The Link Between the Liver and Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by luckyman316, May 9, 2014.

    1. luckyman316

      luckyman316 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      Anyone kno if there is link between the two? I've been told there might be, especiall with a sick liver (which I have) so curious to know if it's true or a myth...
       
    2. Mr. Cartman
      Artistic

      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Not sure about the liver, but I do know a girl that says she got T from kidney stones. Once the kidney stones were taken care of, her T resolved.
       
    3. Penelope33
      Torn

      Penelope33 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      October 2013
      Tinnitus really is that crazy isn't it.
       
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    4. Mr. Cartman
      Artistic

      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Norway
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      12/2013
      Yeah.. I wish mine came with a mute button!
       
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    5. Hudson
      Cowboy

      Hudson Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      As always, correlation does not equal causation. I honestly doubt that it is. The liver is tasked with breaking down fats and some toxins. I think a lot more people would have tinnitus than they already do if that is the case. Many things can cause your liver to be "overworked": being overweight, drinking too much, too much ibuprofen (which we know certain painkillers can cause tinnitus), hepatitis, etc.
       
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      luckyman316

      luckyman316 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2013
      Well, here is one thing I discovered online and there's a few more out there that say liver issues, among other things, can cause it:

      http://www.nosesinus.com/Clinical-Services/noise-in-the-ear-tinnitus

      "Conditions like anemia, diabetes, hypertension, abnormal lipid profile, high cholesterol level, kidney failure and liver problems can cause tinnitus by poisoning the inner ear with toxins and depriving it of a healthy blood supply"

      I find this interesting and as soon as I had my liver issues (I'll be honest, Hepatitis) I started to get inner ear issues which eventually led into tinnitus. I'm on treatment for it so it will be interesting to see if it reduces or goes away as the virus diminishes. I've noticed some reductions some days the past week.
       
    7. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      Chinese medicine and acupunture seem to think T and liver are connected if I remember correctly...
       
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      luckyman316

      luckyman316 Member

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      09/2013
      Lovely :confused::mad:
       
    9. Hudson
      Cowboy

      Hudson Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      No need to feel ashamed of a health issue here. We all clearly have some sort of health issue or we probably wouldn't be here! :)

      I could possibly see the link. However, I would caution that if a person's auditory system is being affected by toxins in the blood, I imagine that other systems within the body are as well.
       
    10. Drecul
      Balanced

      Drecul Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2012
      I have heard of the liver connection. Hearing loss as a cause alone sounds strange to me since not all people with hearing loss develop T.
       
    11. Mad maggot
      Breezy

      Mad maggot Member

      Location:
      New zealand
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Your toe is connected to your leg which connects to your hip and so on up to your head so that indeed your toe is joined to your ear..... And the liver is what rids your body of toxins so if it's not working properly your body is full of toxins. Toxins can cause T. So many possibles! Can we rule anything out completely?
       
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    12. Fairy
      Cool

      Fairy Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Do I think it is link to the liver? No.
       
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    13. Fairy
      Cool

      Fairy Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      If you got bad liver, are you drinking, eating high fat, I don't either of these. What causes this crap?
       
    14. Mettafort
      Balanced

      Mettafort Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Illinois
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 8th, 2017 (a few days after)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Vertigo->48 hours->Deaf in left Ear->Tinnitus
      The eating high fat has to be predicated on other things. Its a known, well debunked truth that high fat is really the issue in many health maladies; its carbs and inflammation. I mention this becuase fatty liver syndrome developed not from alcoholism, can be treated with anti-inflammatory diets, which ironically are higher in fat. Glyconeogenesis occurs in the liver, due to non-carbohydrate nutrition pathway, creating the environment in the liver for lipid storage. That is, eat a high protein diet, and you get a negative effect in the liver, just as if you ate carbs, resulting in insulin spikes and fat storage.

      Eating high fat, with carbs n protein = not good. Eating high fat with a controlled intake of protein and carbs, is a healthy diet that is highliy anti-inflammatory; which i would say is a good thing. Modern old agae makadies such as altziemers, are fairly agreed on by cutting edge science as being inflammation based in most cases, and is classified as type-3 diabetes.

      Being overweight with a diet that is not smart, has high fat, protein and carbs, will basically kill you. The irony is the fat will most likely reverse that whole process, because the original hypothesis that saturated fat was bad was decreed by a failing moronic scientist who did not know what the void was he found himself in with respect to values and ethics - he fabricated data to prove an hypothesis, rather than create an hypothesis from legit data. Its the biggest life of the modern era.

      The guy on the left - Ancel Keys, is the guy who failed the ethics test: https://healthimpactnews.com/2014/time-magazine-we-were-wrong-about-saturated-fats/

      Interesting reading: http://www.inflammationresearchfoun...n-details/time-cellular-inflammation-article/

      All that to say, dont cast fat out...its a pathway to a reduction in inflammation, WHICH could be helpful for some T comrades...

      No offense intended. Its a great discussion.

      Metta,

      Mf
       
    15. Alue
      No Mood

      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      LOL I was about to respond to TS until I realized this thread was three years old.
       

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