Lucid Dreaming and Tinnitus

[Sound Wave]

I just read this interesting article about lucid dreaming and it sparked an idea that could one try to control / change T during lucid dreaming. Any lucid dreamers here amongst us?

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/the-ways-to-control-dreaming/360032/

 

[Golly]

I just read this interesting article about lucid dreaming and it sparked an idea that could one try to control / change T during lucid dreaming. Any lucid dreamers here amongst us?

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/the-ways-to-control-dreaming/360032/

@Sound Wave:

I occasionally experience lucid dreams. The thing with me, however, is that my tinnitus vanishes at night. It certainly has never been present in any of my dreams, lucid or otherwise, since I developed tinnitus over three years ago.

-Golly

 

[Ozzy]

Interesting topic. Subconscious mind is an amazing thing. And Lucid Dreaming there must be some sort of interaction between our conscious and subconscious mind. If we can solve this puzzle and if we can find a way to control the subconscious portion of our mind somehow, we may even solve the tinnitus issue permanently.

 

[Grace]

@Sound Wave:

I occasionally experience lucid dreams. The thing with me, however, is that my tinnitus vanishes at night. It certainly has never been present in any of my dreams, lucid or otherwise, since I developed tinnitus over three years ago.

-Golly

Your T like dissapears while your layin in bed at night or while your sleeping? Mine does the same

 

[Golly]

Your T like dissapears while your layin in bed at night or while your sleeping? Mine does the same

@Grace:

Both. Typically when I wake up to go to the bathroom in the early morning, I have no tinnitus at all. It's after I have been standing for a minute that it settles in.

-Golly

 

[Grace]

@Grace:

Both. Typically when I wake up to go to the bathroom in the early morning, I have no tinnitus at all. It's after I have been standing for a minute that it settles in.

-Golly

Woahh thats crazy mine only lasts for like a sec or two then the fuzzyness apears in the bacround again. But yours just proves that something in the body turns it off!

 

[Tamika]

Any lucid dreamers here amongst us?

I realise this is an old thread - but wanted to comment. I've had several lucid dreams recently. I cannot recall having any before., although I was aware and interested in the concept. I've read that the AD mirtazapine can cause 'vivid dreams' and I'm on a small dose at night. I also take melatonin to aid sleep. I'm thinking these may have assisted me in having these experiences. I remember looking around and knowing I was dreaming. I reached down to touch the grass to see if it would feel the same as in real life, and it really did. I was surprised as everything felt so real. And the good news is I didn't have any T.

 

[Eleanor]

I always lucid dream and my t never is present only if it wakes me otherwise I can almost always lucid dream

 

[ChrisJ]

Yes I can lucid dream, I learned as a kid. I have been using it to try and control my T. This morning for example I woke up with it pretty loud and I could get it to turn off by going in to a dream state and trying to hold myself there as long as possible.

After going back and forth a few times I got the tone to change to a lower tone, and it kind of trembled a bit, like a trill in music.

I would highly recommend anyone try lucid dreaming. Just type it in to your favourite search engine. When you sleep your auditory cortex shuts down. You're tinnitus FREE!

 

[nills]

Yes I can lucid dream, I learned as a kid. I have been using it to try and control my T. This morning for example I woke up with it pretty loud and I could get it to turn off by going in to a dream state and trying to hold myself there as long as possible.

After going back and forth a few times I got the tone to change to a lower tone, and it kind of trembled a bit, like a trill in music.

I would highly recommend anyone try lucid dreaming. Just type it in to your favourite search engine. When you sleep your auditory cortex shuts down. You're tinnitus FREE!

I don`t think it shuts down , I hear T in dreams ... and you still need to be aware for sounds to protect yourself ...

 

[ChrisJ]

I don`t think it shuts down , I hear T in dreams ... and you still need to be aware for sounds to protect yourself ...

Ah yes you're right, the plot thickens. I wonder why some of us can hear our T and some not?

I looked at this paper Sensory Responses during Sleep in Primate Primary and Secondary Auditory Cortex and it seems the idea that the Thalamus acts as a gate during sleep has now been disproven. So I was acting on old information. It looks more complicated than that and as you say the brain would have to be aware to protect itself from any threats.

One rule if you have a baby in the house is keep the background sound consistent. Any sudden changes in volume are more likely to wake the baby.

Another strange phenomena from experience is waking up with the radio on and having dreams about the content playing on the radio. Then waking up to realise that you were dreaming about that song or what they were talking about. So clearly it's not either or, there is some discrimination that the brain is making and changing the kind of inputs it's responding too.

 

[threefirefour]

Since this is a place for alternative tinnitus treatments, I decided I would post my best one.

When people dream they don't hear their tinnitus. You may "hear" it, but that's not actually your tinnitus. That's the MEMORY of your tinnitus, like when you get hurt, it's the memory of pain. When I dream I can turn off my tinnitus at will, assuming I even hear it in the dream. I basically never do unless the dream uses tinnitus as a plot point.

I wanted to know if anyone else Lucid dreams here, or has or wants to try. I've been LD for years. Why waste 1/3rd of your life? So I decided to make a general thread for LD and peoples experiences with Dreams and Tinnitus.

Nevermind my thread got deleted again...

 

[Phendran]

I wanted to know if anyone else Lucid dreams here, or has or wants to try.

Before my tinnitus got as loud as it is now, I used to lucid dream every now and then.
Nowadays my mind is in too much disarray.

 

[threefirefour]

Before my tinnitus got as loud as it is now, I used to lucid dream every now and then.
Nowadays my mind is in too much disarray.

Could you do it on demand before?

 

[Phendran]

Could you do it on demand before?

Yes, by sleeping on my back. Aaah, those where the days(nights).

 

[Ray Ertman]

Hi. I have never been involved with a forum so forgive me if i make some mistakes and for your GENTLE assistance i will be grateful ha. I dont know much insofar as the causes of tinnitus but i do as to the effect on lucidity, what lucid dreaming is, and the effect ""T" has upon it. First we must understand our states of consciousness and the cycles per second (basically brainwaves) in which each of them operate. Our conscious mind operates in the Beta(awake) state of consciousness and operate between 12-30 cycles per second. Next we have Alpha which operate at 7.5-12 cycles per second. Alpha is the first dream state we encounter and is the only one of the dream states that we can recall consciously. I liken radio stations to this. Do you know when you turn the radio dial and tune between two stations and you receive transmission with a little of each? This is exactly what is happening with your brain. But understand each level of consciousness has it's own language. The problem one will encounter with this is that we generally try to use the language of our beta and directly translate our first dream state, alpha. Its exactly the same as expecting the two radio stations you are caught in the middle of and expecting the content therein to "Jive" , or make sense. This shouldnt be confused with lucidity. Lucidity is the ability to be CONSCIOUSLY aware AND in control of your actions and outcome in your first level of dreams (alpha). The reason we ,or some of us, remember so much of our dreams is that tinnitus interrupts our normal pattern of sleep and prevents us from entering the deeper dream states of "theta' and 'delta". This is why our dreams are so vivid to us, because the whoosh whoosh prevents us from going into the deeper states which we subsequently have no recollection of . ( just like two radio stations wont hear the content of the other if there is another in the middle. My advice. When in the beta condition , or awake, condition your mind to be LUCID. This is where true lucidity will aid your sleep process. WHEN YOU ARE AWAKE, concentrate, or meditate(its the same thing) on understanding that when you are in the alpha state, to communicate with yourself that the uneasiness you are feeling is not necessary and your fear is only FalseEvidenceAppearingReal. Oh one more thing. Stop trying to analyse your dreams. I dont care how many books have claimed to unlock the secret of the code of dreams! The personal memory bank of experience is so subjective that no one could possibly place a collective label on it with generic diction. So many people, including me at one point, become so entranced and preoccupied with analysing there dreams they forget to live and are paranoid of the conscious. Well i hate to go on and on lol but i hope this reaches the right thread and the right ear. God Bless.

 

[David077]

Hi. I have never been involved with a forum so forgive me if i make some mistakes and for your GENTLE assistance i will be grateful ha. I dont know much insofar as the causes of tinnitus but i do as to the effect on lucidity, what lucid dreaming is, and the effect ""T" has upon it. First we must understand our states of consciousness and the cycles per second (basically brainwaves) in which each of them operate. Our conscious mind operates in the Beta(awake) state of consciousness and operate between 12-30 cycles per second. Next we have Alpha which operate at 7.5-12 cycles per second. Alpha is the first dream state we encounter and is the only one of the dream states that we can recall consciously. I liken radio stations to this. Do you know when you turn the radio dial and tune between two stations and you receive transmission with a little of each? This is exactly what is happening with your brain. But understand each level of consciousness has it's own language. The problem one will encounter with this is that we generally try to use the language of our beta and directly translate our first dream state, alpha. Its exactly the same as expecting the two radio stations you are caught in the middle of and expecting the content therein to "Jive" , or make sense. This shouldnt be confused with lucidity. Lucidity is the ability to be CONSCIOUSLY aware AND in control of your actions and outcome in your first level of dreams (alpha). The reason we ,or some of us, remember so much of our dreams is that tinnitus interrupts our normal pattern of sleep and prevents us from entering the deeper dream states of "theta' and 'delta". This is why our dreams are so vivid to us, because the whoosh whoosh prevents us from going into the deeper states which we subsequently have no recollection of . ( just like two radio stations wont hear the content of the other if there is another in the middle. My advice. When in the beta condition , or awake, condition your mind to be LUCID. This is where true lucidity will aid your sleep process. WHEN YOU ARE AWAKE, concentrate, or meditate(its the same thing) on understanding that when you are in the alpha state, to communicate with yourself that the uneasiness you are feeling is not necessary and your fear is only FalseEvidenceAppearingReal. Oh one more thing. Stop trying to analyse your dreams. I dont care how many books have claimed to unlock the secret of the code of dreams! The personal memory bank of experience is so subjective that no one could possibly place a collective label on it with generic diction. So many people, including me at one point, become so entranced and preoccupied with analysing there dreams they forget to live and are paranoid of the conscious. Well i hate to go on and on lol but i hope this reaches the right thread and the right ear. God Bless.

Very interesting, at the beginning of my T, I thought of a theory that T could have been caused by a failure of some of the phase of sleep.

My T begun after I started to see vivid dreams and to wake up because
nightmares, I think it was psych drugs that caused it, it is well known that psych drugs affect the sleep phases. The good thing, when you stop to take it, the vivid dreams slowly disappearing, but the bed T not to much.

 

[Ray Ertman]

whenever i engaged in any kind of drug use my t actually remissed. T didnt come into play until i came off the drugs. Now this was many years ago but the severity of the t was always the same. But the content of the dreams differed. T for the most part doesnt bother me. I actually find it to be a very interesting aspect of my life lmao. I cant wait to sleep to see what kind of episode and hijinks i get to deal with on a nightly basis. I'm thankful that i wake to have the same outlook for the awake hours. The content of my dreams hasnt bothered me for over 30 yrs(im 50 now) so i am very comfortable with anything they throw at me. When i am sitting quietly in a room by myself is when the t hit me the most and is quite severe, like, it nearly spins my head from side to side on occasion. I think i almost enjoy it hahaha. Anyway thanks for the reply. God Bless. Ok wait David, are you saying that t only happens in your dreams? if so...how do you know its t and not merely the content of your dreams? Im under the impression that t is realized while conscious but "spills over" and affects your dream state, and my understanding of the sleep states takes us to my original post that says the reason why we remember so much of them is that the t doesnt allow us to go into the deeper states, delta and theta, thus remain in alpha for a greater period of time.

 

[Lane]

And Lucid Dreaming there must be some sort of interaction between our conscious and subconscious mind.

I'm inclined to believe lucid dreaming is just another name for an out of the body experience. In other words, lucid dream is real--not "just a dream".

I had a few dreams in the first few weeks of tinnitus where I dreamed about tinnitus, and heard it as well--pretty horrible. Haven't had that kind of dream for a while, and since starting on CBD oil, feel pretty confident they won't be returning. -- We'll see... ​