Ototech

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by RODRIGO, Dec 31, 2018.

    1. JohnAdams
      Starving

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      here
      Tinnitus Since:
      it started.
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss
      Not everything has to have a trial to be real.
       
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      AUTHOR
      RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
    3. MarkLud

      MarkLud Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise/music/unknown
      Never heard of this before ... Interesting!
       
    4. Zeneth
      Wishful

      Zeneth Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe noise?
      Don't they have a number? Has anybody ever considered calling them. I doubt they monitor this forum and even know about this stuff to be honest, it's ridiculous.
       
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    5. lucy_snow

      lucy_snow Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018.03
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss/ibuprofen
      But are there at least some people with improvement?
       
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      AUTHOR
      RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      37% significant improvement, 25% without tinnitus! Can we trust this?
       
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    7. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      But there is no patient subtyping. Probably 100% noise induced cases are the most difficult to treat.
       
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      AUTHOR
      RODRIGO

      RODRIGO Member

      Location:
      Valencia (Spain)
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      They told me that the cause of tinnitus doesn't matter in terms of benefiting from the treatment.
       
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    9. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      What's the rationale behind that statement? I don't see why it'd be any harder than ototoxicity for example. Can you explain?
       
    10. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      Well... it says the treatment helps irrigation. Maybe it is useful with vascular issues. But if you are fine and only have hearing loss... maybe not so.

      The problem is I don't really believe that it works. It has a super commercial vibe. Sorry. Hope I am wrong!
       
    11. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      Thank for answering but my question wasn't to explain why hearing loss was harder to cure than vascular problems, it was why noise induced hearing loss would be harder than other types of hearing loss such as HL due to ototoxicity, viruses, diseases, etc.
       
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    12. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      Well ... I do not know why I only said "noise induced". Probably it is just hearing loss (all types).

      With subtyping I mean somatic, non somatic, hyperacusis patients, etc
       
    13. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      OK yes that makes more sense.
       
    14. incelitus
      Question it

      incelitus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      qtip gangbang/kurt cobain
      yeah i mean this is a red flag if i've ever seen one
      they could at least try to get a bit of science behind it and admit that even if it might work for everyone you'll have different likelyhood of success depending on your type of tinnitus which is what seems the most logical
       
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    15. drivera2592
      Nerdy

      drivera2592 Member

      Location:
      Garden Grove CA
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Concert
      I contacted Manel via instagram and he says the treatment didnt work for him. I dont know if I trust this company.



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    16. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      He actually claims it got worse.
       
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    17. Bart
      Doh

      Bart Member

      Location:
      Antwerp
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/06/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      2014 Noise / 2018 ototoxic meds
      From my point of view it should not matter if it is caused by a virus, noise or meds, hearing loss is hearing loss no matter what initially caused it .

      But I think this is just smoke and mirrors , like the Brain clinic, it simply does not work or it would be well known and offered as treatment worldwide .
       
    18. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      It does matter actually.

      If you have conductive hearing loss for example, you can sometimes have surgery to fix it. Otosclerosis is an example of that: if you have hearing loss due to otosclerosis, you do have options to not only regain your hearing, but also silence your T (if you suffer from it).

      For sensorineural losses, there is a reasonable chance that it does matter too: if it's your hair cells that are damaged, then treatments that focus on regenerating them are probably more applicable than if it's your synaptic connections that are damaged.
       
    19. lucy_snow

      lucy_snow Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018.03
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss/ibuprofen
      Ok then, maybe you can explain me this, how does one know what is damaged (if one has some sensorineural hearing loss): hair cells, synaptic connections or the hearing nerve itself?
       
    20. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      It's actually quite difficult. It's not like we can open up your cochlea and take a look. Well, we could, but you wouldn't like that. We reserve this to dead people/animals.

      So we do tests that are somewhat a proxy, with various degrees of accuracy. For example, OAE tests are used to measure the "health" of outer hair cells. Speech in noise tests are supposed to detect issues with the hearing nerve (perhaps synaptopathy)... it's all very primitive.

      Determining conductive vs sensorineural is fairly accurate, however (Webber/Rinne fork tests, bone conduction audiometry).
       
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