Noise-Induced Tinnitus. Four Months Now. Scared.

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by MC in NC, Oct 6, 2016.

    1. MC in NC

      MC in NC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Played a loud club show without hearing protection
      Hi,

      My name is Marley, and I'm a DJ in Asheville, NC. On May 28, 2016 I played a three-hour club gig without hearing protection or breaks. Typically I am very safe with my ears - always wearing protection for attending shows (I'm 31 now). But for some reason, that night, I didn't think about it, and everything changed. I remember specifically having a significant threshold shift immediately following the show - diminished hearing sensitivity when I was talking to people and packing up - and have experienced persistent low-level high-pitched tinnitus ever since.

      I had two hearing tests in the wake of the incident: the first showed a pretty severe "notch" in the 4K range in my left ear, which is a signature of noise-induced hearing loss. Fortunately, the second test taken a week later showed a significant improvement in that area. My hearing sensitivity seems to be in decent shape, but the T simply hasn't gone away. My heart aches when I think about the time my audiologist told me I had "exceptional hearing" when I was first tested a few years ago.

      There's not a day that goes by that I don't think about my tinnitus. But I have good days and bad days. I try to recognize and appreciate the stretches of time when I am not bothered by it. I attend bi-weekly therapy that includes mindfulness and CBT, and I meditate daily on my own for 20 minutes. I'm currently taking a multivitamin and B12 supplement and getting more exercise. Last night my T kept me up and I couldn't sleep, and I felt compelled to share my story.

      On my bad days, I dwell on the mistake I made and the threat it presents to my entire being. I would do anything - and I do mean anything - to take it back. Music is my profession, my livelihood and the framework around which I have built my life and my identity for the past 17 years. I'm wondering now if this development means that I need to consider quitting. On my worst days, there's a voice inside that says "you can always kill yourself," and that provides a bit of relief.

      I've read through many success stories here, but it appears that most people with success stories are either young, had their tinnitus show up only recently (< 1 month or so), or had some origin other than noise damage. I'm still in the phase where I am not giving up, but I am starting to feel that there is no hope for me.

      Thank you for taking the time to read through this.

      MC
       
    2. sirokinl

      sirokinl Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      When I stopped caring about my T I could continue living my life. Don't focus too much on it. We probably get a lot more stuff happen to us as we grow older. Don't make a big deal out of it. If music is not for you anymore, find another passion. Don't dwell in the 'what you have lost' but focus on what's still possible. Life is a gift and worth living, even with T.

      Take care man, I'm in your camp. Been having T for about 8 weeks now and visited that dark S place. But there so much to life to enjoy! You will too, as I am already.

      If you want to chat, send me a PM.
       
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    3. Irish

      Irish Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music from nightclub
      Hey @MC in NC.
      I'm sorry to hear that brother.
      Just to share with you a bit, my story, as I think it will help you.
      I'm 44 so a good bit older than you.
      I also normally protect my ears when out in loud places but in the last year or so I began to do it less often, partly on the behest of a couple of single friends, I would help them out when they would chat to girls, etc

      I had the temporary ringing in my ears a few times in the past but it always went away, maximun after a few hours, but this time it was different.
      Even in my slightly inebriated state, I knew this place was bloody loud, crazily loud, (this was last NYE I think) yet I didn't protect my ears and did the social thing, helped out my buddy with talking to some girls, and enjoyed the music while I was there
      After about ten/fifteen minutes in that club(room), I still knew it was crazy loud, but I had 'acclimatised' to it (ie. I had probably flattened many cilia in my ears and sent my ears into shock).
      We left after an hour or so, maybe a bit longer, so I wasn't in the extremely loud environment as long as you, but I was exposed to possibly louder sounds than you were, plus I'm thirteen years older and my ears probably are less able to 'bounce back' than a younger person like you..

      So, I noticed over the next couple of days that things were not right, I had Hyperacusis straight away and the Tinnitus built up over a few days where it became very noticable and high pitched.
      I was stunned, hadn't expected anything like this, as I had always been fine in the past with loud music, but this was one of the loudest music environments I had ever been in, and I had been in there for over an hour with no ear protection.

      The problems began to mount, the H continued and was very shocking at times, I was extremely sensitive to loud noises or high pitched sounds, the T was persistent and horrible at times.
      I also had a full feeling in my left ear and both ears began to get really sensitive and sore.
      I ended up going to the doctor, who told me I had an ear infection, and gave me ear drops and antibiotics and sinus medication.
      It did help to some degree, but the H & T and blocking/fullness were all still there, although lessened a bit.
      I went for an MRI and turns out I had traces of mastoiditis around my left ear but my hearing was fine except for a small drop around the 4K mark, like you.

      I attended an audiologist and ENT consultant to get my ear health checked, turned out my loudness tolerance levels were around the 90dB mark, which is lower than for a healthy person (it's mild, perhaps tending towards moderate Hyperacusis), but they told me that might improve with time.
      But my T & H were still there (and I was getting some horrible T spikes at times) so my doctor put me on more antibiotics and for the first time things began to improve (this was almost end of April).

      My T began to ease and over the next few weeks, it had reduced to a minimum, and my H perhaps reduced by 15% or so.
      I should say as well that I was hitting up loads of supplements during this time, B12 and B complex, Magnesium, Zinc, NAC, somtimes CoQ10, Fish Oil, I took plenty of anti-inflammatory spices(turmeric, ginger), herbal teas like Camomile, Matcha Green Tea.
      I also hit the gym, and would go twice a week, sometimes three times, and used the steam room too.

      I had a few times where the T came back for a day or so, this was usually after a swim(without earplugs, not clever), or after a particularly stressful day.
      But other than that, I've been free from T for a few months now, in fact since about end of April, which is pretty much four months after my problems began.
      Now I still have ear fullness, 'clicking', pressure issues and tenderness particularly in my left ear which could be ETD, TTTS or Patulous Eustachian Tube, might even by Glue Ear.
      I'm not sure, no medical person I've been to so far has been able to give me a definite answer on that.
      It's annoying for sure, and on a bad day it's debillitating and very distracting and I get a bit down, but when I think of where I was a six months ago, I'll take this situation over that one, for sure.
      That said, I'm worried that I might be stuck with it, not a very nice thought.
      My H is still there too, albeit less severe than before, maybe it's about 70% what it was, 75% on a bad day, still markedly better than six or eight months ago.
      But on the plus side, my T is completely gone, and for that I am grateful, as having experienced it first hand, I know just how it affects you.
      So, my point is, it can get better and I think you're doing all the right things to help it to get better.
      I might not be fully cured but my T is completely gone now, so stay strong and positive as best you can.
       
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    4. MikeL1972

      MikeL1972 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      3/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uknown
      Hey Marley,

      Welcome to the club.

      The first thing you should keep in mind is that the body's natural instinct is to try to heal itself of whatever it detects is wrong (fever, paper cut, aches and pains, etc).

      Unfortunately, none of us can go back into history and do things over. If I could, I would have done so many things differently (like most of us would).

      With that said, try to focus on the positive. I've had tinnitus for not too long (just 7 months) and the first two weeks or so, I was beside myself and having some cowardly thoughts. Then, I realized I was being incredibly selfish and even more importantly - weak. The worst part was that I got it by being at the wrong place at the wrong time (suck in traffic when a car with a load motor roared by).

      Here is the tip you need to understand: stop fighting it! Sure, that is a natural response and I fought it for about 2 weeks. I googled into the night for a remedy and when I learned that multi-millionaires like Barbara Streisand, Steve Martin, William Shatner have had it for decades and live with it, so can I. You will get used to it; "habituate" and you will pay less and less attention to it over time. I hear it now as I type this, but it no longer bothers me because I refuse to let it!
       
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      AUTHOR
      MC in NC

      MC in NC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Played a loud club show without hearing protection
      Hi Irish - I deeply appreciate your thoughtful response. It is encouraging to hear a true account of recovery, especially from someone a bit older and with a similar personal story. Thanks for including details about your experience. I haven't seen an ENT - in your opinion, is that advisable? I have a great audiologist and he checked my eardrum health in addition to the standard pure tone audiogram and everything looked OK. I have a clicking jaw as well, but no pain or signs of TMJ.

      Thanks Mike! "Stop fighting it" is a great tip, and a tricky one. I'm still learning how to get there. Ironic that one way to "solve" this problem is to stop trying to solve it. So counterintuitive!
       
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    6. Zug
      Woot

      Zug Member Benefactor

      Dude, 4 months is nothing in "Tinnitus Time". A lot of musicians have Tinnitus and keep playing. You're doing all the right moves. Keep on with CBT, get some really good earplugs, try to take it easy and give it time. ;)
       
    7. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      @MC in NC

      Maybe not what you want to hear but if I were you I'd start looking into different careers away from loud sounds
      The reason why you got t isn't only becuase you did 3 hours wihtout plugs but it's all these years of loud sound especially bass - no well cut by plugs - that slowly but surely damage the ear even with plugs..

      If you protect your ears in a year or two your T may improve significantly but again any exposure to loud sound can actually make it even worse than now and this a a lot faster than in the past.
      Your still young - I'd seriously consider other professional options .. You had a small taste of what Hell can be.. It's now up to you to turn your back
       
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    8. Userhx35543

      Userhx35543 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Machinery and concerts
      I'm 47. Been with T for a long time. From loud power tools ( no ear plugs) to concerts ( without ear plugs ). Now I work around Diesel engines ( with plugs ). Still had mild T for years. Manage to cope. Lately I have joined some of the others in this forum with SSHL and a rather loud case of T in my right ear along with hearing loss. I guess I'm lucky to have dealt with the mild stuff for so long, it bothers me sometimes. Sometimes more than others. I work in sort of a noisy environment, so it is masked most of the say at work.

      The point is, as you have heard from the others, you can learn to live with it. Don't let it beat you.
       
    9. Jomo

      Jomo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      9/4/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      going for a rim shot on the snare drum.
      Your story gives me hope...although mine is from playing the drums i have been doing much better after a month...my hyperacusis went away but my sensitivity to loud sounds is still there...no ear fullness...right now my T is very light but has varied throughout the month....the first week was of course the worse.
       
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    10. MikeL1972

      MikeL1972 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      3/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Uknown
      Jomo, your brain will gradually become used to it and file it into the "not important" folder of your mind. This is the case for the overwhelming majority of people who have it.
       
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      AUTHOR
      MC in NC

      MC in NC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Played a loud club show without hearing protection
      Glad to read the replies, here.

      My current plan is to continue to attempt to live "normally" while being extra-vigilant any time I am exposed to loud sounds. I have a good set of custom musicians' earplugs to wear while I'm DJing, and my audiologist says that as long as I take a few breaks over the course of a long gig (ten minutes every hour, or so) I can perform safely. In the studio, I typically mix at a very low volume already, and I will be setting a timer to take an ear break every hour, especially if I'm using headphones.

      I'll be monitoring my tinnitus closely for the next few months to see if it is getting worse, better or staying the same. I was able to sleep last night, fortunately, and I noticed that the pronounced "tone" ring has now shifted to being predominantly in my right ear. Perhaps this is a good sign? I still have HF "crickets" in both ears, however, and I have a feeling that I might be stuck with that.

      I'll plan on following up with any developments over the next few months. One of the things to remember about this forum is that people typically stop posting when their tinnitus improves or they habituate! Holding on to hope, for now.
       
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    12. Capricornus
      Inspired

      Capricornus Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      @Irish Hi there! How long did it take until you'd noticed that your T was improving? I'm currently 2 weeks since onset (also from clubbing), and it's soooo difficult to compare from day to day. I think that it has gone down in volume, but I still have moments when the T "flares up" so to speak.

      I really hope your H will disappear soon!
       
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    13. Irish

      Irish Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music from nightclub
      Hey, thanks for the good wishes
      My H is still there, although some days it doesn't bother me unduly as am not in loud(or high frequency sound) situations
      The only thing which seems to suppress it noticeably is the day or two after I've been to the gym and steam room, not sure if it's only one or both of these that helps.
      Everything else, including supplements and good sleep seems to only have a minimal effect on it.
      My T began to reduce in volume (and how often it affected me) after about four months.
      Although that said, that fourth month was the worst one I had two horrific spikes and felt very ill on a few occasions, almost like the T had one final go at taking me down, but didn't succeed!
      After another six to eight weeks my T was practically gone.
      I had several rounds of antibiotics too early this year, which may have helped, as I also had an ear infection and possibly mastoiditis too, so these may have contributed to my T.
      I have other stuff going on though with my wars, fullness, clicking and tenderness, not sure if it's glue ear or something else but it's not very pleasant.
      Am starting to listen to white noise daily now and also when I sleep as it seems to have helped a lot of people with T and/or H, will report back after some time has passed to let you know if it's helping.
       
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    14. K.Sarah

      K.Sarah Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure from edm music festival
      I feel the same way.
       
    15. K.Sarah

      K.Sarah Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure from edm music festival
      I also have those moments too and I wonder why.
       
    16. K.Sarah

      K.Sarah Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise exposure from edm music festival
      My tinnitus is noise-induced too. I got it after going to a music festival, being too near to the soundbox and I didn't wear earplugs. To be honest, it sucks having it. I'm 20 and I have got to do a lot of things ahead. Sometimes I feel positive and enjoy the moments. Sometimes I feel so down and upset and depressed and I get angry for making mistake that night. I just have to deal with it and do for the best.

      @Irish your story gives me some hope and thanks for sharing. I have been going through tinnitus for 10 weeks which is almost 3 months and I'm still holding onto the hope that one day it will go away. But sometimes I just lose hope of tinnitus going away. I can hear it when I'm in a quiet room or place or when I pay attention to it. The first week is a disaster, a full-blown loud ringing but after that, it reduced a bit very slowly. Now it's like the sound from the TV.

      Anyway, stay strong.
       
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    17. Adam L

      Adam L Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud sporting event (monster truck show)
      Hi @Irish, was your tone a constant very high pitch? Mine is and going on 3 months now and still have mild H. Ears feel weird and get full. At first I could stick my fingers in my ears, wiggle hem and the tone would disappear and come right back. Then about 2 weeks ago it just switched to a constant high pitch which scares me that’s its permanent. I’m 37 and Just looking for some hope that it will at least decrease in volume or fade away.
       
    18. Irish

      Irish Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music from nightclub
      Hi @Adam L , from what I recall, it was a high pitched sound initially, but gradually it changed from that to a kind of 'bristling/rustling' sound, that's the best way I can describe it, it was there most of the time, although seemed to fade somewhat at night time.
      Then shortly before my T largely disappeared, I got a really bad attack of what I can only describe as the same high pitched stacatto violin type sounds that you can hear in the shower scene from Psycho!
      I'm not kidding, it was absolutely bloody horrible, I was really down on those days when that happened to me, although thankfully it faded away and over the next weeks the T gradually reduced to a barely perceptible whisper, which I still have sometimes, but it's so minor that I barely notice it.
      Incidentally I think this last T spike was caused by overdosing on B vitamin tablets that contained a sweetener (Aspartame I think? not certain), I reckon it was the sweetener that triggered it as I know I have had problems with Aspartame in the past.
      I still have H and what I think is TTTS, it's been pretty bad at times this year, and I've had some difficult days at work as a result, although that said, it seems to have improved a little in recent days.
      I think I have to take the plunge and spend some money on these WIDEX WNGs as I have heard from my hearing specialist the success rates (for improving H and TTTS) are good.
       
    19. Adam L

      Adam L Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud sporting event (monster truck show)
      Thanks Irish. I too have mild H. I can say my tones were not as bad as yours. They were very faint and I initially slept well. The switch to a constant high pitch ring/buzz has got me worried it’s wired into my brain now. I guess time will tell.
       
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    20. Chalx
      Badass

      Chalx Member

      Location:
      Georgia, US
      Tinnitus Since:
      October 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Music and Life
      I have the same issue with the electric crickets along with a ringing/electronic HF pitch that comes and goes depending on how much I focus on it. Sleep is definitely critical to being able to deal emotionally, so if you can get that on track it's a good start. It's amazing how we can ignore buzzing of lights, TV's, and other electronic devices but not this sound...at least not until habituation begins to take place. I always find a spike in tinnitus pain when I'm anxious, which causes more anxiety and it becomes a feedback loop. Breaking your typical pattern of behavior may be good as I feel the mind begins to expect pain and noise due to association of what you do during the day.

      I used to be able to compose/mix before the T and H showed up - do you find that this makes the T worse, or that you can hear enough detail to make correct musical decisions? I have a lot of problem with upper frequencies, so it's like I want to put a LP filter on a track all the way down to 10K or lower haha. So much for a CD by end of year.
       
    21. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      hmm... dead thread resurrected.

      quit shitposting, music is really valuable to almost anyone and things like hearing defecits, tinnitus and noise induced pain do get in the way of it. Thus the sufferer would be better off offing themselve then giving up music and life activites that are meaningful to them.
       
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