The Intakt Project in Germany Is Developing Systems to Treat Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Research News' started by Gb3, Apr 14, 2022.

    1. Gb3

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    2. EDDTEKK

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      Could you find out how they want to place the chips? Can we ask if we can participate in the study? I am from Germany.
       
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    3. Padraigh Griffin

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      Amazing stuff but I can't help but think that Neuralink will be the dominant force in this area (including tinnitus) as the sheer amount of capital available to the company is practically unlimited.

      It's great to see this tech moving forward. This is the cure. Everything else before it will be a treatment.

      All imho of course :)
       
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    4. Bruce NH USA

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      This sounds interesting. How long would it take to get this to market, in your opinion? If it's successfully marketed in the EU, I wonder how long the FDA would drag their feet on getting this approved in the States...
       
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      Gb3

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      You’d prolly have a better chance of finding that out. I’m not German.
       
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      Gb3

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      I agree. The one problem with Neuralink is the FDA and the weird hatred for Elon.
       
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    7. reggie green
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      I am writing an email to them. What other questions can I ask?
       
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      How close are they to human clinical trials?
       
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    9. EDDTEKK

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    10. Sugar_Boy
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      Someone tried it?
       
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    11. EDDTEKK

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      I wrote an email to that person but haven’t received any feedback. I think he will not reply. Probably someone else could try as well?
       
    12. InNeedOfHelp

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    13. Nick47

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      @InNeedOfHelp, interesting. Do you think this will help in the case of high frequency severe hearing loss? If it's extra cochlear and doesn't stimulate the auditory nerve, I struggle to see how, although maybe I misunderstand.
       
    14. DimLeb

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      I read the part about tinnitus in that article and it indeed sounds promising. I would love to read about the science behind it or if they did any trials on the cochlea microchips.
       
    15. Nick47

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      "An application has already been submitted to the BMBF for funding for a follow-up study. Hearing implant expert Olze is confident that both will work. But she cannot promise a quick solution for those affected. It will certainly take another ten years before such a complex micro-implant is ready for the market - provided the follow-up studies go as smoothly as the first two proof-of-concept studies. "Our patients are suffering a lot," emphasises Heidi Olze, "and of course we very much hope that we can bring our project to a successful conclusion."​

      Written in August 2021.
       
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    16. InNeedOfHelp

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      I don't know. I did read the first trial results of 6 patients. Only 2 were helped and 1 worsened.

      But the first trial was to determine the parameters and settings so I guess it makes sense.
       
    17. BadNeighbors
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      Ignoring the work needed develop these devices, does stimulating the cochlea work to reduce tinnitus even temporarily?

      It'd be amazing if we were at a point where someone actually knows how to reduce tinnitus, but they just need to create a small device that can do the necessary work.
       
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    18. Nick47

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      @BadNeighbors, yes, there have been a few studies of this nature in humans. Plus Cochlear Implants often reduce tinnitus. This is where the idea came from.
       
    19. UKBloke
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      I think some of the work Hamid Djalilian is involved in has shown this to be the case, however, it clearly needs refinement as there were weird side-effects in some patients.
       
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    20. Jonno02
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      Would this be the mechanism behind residual inhibition after you play the same frequency as your tinnitus? Or am I way off base?
       
    21. Nick47

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      @Jonno02, not way off at all. This method just gets a better response as it's inside the ear, near the cochlea. Both increase electrical transmission down the auditory nerve.
       
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    22. duesseldorf

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      So interesting. I'm from Germany as well so I will closely follow the progress.
       
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    23. Nick47

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    24. Fields
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      I hadn't heard of this before. It could be of interest since I'm close to Germany.

      It's a shame that there hasn't been any recent news (the article above is dated May 2023).
       
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    25. Nick47

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      In August 2021, the lead researcher said 10 years.
       
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