no problems. Another ENT doctor microsuctioned my ears and there were no problems.

      I have had ear irrigation three times at my GP surgery, which was carried out by a nurse and everything went well.
      Again, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you, but a build up of earwax needs to be removed and the only way of doing that is by irrigation or microsuction. Both procedures carry risk, especially if the person doing it isn't competent

      All the best
      Michael
       
    11. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

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      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
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      I had no way of knowing he was not competent, he's an ENT doc and I didn't expect that a doctor could perform a standard outpatient procedure with such a lack of care. I naively trusted him. Microsuction is NOT without risk! Beware! Also, not all doctors are careful, not even specialists! My life has been ruined by this ENT/procedure.
       
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    12. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      I fully agree with you. Every medical procedure carries a risk and there is no way you could have known what would have happened. Even though the person that treated you was supposed to be qualified, and rightly should have shown due care and attention, in real life things don't always workout that way.
      All the best
      Michael
       
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    13. Janb

      Janb Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      May 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction
      I have severe tinnitus and hyperacusis which started immediately following my microsuction procedure more than two years ago. My life has changed beyond recognition and the daily pain is excruciating. Is there a collective movement challenging medical negligence regarding this procedure?
       
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    14. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Did you complain of mal practice?

      also hyperacusis is not just one problem, it's a loose term to describe several unclassified poorly understood hearing problems.
       
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    15. JohnAdams
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      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Did the quack even apologize?
       
    16. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      @Janb I am also a victim of this barbaric and extremely dangerous procedure. I have hearing loss, tinnitus, hyperacusis and constant nerve pain after having had microsuction by an ENT just over 3 years ago. Like you, my life is unrecognisable because of this. I tried to complain but I've been branded as "psychologically unstable" by the ENT who did this to me. He accepts no responsibility for his error, and has been backed by his peers when I made a written complaint. Prior to the microsuction I had NEVER had hearing problems, tinnitus, hyperacusis etc. I was not warned of possible complications following this procedure and when I challenged the ENT who did this he claimed that microsuction couldn't possibly cause any of my symptoms. I AM LIVID!!!!!! Unfortunately I would need A LOT of money to take this complaint to court and it seems that Drs are a law unto themselves... @Vicki14 has also been a victim of this dreadful procedure. I would be very interested in helping with any collective movement regarding medical negligence and microsuction.
       
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    17. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
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      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
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    18. Lane

      Lane Member

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      February, 2018
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      Ototoxic Drug
      @Blue28 -- I'm really sorry to hear about what a catastrophic experience microsuction was for you. -- I agree with you that it's absolutely barbaric and extremely dangerous, and I would encourage you to look into taking this to court. If you could convince a legal team your case has merit, they might take it on a contingency basis. Somehow this madness has to stop. -- A similar case can be made for the ridiculous use of fluoroquinolone antibiotics (often made into eardrops), which can cause tinnitus and so much more, leaving people cripples for the rest of their lives, sometimes from taking just a single dose.
       
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    19. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

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      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      Thank you @Lane for your kind words. I contacted a lawyer last year and was told that I would need solid evidence (a hearing test just before/after the procedure... Like who thinks of doing this/expects to have their hearing damaged to this extent from wax removal...) blah blah blah and that it wouldn't be cheap to pursue this. I live in France and I have a feeling that Drs are highly protected here. I feel absolutely sick and cheated at how this ENT procedure has ruined my life, my hearing and my peace. I'm disgusted that doctors get away with this. I feel so angry at the injustice of it all. I have a small daughter and have missed out on so much during her early years because of the damage caused by a careless ENT, it all makes me so sad.
       
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    20. Vicki14
      Panicky

      Vicki14 Member Benefactor

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      Hey @Blue28 I’d love nothing more than for this to be highlighted and for these dangerous risks to be highlighted. I think, unfortunately, in our cases, it was possibly not so much the procedure but the incompetence of health ‘professional’ who carried it out! I should’ve run when he had to get his Receptionist to help him operate the equipment!!! Like you, a decision I very much regret and the injustice makes living with it very difficult and exhausting. Hugs to you all xxx
       
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    21. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      I agree @Vicki14 about the incompetence of certain so called health 'professionals', but I see so many people complaining of ringing in ears etc after having had microsuction done that I really think there's a huge risk element to this procedure :mad: regardless. Unfortunately we had a risky procedure done badly which made things worse! It's high time that the medical profession realise just how dangerous microsuction is!!!
       
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    22. Vicki14
      Panicky

      Vicki14 Member Benefactor

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      @Blue28 Unless it affects them, do you think they’ll honestly give a shit? x
       
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    23. JohnAdams
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      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      This procedure needs to be outlawed ASAP. Where you at ATA, BTA?
       
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    24. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

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      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      Honestly no, not at all. BUT if we're not a thorn in their sides then nothing will change AND I'll still feel a huge sense of injustice.
       
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    25. Vicki14
      Panicky

      Vicki14 Member Benefactor

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      January 2016
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      @BobDigi you only have to read this thread and similar others to see how horrendous MS is!
       
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    26. Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      I lost 60% of my high frequency hearing in both ears after that awful microsuction treatment.

      Plus developed tinnitus and hyperacusis.

      Should be outlawed.
       
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