South Korean Clinic Treatment (Dr. Minbo Shim)

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by vaka, Nov 19, 2016.

    1. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      If I could increase 10 decibels per frequency, I would be happy. Dr. Shim said it will likely take 2 months for the regenerative medicine to work so I will not know for about 2 months.
       
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    2. Rafaa

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      You may have missed this post in the other thread but would appreciate a response to this:

      "Good luck. Do you have any middle ear issues? Like pain, fullness, change in hearing, internal sounds etc? Would be interested to see if the PRP can have local healing to middle ear muscles, eardrum, and local mucosa."
       
    3. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Only conductive losses due to the fluid in my middle ear. After every treatment my hearing worsens due to the injections.
       
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    4. Rafaa

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      Is that the treatment fluid or mucus due to Eustachian tube problems before the treatment?

      My question was about your ear issues before starting treatment, if that makes sense. I think I saw a post of yours where you said you had middle ear exploration and that damaged your eardrum but I assume that's all resolved now?
       
    5. scotty03874

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      No ETD. The fluid is from the injections, it sloshes around in there for like 4 - 5 days. I had an acoustic trauma to my left ear (better hearing ear), my right ear us undergoing another middle ear exploration on 8/5. They suspect I have ossicular discontinuity as I have huge conductive losses in my right ear plus a very flaccid/floppy eardrum.
       
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    6. Travis Henry
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      1 Moderna Vac, Noise and stress I guess, its killing me
      Praying this works so I can go get it done too.
       
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    7. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Me too. I'll keep you all posted...
       
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    8. Travis Henry
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      Platelet Rich Plasma Injections

      Found another thread with people that benefited from PRP. I am praying so hard because I am being driven insane by my highly reactive tinnitus.
       
    9. Vincent R
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      This being Dr. Shim and TS I presume. Cool pic.

      Regenerative therapies, in practical terms Dr. Shim and/or StemCells21, are the only kind of treatments that have a record of actually bringing results. Dr. Shim's injections, judging from @JohnAdams's experience, are heavy artillery. It would be major news if TS also gets relief. Especially since the treatment now is made available in the US.

      We'll know in a couple of months... :nailbiting:

      The best of luck to TS.
       
    10. Travis Henry
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      Any word on the other 40 ENT doctors he's trained? There has to be one in Dallas Fort Worth area that can do it!
       
    11. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Yup, we will.
      I'll find out...
       
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    12. Rafaa

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      Hopefully the fluid lasting there for all those days allows the healing properties to disburse fully where needed. I wonder if he could use a gel in the future as a way to improve patient experience as in this study. It would help the annoying sloshing problem:

      Role of Platelet Rich Plasma in Tympanoplasty

      Hope it works for you. I am looking for some treatment for seemingly increased internal sounds threshold that is made worse with stress, exertion. (neck movements, pulse, voice etc). I experience pain when I get a tympanometry test in the problem ear despite good pressure values. Leading me to conclude that I have some damage in the middle ear so this is why I'm interested in this. I sympathise with you as in my experience structural, physical issues with the middle ear and their symptoms is worse than tinnitus.
       
    13. scotty03874

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      Yah defffffff no gel on the bone marrow injections or the PRP either. But he uses some activating agent that stings like hell...
       
    14. Travis Henry
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      An email I got back.

      Screenshot_20220708-054204_Gmail.jpg
       
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    15. spedgas
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      Interesting, I only live a few hours from Seattle. I’m not convinced this treatment works though.
       
    16. Chinmoku

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      Someone whose email name is "holy mary" doesn't sound encouraging. It's not "Hail Mary" but still, sounds like say your prayers.

      Just kidding. The problems with PRP are others and have been discussed elsewhere. I hope it works for all who are trying. John Adams had good results with it, which is encouraging.
       
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    17. GregCA
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      I don't recall him posting any improvements.

      IIRC, he acknowledged that there wasn't any tangible benefits at the end of the long treatment (when looking at audiograms).

      Could be remembering incorrectly - been a while.
       
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    18. Chinmoku

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      It looks like he made several claims, I seem to recall him saying he was helped at some point, but you may be right, he might have rectified it later. I don't have the strength to go and re-read the whole topic, or to do much else for that matter. I'm still in full survival mode.
       
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    19. vttbx

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      Does anyone know who the doctor is in Seattle?
       
    20. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Yes, he was trained in Sarasota, I met him. Email Shim, he has his info...
       
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    21. Vincent R
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      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/solsaem-clinic-dr-minbo-shim-experience.33543/page-59
       
    22. Chinmoku

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    23. GregCA
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      Thanks for the quotes...

      Here are a few more that could have been included:

      (About the "Tinnitus Mix") - "It's free and certainly worth a try before jet setting to another country for a very expensive and unguaranteed set of invasive surgical procedures." (#2015)

      "Don't just up and go. I'm not so sure if my improvements are from using neurotrophics and curcumin, or this, or both." (#1680)

      "I can't even agree that my improvements were due to the treatment." (#2132)

      And finally, from your own quotes:

      "If anyone wants to have this treatment, then go for it. I experienced improvement. Glenn did not. Neither of us showed any improvement on our audiograms. Which it really should have."

      Treatments that yield non-measurable improvements don't rate super high on my confidence scale, I'm afraid.
       
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    24. Vincent R
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      JohnAdams was clearly bullish on the treatment after having completed it, but the results from Tinnitus Talk members who tried it is so far inconclusive.

      I will now make an effort not to lurk this thread until the beginning of September, when we should have the early results from @scotty03874's treatment.
       
    25. scotty03874

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      Vincent, you indicated you also had this treatment. Could you expound a little bit more please? And of course I'll update the forum in the upcoming months.
       
    26. Vincent R
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      No, that's a misunderstanding. I have not done any regenerative therapy to date. I am presently in the phase of saving up the money for it.
       
    27. James Connelly

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      Hi mate. Any improvements or changes yet?
       
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    28. scotty03874

      scotty03874 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      None yet. It's only been two and a half weeks. Dr. Shim said it will probably take at least two months or longer to see any results.
       
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    29. James Connelly

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    30. SmallRonnie
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      Says it also involves a cochlear implant. Maybe you could ask to get the PRP alone though.

      What is a cochlear implant like in regards to tinnitus and hyperacusis? I don't like the idea of it at all myself since it removes the option of potentially getting something like FX-322 in the future.
       
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