Poll: How Many People Have Gaze-Evoked Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Zugzug, May 11, 2020.

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Do you have gaze-evoked tinnitus?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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    1. Zugzug

      Zugzug Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown; Likely autoimmune; Certainly not noise-induced
      In today's episode of trying to figure out my problem, I decided to lean in on one of my symptoms: gaze-evoked tinnitus. For a while, I didn't think it was abnormal given the circumstances: I have severe tinnitus and hyperacusis; it shouldn't be shocking that little things make it worse.

      But after some googling, I found out that it's pretty rare. Moreover, in the search engine on Tinnitus Talk, I only found one thread on it (https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...-eye-exercises-for-ringing-of-the-ears.29234/).

      It's especially interesting to me since my first symptom (along with the tinnitus and hyperacusis) was severe balance problems. To be clear, I don't know if my problem is my hair cells, synapses, audio vestibular nerve, DCN, IC, etc. My problem was not caused by noise, but rather a chronic illness.

      TLDR: I am posting a poll here. How many people have gaze-evoked tinnitus (in addition to normal tinnitus)? By that, I mean with your head stationary and only moving your eyes from side to side or up and down the tinnitus pulses (it's obvious if you have it, like a zapping sensation).
       
    2. James1977
      No Mood

      James1977 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/19/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      IMAX Movie
      My tinnitus specialist told me about a case like that during our first meeting. Claimed he also had someone that said moving their index finger did it too.
       
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    3. Backpacker

      Backpacker Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL
      Have you ever googled types of third window syndrome? There are several types. Some SCCD patients reported hearing their eye movements (and/or other sounds) I am not sure what it should sound like, if it's "pulsing" or "zapping" or other sounds, I just remember some of third window syndrome patients could hear their eye movements but I guess it depends on where the dehiscence is.
       
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    4. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      temporarily banished from this plane of existence.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      The muscles that control the eye are innervated by the sixth cranial nerve, which gets pretty close to the TM junction. It's quite common that muscle activity in this area can seem to modulate tinnitus; something like 80% of tinnitus patients can do it with head or neck movements.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abducens_nerve
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      As not a doctor I have always assumed gaze-evoked tinnitus is just a somewhat unusual kind of somatic tinnitus; it's still just somatosensory data being turned into audio.
       
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      Zugzug

      Zugzug Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown; Likely autoimmune; Certainly not noise-induced
      Thanks for the reply! I've looked into superior canal dehiscence. Unfortunately, this isn't exactly what I have going on. I can't hear my eyes moving or anything like that. It's more like, I have normal, constant tinnitus, but if I move my eyes, there's a short, few second spike in the tinnitus -- like some sort of a calculation is being made in my inner ear. The noise is tinnitus, not my eyes.
       
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      AUTHOR
      Zugzug

      Zugzug Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown; Likely autoimmune; Certainly not noise-induced
      Thanks so much for that helpful information. Yeah, much like you, I didn't think much of it because it seemed reasonable to me that little movements could trigger tinnitus. What really caught my eye (no pun intended) was the fact that it occurs with just eye movement, with a stationary head -- meaning it's not just some small movement in blood flow from moving my head, but actual information from changing my vision. This is consistent with the balance problems I have had at the beginning.
       
    7. Juan

      Juan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      Interesting. So is it due to nerves being touched by the TM or by other nerve?
       
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    8. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      temporarily banished from this plane of existence.
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      This video does a good job of explaining the theory behind it, at a level of scientific detail I cannot even understand in some places because I don't understand how spike-timing dependent plasticity really works mechanically, but, even so, found this very interesting:

      "The Neural Bases and Neuroengineering of...


      This research is the basis of the bimodal stimulation treatment being developed at the University of Michigan, which works along similar lines to Leniere.
       
    9. ASilverLight
      In pain

      ASilverLight Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      That's the question.
      I tried this a few times. Rolling my eyes all the way up increases one of my tones. My tinnitus is likely a combination of chronic congestion issues and neck trauma/injury/after years of bad posture.
       
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    10. Shaqz

      Shaqz Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/10/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hey @Backpacker how are you holding up with the low frequency tinnitus?
       

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